Best of the Letters From 2019
I Find Your Website Super Interesting and Helpful:
January 13, 2019
I’m a child born into the PCG, and my mother recently told me about your website. I find it to be super interesting, and helpful. It’d be super awesome if you could get back to me soon. Thanks. –Child survivor of PCG
PCG Northeast Fruit Sales and New Radio Show:
January 26, 2019
PCG Northeast has been boasting that they made $100,000 this year from their fruit sales in comparison to $84,000 last year and they sent a letter attached with a check to Flurry. Also they were promoting Grant Turgeon’s new radio show Behind the Work that first aired on November 29, 2018 on KPCG. — Anonymous
Comment: Grant Turgeon is the son of Wayne Turgeon.
“That Prophet” (Gerald Flurry) Really Needed That Corporate Jet:
February 4, 2019
An article in February’s Philadelphia Trumpet is about the Personal Appearance Campaigns that Gerald Flurry and his son [Stephen] have been doing recently. On page 6, we’re told that the PCG’s corporate jet, bought in 2017, is “largely to enable [Gerald Flurry] to meet more supporters of the Trumpet and to restart the Personal Appearance Campaigns.” More are to take place this year.
But why does Flurry have to buy a corporate jet simply to travel around North American cities? Jesus only had to walk around what is now Israel, but He must have instructed “God’s end-time Elijah” (and his successors) to arrive looking like the CEOs of multinational companies or the rulers of great nations. Some of the contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination will crisscross the country in rented coaches, while “That Prophet” flies past them in his “corporate jet.” –D. K.
PCG Blames Their Website Troubles on Flurry’s Future Visit to Jerusalem:
February 18, 2019
So apparently PCOG believes all the problems with their websites being down and recent power outage is due to G. Flurry’s future visit to Jerusalem February 21 as it must be a very important one. –Anonymous
Gerald Flurry Doing Unusual Stuff Lately:
April 1, 2019
Gerald Flurry has been doing some unusual stuff lately, from sporting a beard (he looks old enough already without the beard; he’s starting to show his age, and he’s not aging well) to calling for a fast on a Sabbath–which hypes the urgency of it–because of money being “scarce” (no doubt money is “scarce” because of his “high maintenance” personal jet) and wanting to build another “college” in Jerusalem. He’s really milking the members for everything he can get, using whatever means he can. I can’t imagine too many people wanting to stay in the PCG. –S. N.
Comment: HWA didn’t age well either but you will still find sites and booklets staging a “younger” Armstrong, trying to make him good looking. On the other hand, it’s hard to find younger pictures of GF online. Maybe that comes after they pass on.
Amazed by Those Who Continue to Believe What False Ministers Have Taught Them:
April 10, 2019
At this time of the year I am always amazed at those people who left, or were disfellowshipped from the WCG/PCG/COG’s, and annually perform all the rituals of cleaning out the house, searching for the last crumb of leaven as instructed by HWA and GF.
Once they leave they continue to believe all they were taught by these false ministers, crucifying Christ again every year and are unaware that Christ was a once off final sacrifice for the forgiveness of all their sins. The giving of the Holy Spirit as promised by Christ has also come and Christians are led by the Holy Spirit.
How they can believe anything that GF teaches at this time of their lives is astonishing. –Ex WCG and PCG
Assyria is Germany?
April 30, 2019
Below is a quote from a website I found when searching for the word “Assyria”:
“Assyrian Christians — often simply referred to as Assyrians — are an ethnic minority group whose origins lie in the Assyrian Empire, a major power in the ancient Middle East. Most of the world’s 2-4 million Assyrians live around their traditional homeland, which comprises parts of northern Iraq, Syria, Turkey and Iran.”
A man and his single daughter were of this ethnic minority group called Assyrians and became members of the PCG in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia quite some years ago. When other members of the congregation asked them what nationality they were, they would correctly reply “Assyrian.” The late minister Max Rumler would interject with “You can’t be Assyrian. Assyria is Germany!” –Impacted by PCG
Comment: Read ESN article: The Origins of Assyria and Germany.
PCG Has Lost Many Members in Florida:
May 2, 2019
PCG tends to meet in fairly large cities, and members are driving further and further. They have combined several congregations (as the membership shrinks), and try to have a minister with the larger groups every week. My understanding is that sermons are sent to the leading person in an area to an electronic device. Once the message is played, it disintegrates. –Former member of PCG [name removed]
More on Gerald Flurry’s Health:
May 15, 2019
The news is that GF has an ulcer on his leg which requires him to keep his leg elevated whenever possible. He also sits behind a desk at his speaking engagements. –[name withheld]
Dustin Nice Died:
May 21, 2019
Dustin Nice age 26 died in Greenville/Taylors, South Carolina on April 20th. He is the youngest child of Greg and Desi Nice. He leaves his wife Whitney, in-laws, brothers, and extended family. Dustin passed from metastatic colon cancer that had moved to the abdominal lining. Limited treatment was available. –Gail Nice Inglima
Flurry Probably Receiving Top Notch Care:
June 6, 2019
I would not be surprised at all if Flurry is receiving top-notch care to keep himself alive while his faithful followers die like flies, afraid to seek medical care for fear of not sending that money to him and his cause. Of course, they wouldn’t let anybody know he is getting care.
I really wish this whole thing would just collapse so everyone involved will be released from the tyranny of Flurry and his minions. I pray for that day. God bless you for your site and everyone that it has helped including me. –S. J.
Wondered if Anyone Else Had Experienced the Back Stabbing That I Saw in PCG:
June 9, 2019
Hello. I just found your site today and I want to thank you for making it a public site. I was a member of the PCG for more than a decade and I can totally relate to much of what was written and even cried a little. I was always wondering if any one else had experienced some of the back stabbing B.S. that I saw taking place in the PCG. The article by Kieren Underwood about HWAC college [Life at Herbert W. Armstrong College] was the best. He gets it. He saw the best and the worst there, I guarantee.Thanks again. I have a son who went to HWAC and got a job at the PCG HQ and turned into the most arrogant little ass on planet earth. Thanks a lot PCG ministers…..Great job.
I will keep reading and would love to add an experience or two on your timeline. Thanks again. –[name withheld] –[name withheld]
Daniel Cohran Has His Own PCG Splinter Group:
June 11, 2019
I wanted to write to you regarding this man (Daniel Cohran, Hold Fast 2 All Things). Not sure if you know much about him.
He is a deacon who conducts himself as a “super” deacon and is incredibly arrogant. He performs all kinds of ministerial functions.
He gives a lot of the sermons, collects monies, has his own feast site, counsels and baptizes people, and even disfellowships them if he believes they have gone astray. I am guessing that he anoints them too. And who knows what else?
He claims to follow all HWA taught. Yes, here is another one. He is a former PCG member, and has been involved with at least one other PCG splinter [Church of God’s Faithful, founded by Robert G. Ardis]. He has had his own organization for several years. Most of his members are ex-PCG. I’ve listened to, and read some things on his website. I don’t know how he can “judge” the ministry as all having gone astray. He’s not even a minister. And has no authority from God to do so. He is usurping authority! He is not even following HWA’s version of church government from the top down. He doesn’t know each minister personally. He is measuring them using HWA’s standards, and teachings, and not Jesus Christ’s.
This is a major error that many “ministers” and members have done. I know because I have done it myself. I sure hope that many who are with this false leader wake-up! –Former member of PCG and RCG
Flurry Determined to Make it to His FL Campaign Despite Jet Problems:
June 13, 2019
Recently, Flurry’s plane on its way to a “campaign” in Tampa, FL, had a malfunction in the motor operating the wing flaps so returned to Oklahoma City airport. They departed once again, but again had to return to Oklahoma City airport! Flurry was determined to get to Tampa to give his lecture no matter what.
Well, “luckily” for Flurry, there just happened to be a small charter plane available at another airport close by, which was a much smaller jet. Flurry managed to give his lecture after it was postponed for half an hour.
PCG claimed that miraculously the PCG pilots found the small charter plane which just happened to be available! If God was truly with the PCG, then they wouldn’t have had the problems with the motor in their plane in the first place!
I wish that the people who attend these lectures would first check out what the PCG is really all about, destroying families, no medicines, etc. — Impacted by PCG
Comment: Gerald Flurry spoke on the book of Hebrews in two 75-min lectures for 187 Trumpet subscribers the first day and 120 subscribers the second night. However, in the first lecture, (which was accompanied by heavy rain and flooding) only 4 non members attended and in the second lecture, there were 10 non-members attending. (The rest must have been PCG members.) Read: Flurry Claims New Revelation About Book of Hebrews (February 21, 2017 letter to ESN).
Feast Sites for 2019:
June 28, 2019
The Feast sites for 2019 are:
Edmond, Oklahoma (headquarters)
Lake Geneva, Wisconsin
Indian Wells, California
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada
Invermere, British Columbia, Canada
Mount Irvine, Tobago
Henley-in-Arden, United Kingdom
Buffelspoort, Republic of South Africa
Tweed Heads, Australia
Baguio City, Philippines
Gerald Flurry’s New Throne of David
July 1, 2019
So…about Gerald Flurry’s “New Throne of David” idea. Well now. I’m totally confused because in the United States and Britain in Prophecy book, HWA says David’s throne is overturned (transferred) only 3 times and won’t be overturned again until Christ’s second coming when God Himself gives David’s throne to Christ. HWA uses Ezekiel 21:25-27 as the Bible verse proof. And on pages 86-102 of United States and Britain in Prophecy (copyright 1980 WCG), HWA shows that God transferred (overturned) David’s throne only 3 times from Zedekiah’s line to Ireland (first overturn), then to Scotland (second overturn), then to England (third and final overturn).
If David’s throne was moved again, that would be overturn #4…and Ezekiel 21:27 says that, after 3 overturns, God won’t move David’s throne again until Christ’s Second Coming when God Himself gives David’s throne to Jesus Christ. I smell a rat.–G. T.
Flurry’s “Prophecy” Might Shake Certain Members’ Faith in Him:
August 2, 2019
If GF’s “prophecy” in January 2017 about President Trump fails (see January 24, 2017 starting with “Gerald Flurry has prophesied”), it might shake certain members’ faith in GF. He has “prophesied” that Trump will be re-elected and will force the members of the PCG to be deported to Jerusalem, and will also be assassinated in his second term. –T. H.
August 9, 2019
Hello to all the people at Exit and support Network™.
I came into the PCG in June of 1996 under Wilbur Malone, Dennis Leap and Cal Craven. I attended the Columbus and Cincinnati congregations for Sabbath and Holy Days. On the Sabbath on January 18, 1997, I remember hearing a Gerald Flurry sermon on cassette (this was before DVDs were used) where old Gerald prophesied that the Black Gentiles (his words) would rise up and riot against the White Israelite’s of the USA because of Bill Cosby’s son who was killed on HWA’s death anniversary 3 days before on Jan. 16. 1997 by a White assailant. He said this would culminate in race riots in the major cities. Of course none of this transpired at the time and I filed it under a “delayed prophecy” that would eventually come true like all the other false prophesies of HWA that were just waiting to be fulfilled.
I write this because of GF’s latest false “prophecy” of D. Trump being re-elected and deporting all of the PCG members and then being assassinated. Gerald Flurry is a con man and a fraud and is only out to steal his gullible members’ tithe and offering money. He cannot back up anything he predicts. Jeane Dixon had a better record of predicting the future than old brother Gerry ever did.
I was just wondering if any of your long time members remember this bogus Bill Cosby prophecy of times past. All of the cassettes have been destroyed like any good cult would do to cover itself.
I am in contact with one retired person in the PCG that still attends services. From what I have been told the congregations are split between the die hard Flurryites and those who are finding brother Gerry’s new Revelations hard to take. Most stay in because of family members, spouses, jobs/positions in the congregations, and dating potential mates. There is a lot of pressure to attend Holy Days and Personal Appearance Campaigns as well as Fund Raisers and Fruit Sales. Most of the PCG youth are heading for the hills as soon as they reach 18 with the exception of the sons and daughters of the privileged elite such as contact persons, deacons, children of ministers and favored lackeys and cronies of the ministry. If you drink the Kool-Aid as a PCG youth and be a good boot licker you might be able to attend PCG Youth Camp in Edmond.
Thanks to all the hard work that goes into your website. it has been 16 years since I have been out and your website has been invaluable. God Bless. –M. M., Ohio
Members Speculating / Flurry False Prophecies:
(2nd email from person above)
August 12, 2019
What I should have told you in my first email was that many members in the PCG were speculating on who would take over after Gerald Flurry is retired because of poor health– which has not been unnoticed by the members. There are some that say that they hope that Stephen Flurry is going to relax the rigid Pharisaical standards of his father. Wayne Turgeon has been sent off to England to cool his heals and is considered a hard case like his father-in-law [Gerald Flurry]. I think that the hope is when GF dies/retires his son will sell off the jet and allow disfellowshipped people to come back and attend services. Who knows?
GF is such a fraud. When I came in June 1996 GF prophesied that the PCG would have a “Short Work” which would last only a few short years before the end. I remember the Trumpet articles that said this. The PCG is now into the 18 year beyond the “Last Hour” and these PCG elite frauds are still riding the old HWA gravy train.
There are many current PCG people that still talk to their disfellowshipped family members. They even post it on Facebook. So there are cracks in the Flurryite system that are starting to show. God Bless to you all. –M. M.
Stephen Flurry Will Most Certainly Take Over / Get Out Now:
September 4, 2019
It’s been quite a few years since I’ve emailed you and the ESN site. I’m glad that you still provide this valuable service.
I wanted to reply to M.M. who posted that members are speculating as to who will take over after GF becomes too ill to continue. This would also include the event of his passing. I can say without any hesitancy that this has been decided decades ago. Make no mistake about it that it is codified in writing that Stephen becomes the Pastor General of the PCG in either of the above scenarios. He is the heir and this was the case even when I was still in twenty years ago, and Stephen at that time was only in his late twenties. I once asked someone who was in the know about this, and he said emphatically that GF set it up for his son to take over in the event of his death. This was about 1999, or perhaps 2000. I’m sorry that I forgot this guys’ name, but he was a close friend of Stephen’s from Washington State. He was also close to the Joel Hilliker family, from which Stephen’s wife Amy came.
As far as Stephen relaxing the rigid Pharisaical standards of his father? Don’t anyone count on that happening. Stephen is an ultra-orthodox Armstrongite and of course Gerald Flurryite too. The disfellowshipment rules will not change one iota. Unless he makes them even stronger, which wouldn’t surprise me.
I also wouldn’t count on him selling the jet. I bet he rather likes it and will want to use it as often as finances will allow. Mostly he’ll want to keep it to help himself and his family “flee.” (Eye roll)
But, on the bright side I don’t expect the PCG to last very long after GF’s passing, or incapacitation. Just look how fast the WCG fell apart after HWA died. The PCG’s demise will be even faster. Much faster.
Those of you lurking members reading this my advice is to get out now. Your life is way too short to waste one more moment in that toxic organization that passes itself off as “God’s Church.” It was a bit scary for me to quit so I understand the fear of leaving. But once I did I never, ever regretted it. Not one bit. And nothing bad happened to me either, so don’t buy in to that nonsense that you will be “no longer protected or blessed.” That’s all nonsense.
–Regards, Michael Daniel (name used with permission)
PCG Already Showing Cracks in the Foundation:
September 5, 2019
I fully agree about Stephen Flurry inheriting the PCG throne. He’s been groomed for that position for years, and even now is taking GF’s place in the “personal appearances” campaign since GF’s health is becoming more frail. I also agree that the PCG will quickly go downhill after GF’s eventual death. It’s already showing cracks in the foundation in the form of fewer attendees and fewer local churches, which have had to be consolidated over the past few years. Plus overall, the membership is getting older; there’s many more gray hairs, bald heads, and attendees showing up for services in wheelchairs and walkers. –W. W.
September 5, 2019
A big reason why most don’t leave the PCG is because they are scripturally illiterate. I don’t mean that as an arrogant put down because being scripturally illiterate was a roadblock for me, and kept me captive to the Armstrongian spiritual prison. This is what happens whenever you let a man, or men who appoint themselves as “God’s men” tell you what the scriptures say. The fruits of this is Gerald Flurry saying, “I am That Prophet,” and the members believing it. If one is scripturally illiterate then he or she doesn’t know that by proclaiming “I am That Prophet” he is actually guilty of blasphemy.
About HWA’s prayer rock being the Stone of Destiny now. I remember reading about his “finding” the Prayer Rock shortly after I left the PCG. I gotta hand it to GF, he’s very good at keeping the sheep hypnotized with Armstrong Idolatry and passing it off as “obedience to God” Now I suppose he’s shifted more of the idolatry toward himself. PCG members must remember what Paul said about idols. It will save themselves a lot of deception. –Michael Daniel (former PCG member) [name used with permission]
PCG a Church With No Love:
September 8, 2019
First let me thank you for this informative website. Please keep it open for all to read and hopefully many more members of PCG will be brave enough to get the truth about what really goes on.
I attended the WCG for a few years then attended the PCG. I left the PCG around ten years ago after finding there was absolutely no “Love” in the organisation. Many of the members were sincere but the ministry was disgraceful.
I kept my personal information to myself but many were the times that certain members would try and get that information from me. I learnt early who were the spies in the congregation, knowing that whatever I said would be told to the minister.
I think the worst minister we had was Alex Harrison. It seems wherever he ministered he caused nothing but disharmony. He certainly is a true blue Armstrongite.
Like all other congregations, we met in dirty halls. One place was used for the cat society and the last hall I attended was so hot you could just not get cool. I had to come early to do the set up of the chairs, etc. Once I left my tie off and was blasted by a deacon for not showing respect.
On one feast day all the foodstuffs were placed on the table, and some of the younger people were so hungry they were at the beginning of the queue. Well the next feast day, Alex Harrison announced that the elders must go first and that no-one was to put too much on their plates. When the meal was over, there was plenty left over–no one was game enough to go back for seconds. How petty.
Keep up the good work. Regards, [name withheld]
Flurry Believing Again That the Ark of the Covenant Will Be Found:
September 11, 2019
In hopes of attracting more members, PCG has revived its idea that the ark of the covenant will be found. They had the feast there for a couple of years in Ireland but when nothing moved they moved the feast closer to Edstone. Now they are revving up that idea again probably to keep membership excited and hope to get more.
By the way, I saw photos from the Personal Appearance Campaigns. Most of the people there look to be PCG members with sprinkles of others and mostly elderly. I wonder if they are really as successful as the PCG brags to justify their plane purchase. –Ex-PCGer
None of Flurry’s Predictions or Prophecies Have Ever Come True:
September 26, 2019
I am an ex-member of the PCG. What I find missing in most comments is that not one of Gerald Flurry’s predictions or so called prophecies have ever come true and I’ve heard hundreds. At the time some were made, I knew they wouldn’t come true. In 2006 he said half of Jerusalem would be overrun that summer. I knew it would not happen because the Israeli army was too strong. Instead of correcting that, he kept making predictions. I say again, none, none have come true. God tells us if they don’t come true they’re not a prophet! And all are short term detailed predictions, I say again none came true! Check it out! –[name withheld]
GF Will Have a Plan if Trump isn’t Re-Elected
October 11, 2019
I’m sure that GF already has a plan if Trump isn’t re-elected: either an excuse for his failed prophecy or a distraction. It could be that the current emphasis on the Ark of the Covenant is a distraction. It’s all mind games for him. –H. T.
Humbling to Know I was So Wrong:
October 12, 2019
I know how hard it is to admit that I could have been so totally fooled by a man [Flurry] who claims to be “close to God.” It is humbling to come to the conclusion that I can be so wrong! I’m afraid that many have lost faith entirely because of these frauds. It is the Truth that sets us free. –Ex member of PCG
December 4, 2019
Suzanne Davis, wife of Brian Davis, passed away yesterday, December 3. –[name withheld]
Comment: Brian’s first wife, Brenda, is mentioned as dying in the testimony: Philadelphia Church of God is a Sick System!
Deaths of Suzanne Elizabeth Davis and Sandra Mellon Hessong:
December 19, 2019
I was very saddened to hear of the death of Suzanne Davis. She was the daughter of Richard and Sandra Hessong and the brother of PCG minister Andrew Hessong. Back in the day, I was close to this family, but as I did not join PCG I was within the no-contact zone and I have not spoken to the family for around 20 years. I was further saddened to hear that Sandra Hessong had passed away May 27 of this year. I believe she was not in PCG at the time of her death as Sandra’s obituary only mentioned her husband without any of the names of her children. It seems she was disowned even in death by her four children. This is such awful treatment and disappoints me greatly as they were a close family. Any additional information would be very much appreciated. –[name withheld]
Comment: Sandra Hessong had not been in PCG since 2009 but had family in PCG who cut off from her.
Sandra Hessong Received Much Mistreatment:
December 20, 2019
Thank you so much for this information and for your website.
I always wonder how I might “help” in lifting the veil that is over [those inside]. But, of course, I cannot contact them and the Lord must do the heavy lifting anyway.
Sandra was an energetic person and I am not surprised that she started asking the right questions. She had apparently contacted the Rock Valley Church regarding grace. What mistreatment she received by the PCG and her family! It must be a difficult time for her family to lose a mother at 72 and a sister at 49 in the same year.
I’m left with sadness to have not been able to at least have helped Sandra. I would like to think these sad events would make the Hessongs consider their misplaced allegiances, but I remember how I too once thought. –Blessings to you and yours. –[name withheld]
Suspended Ministers in South America / Few Members Left:
December 23, 2019
Hello ESN. A year ago the Chilean minister was suspended and two weeks ago the only minister left for South America was suspended with his wife. There are few members in South America. They do not exceed 50 members.
I was in the Philadelphia Church of God many years. My [omitted] is forbidden contact with me and [other family members]. The truth is we feel free, we are not oppressed, vindicated, judged about what we do or not even talk to people from the church of Peru, Colombia and Salvador. They’re really few and without ministers. Only diaconos [deacon], in Colombia two, and in Chile and Peru none. The PCG church in all these years in South America and Central America went from being more than 150 members to about half and continue to leave or die for not accepting medical treatments, like the daughter of the Colombian minister who died of cancer. The daughter was disassociated and he was suspended a few days ago. In Chile the minister was out about a year ago. We left the PCG around 15 young people from Colombia, Peru and Chile and they feel like me. Thanks to you for your great help. I pray that my [omitted] reacts and realizes what happens in the PCG.
A thousand thanks for your site and help. –South America [name removed]
Was Shocked to Read about the Death of Suzanne Davis:
December 24, 2019
I knew the family quite well when I was in PCG. Can anyone confirm what she died of? Didn’t Brian Davis first wife die young of cancer? Also does anyone here know Michael Canga of Texas? He recently got married to someone I know and apparently his second wife who he was married for a very short time had died, Shelly Marie I believe but I never did find her obituary. I was very close to his now 3rd wife who of course cut all contact when I left PCG. Thank you for any information. Ex-PCGer.
Reply: Brian’s first wife died of cancer and it’s in the testimony: “Philadelphia Church of God is a Sick System. Also read: Micki Campbell Dies which also talks about many wives of ministers and deacons dying.
ESN Site Valuable:
December 24, 2019
I knew Suzanne Davis and most of her family when I lived in Edmond, OK. Do you know if she was sick? There was no mention of a courageous battle with cancer or any illness. Several people are finding it odd that she died only about 7 months after her mother. I had no idea Sandra Hessong wasn’t in PCG. But, most of us Ex-PCGers know little about what’s going on in that so-called church. That’s why the ESN site is so valuable. I don’t care about their stupid teachings, but still care about the people. –Former member of PCG
Lost All My Family Due to the No Contact Policy:
December 24, 2019
Hello. I recently found your website. Thank you for it. I was a member of PCG and left in 2002. I lost all my family to the no contact policy and over the years have suffered severe depression and anxiety which has lead to so many health issues. –Former member of PCG
Comment: We have many helpful articles for survivors, especially in our section: Healing From Spiritual Abuse.
Deluded in Their Beliefs Without Searching Things Out:
December 24, 2019
I was minding my own business posting Merry Christmas and Happy New Year on Facebook when right away a PCGer posted a video from G. Flurry, “The truth about Christmas.” Then the person’s mother who has also returned back to the PCG after so many years of them being out of the PCG sends me a private message saying something like, oh we cannot believe how quickly you have turned away from “the Truth” and she also shared that video from G. Flurry. I was going to tell them off how they are so deluded by the false words of PCG but instead I blocked them.
And then I remembered how self-righteous I was in PCG and how I was so quick to judge people who had left. And how, when gossiping with other people in PCG, we would be like, “Oh, it is so sad that so and so left and has turned away, blah, blah.” And then it hits me. I actually feel pity for these people because they are so far gone, deluded in the beliefs without searching things out or actually proving that what G. Flurry says is actually true when all his predictions over the years have just fizzled; and yet these gullible people just keep believing and giving what money they have, hoping soon they will all be in a place of safety. Pitiful really. –Ex-PCGer.