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Everyone We Know Has Benefited From Your Site:
January 1, 2022
Your site has been a big help for us after we left PCG. We have been out for two years now and are still going through and absorbing everything on your site. Everyone we know who has left has said they have benefited from your site. –Former member of PCG
January 2, 2022
Jude Flurry, son of the infamous Stephen Flurry, and who attends Herbert W.Armstrong College, was baptized November 6, 2021 by his father and Joel Hilliker. Are we looking at another PCG evangelist in the making? [Note: Read: Edmond Elite Youth Being Taught How to Riverdance (Irish Dancing)] –[name withheld]
Scott Flory Ordained as Deacon:
January 3, 2022
Scott Flory was ordained as a deacon by Brian Davis on October 2, 2021. He will be over the Cincinnati-Dayton, Ohio congregation.
As a side note, Steve Flory (age 30), grandson of Dale Flory, and oldest son of Steven and Kymberli Flory, married Maria Buckner on November 7, 2021. Both were from the Cincinnati-Dayton, OH congregation. “Preaching Elder” Eric Burns officiated at the ceremony. The couple now resides in Miamisburg, OH.
Dale Flory (who passed away in July 2021) was the father of little 12-year old Alicia Flory who died of a virulent viral infection.” For more information on this see: “Little Girl Died from Lack of Medical Attention” (January 18, 2014 letter) and ” The Tragic Death of Alicia Flory” (January 11, 2022 letter below).
Scott Flory, is the man who was forced to abandon his wife Cassie according to the evil dictates and approval of Cal Culpepper. More about this was covered in the August 10, 2016 letter “Outrageous and Hypocritical Article by Joel Hilliker” and the August 4, 2016 article, “New No-Contact Ruling From Gerald Flurry.” (search for their names)
So Glad To Be Out of That Mess:
January 5, 2022
When I look at the Flory family, their painful history totally disproves GF’s lie and con message that you will be blessed and prosperous if you kowtow and serve the Flurry cult wholeheartedly. In the late [date removed] when I attended PCG and spent time with the Florys in their homes, it all looked good initially. By all outward appearances they were a happy, devout, religious clan of God-fearing people. However when we reflect on the litany of premature and tragic deaths, divorce, broken marriages, estrangement amongst siblings, adultery, etc., you see that there is no special divine approbation to those who wholeheartedly serve the PCG. We are so grateful to be out of that mess. –Former PCG member [name withheld]
PCG’s Misleading Lies About Their Archaeology:
January 6 , 2022
The PCG’s watchJerusalem website, retweeted as well in the “churches” twitter feed, has a headline that says :
“Our Top 10 Biblical Archaeology Discoveries Of 2021”
I just want to draw attention to how shady and misleading they are. Despite what Andrew Locher said in a Bible study given during their summer camp last year, they don’t have any archaeologist employed by the PCG nor are they even remotely capable of graduating an archaeologist from their indoctrination college [Herbert W. Armstrong College]. And they most certainly have not made any archaeological discoveries or even participated in any digs this year. This subtle misinformation is what they do in every aspect of their religion.
Also while on the topic, notice how they refuse to release how much money they paid for Dr. Eilat Mazar’s book collection. Just as Herbert Armstrong bought his way into literally every head of state meeting he had and pawned it off as God’s doing. –Former PCG member
Heard Andrew Locher Lying to Campers:
January 6, 2022
I listened to that last Bible Study Andrew Locher gave at PCG Youth Camp [now known as Philadelphia Church of God Summer Educational Program or SEP]. It was awful. He was trying to convince the campers why they should go to H. W. Armstrong college and how it has “turned out so many successful people in all different careers” and went on to say they had “two archaeologists” in the PCG. He was referring to, but didn’t directly name, Chris Eames and Brent Naagtagal. It was a blatant lie! They are not archaeologists! Not even close! Andrew Locher is just a slimy little liar. –N. L.
Carlos Heyer Being Transferred to Latin America
January 7, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
[Note: This letter was updated 1-13-22 along with new comments.]
January 11, 2022
I was around when Alicia Flory died. I ate and slept over at their house when I worked for them at their construction company. We all fellowshipped together every Sabbath and holy day. I worked as a part time contractor with Dale Flory and his sons in their construction business. But I was told by a Flory family member that Dale and his wife were trying natural remedies with their daughter [to help her get well]. I was told that pus was coming out of her ear and that is why they finally took her to the doctors. The problem was that they waited too long to give her antibiotics. If everything was on the up and up to begin with, why did the State/County even have to investigate?
I know Yvonne was into Reiki and all natural healing methods, some of which were New Age (Kinesiology and Reflexology, for instance). Yvonne did tell me about Reiki. I remember distinctly because I had never heard about this type of natural healing before. Just how she practiced it precisely [or if she used it on Alicia] I am not able to expertly relate. I know she showed me her room in her Greenville, OH house with candles, aroma therapy, and New Age music where she helped people with physical infirmities. She sold natural herbs and remedies if my memory serves me correctly.
I am not a family member of the Florys. Perhaps I was not as intimately involved in the inner familial workings of those people but it was not as if I am an outsider making stuff up. They [the family] waited too long with that natural healing stuff until they finally went to a doctor. When you bring a kid into a doctor’s office with pus coming out of their ear in an advanced viral infection, any physician will realize that this did not happen overnight. The doctor had to file a report with the local authorities. I have had children die in my family and amongst friends and coworkers. I have never had one time heard a report of the authorities investigating a child’s death. Something was rotten in Denmark as the saying goes.
Could it be the PCGs diabolical doctrine of no doctors that could have been a factor in Alicia’s tragic and untimely death? [Refer to: Use of the medical profession is strongly discouraged from article “Philadelphia Church of God Information.”]
I remember attending Alicia’s funeral and helping shovel the dirt into her grave.
–Brett Streutker, former member of PCG and author of New No-Contact Ruling From Gerald Flurry; Gerald Flurry Remarries–Hypocrisy From the Top; We Were Miraculously Protected During Kentucky Tornadoes, et al. on site.
Comments from ESN: Read: New Age Alternative Healing. which covers Kinesiology, Reflexology, Aromatherapy, and other alternative healing. Also, remember that one of the “healing sessions” that WCG brought in (during the changes) to try and deal with members’ recovery concerns was called “Pathways for Peace and Healing.” A search on this group shows that it is based on Shamanism, which is tied in with Reiki healing, a New Age and occult practice. (Read: Reiki a universal energy technique to heal.) The founder of Reiki was Dr. Mikao Usui a Japanese theologian who claims that Reiki came to him in a vision.
January 11, 2022
Did you know that Vicki Barreiro’s husband committed suicide?? Vicki moved to Ponca City, OK to be near HQs in Edmond, OK, leaving her parents, 80 or so years old, alone in CA. –[name withheld]
Comment: Read: Gerald Flurry Remarries–Hypocrisy From the Top. Footnote #1 at bottom tells how Vicki Sue Barreiro married Gerald Flurry on November 16, 2020 and then links to the letter with the special announcement, which says the marriage all started with “ministerial counseling.”
Went to AC With Husband of Vicki Barreiro:
(2nd email from person above)
January 12, 2022
It was around November 2017 when he [Vicki’s husband] committed suicide.
We’ve been suffering since at least 2017. My husband and I were put out at that same Feast after I’d spoken with Vicki about where was Lou. She said “They’re working with him.” He had been put out. I guess it didn’t go too well. I’d gone to AC with Lou and I thought it sounded a bit too cavalier. Then we were put out at the Feast, then let back in 12 weeks later; asked regional director about Lou and he admitted he’d killed himself. We were put out again in July 2021 for not coming back immediately after our building opened up for Covid. Still don’t know what to do. Have read your site several times and found it helpful. –Kind regards, –Ex PCG [name withheld]
Told Baptism Wasn’t Valid:
(3rd email from person above)
January 12, 2022
There’s so much that I guess I’ve got stored away, and if you don’t mind I’ll get some of it off my chest. Gerald Flurry decided Lou Barreiro [Vicki Barreiro’s husband] hadn’t been baptized–his baptism hadn’t been valid–so that would mean he’d still have a chance at eternal life. That’s handy as a way out. It wasn’t that he’d been tormented in his mind by being kept from the Feast and probably told he’d have to be re-baptized. They tried to do that to me, too (the same minister)–that maybe my baptism hadn’t been valid simply because I’d been baptized at 18 at AC [Ambassador College]. But I quoted Herbert Armstrong’s booklet that if you have been truly baptized it would be wrong to redo it. So the regional director (Brian Davis) decided mine had been valid. But I know what it did to me. It was devastating. My whole life would mean nothing.
There was a woman in her early 50’s that they did re-baptize at this time. This time they said we “might be tares” even though the new regional director (Cal Culpepper) said, “You’re a delightful couple and have a lot to give.” I guess he changed his mind when we left it [PCG] too long to come back after Covid. This decision we found out later was just as GF was starting to date Vicki Barrerio exclusively, so I can’t help but wonder if his judgement might not have been quite on the mark (for our sake I hope that’s the case anyway). You can see the turmoil still in me. Anyway, thanks for listening. –Ex PCG [name withheld]
P.S. Just to clarify. It was July 2020 when they put us out (not 2021). The local guy, Roger Brandon, was on the warpath against us. Cal Culpepper was more amenable, but said GF kept reminding him it was 3 weeks in a row out [from not attending], then out. It was just too far for us in our circumstances but that wasn’t OK I guess. Bums [buttocks] on chairs isn’t the same as conversion. Hope God sees it that way. –Ex PCG [name withheld]
Comment: This person has received a personal reply. UPDATE: Examples of a Tightly Controlled System (Philadelphia Church of God) Copies of three documents faxed from PCG HQs. Covers rules for: Bible Studies; PCG picnics and socials and valid baptismal counseling. (Has Marvin Campbell’s signature on them.)
Note: If anyone has turned to Christ in faith and accepted Him into their lives, they are baptized by the Holy Spirit and have eternal life which cannot be lost. See: How Do I Receive Eternal Life?
Continuing to Destroy People’s Lives By the Day:
January 13, 2022
Sometimes I can hardly wrap my head around what is transpiring in PCG. It seems like absolute madness. This cult is continuing to destroy people’s lives by the day while GF and the rest of his goons exhibit complete indifference as to what they are doing. I continue to pray against GF and his schemes and lies daily and that God would intervene for the suffering people. –A. R.
Thinking We Left God:
January 13, 2022
This is concerning the couple that were put out and told their baptism wasn’t valid. [See 1-12-22 letter] That poor couple! I know exactly what they are going through. I hope they can do some research and prove what Herbert Armstrong was and how it was all just for money. Otherwise they will be living with guilt hanging over their heads, thinking they left God, when in fact they left Gerald Flurry and the PCG. –Former member of PCG
January 14, 2022
I found out that Andrew Hessong moved to Ohio to be right where his idol, Brian Davis is. [Note: Brian Davis is the brother-in-law of Andrew Hessong] I don’t think some people understand that everything Hessong did was actually done by Brian Davis, through him. These men under Brian Davis can’t wipe their noses without first running it by Brian. I think it’s funny that Hessong got fired when Cal Culpepper moved over the Western region.
Also, I thought you might be interested in knowing that when it comes to women, Brian Davis is a serial re-baptizer! That is his MO when he comes across a woman who either isn’t swooning over him or is giving him the slightest trouble in getting them completely under control. I personally know of 4 but know there have been more! It is a way of humiliating them thus gaining control and bringing them into submission to him. (His attitude towards women is text book narcissistic sociopath, which I am 100% sure he is one) –Former PCG member [name withheld]
Comment: Read: Brian Davis Is an Abusive Tyrant which will link to other letters on the site about him.
PCG Has Lost Several of Their Platforms:
January 14, 2022
I received notes from my source that pertained to a recent sermonette by Mark Hyde which was called “The Cancel Culture Front.” PCG has lost several of their platforms and it’s all due to “Satan” and the “cancel culture” which shows us “time is short” and now it is “up to the members to do something about it.” He said often the co-worker letters are descriptions of “our enemy’s campaign against us.” Ever notice how Satan is brought into everything in the PCG? Especially when there’s a problem?
He called it “strong headwinds” when he said PCG lost most of their ability to use YouTube and Facebook this year and “one of their most effective cable television networks ended their contract with them after 13 years.” Now they are having trouble finding “replacement outlets.” The reason for these problems? “The message is getting stronger and the world more hostile.”
So, they are to “pray for open doors” because Satan is using this cancel culture to “stifle this message.”
It was the same old verbiage of “We are quickly running out of time.” Didn’t we hear HWA say that over and over from the beginning of his ministry? Haven’t we heard GF say it over and over since 1989?
Hyde said, “God’s Work is going to get done but how fast may depend on us.” May? It always seems to “depend on the members.” They are to pray a door will open and that God’s Work will get done. But if it was truly was God’s Work, would they have to worry so much about it getting done? –[name withheld]
Comment: Mark Hyde is married to Rachel Leap, daughter of Dennis Leap.
Dennis Leap Once Got on a Table at the FOT and Started Shouting:
January 14, 2022
Speaking of abusive ministers, I want to relate how Dennis Leap got up on a table once and was shouting in these other members’ faces. He was disfellowshipping a couple of members at the Feast one year and he really made a big show of it.
I don’t think any of these ministers in PCG show any humility befitting a real servant of Jesus. –[name withheld]
Brian Davis Controlled and Morphed Many Men Into Dictators:
January 15, 2022
In regards to the letter you had posted about Andrew Hessong and Brian Davis [see January 14], I’d like to add my personal experience with Brian Davis. He always makes comments such as “If so and so can’t control his wife then God’s church will control her for him.” This allowed him to control and morph many men into dictators. No one wanted to be seen as not having control over their family. There are many sermons given about men controlling their wives and making sure they aren’t allowing the wife be the neck that turns the man’s head.
Looking back on the things that went on there I can see just how wrong it was. At the time I knew on some level that it wasn’t right and saw many men treat their wives and children badly. Blame would almost always be placed on the woman regardless of circumstance. I hope that people thinking of joining this organisation will read your site and realise what they are getting involved with. –Ex member of PCG
Dennis Leap’s Behavior Has Been Sickening:
January 17, 2022
Regarding the letter about Dennis Leap getting up on a table and shouting [see January 14, 2022 letter], I have no problem believing it. He broke up many families and threw hundreds of people out when he was a minister. There is a lot of dirt on him that would stun those he has been able to fool. His behavior has been sickening. He was known by his friends to tell “great dirty jokes.” There are far worse things that I can’t mention. His poor wife hardly ever smiled. Today he is only a “senior writer” for PCG and he has no speaking role anymore.
I’m sure it would shock us to find out what many of these so-called “righteous ministers of God” are really like, including Gerald Flurry, men who love to abuse any who dare to speak up to them, or even attempt to quote Scripture. I doubt GF will ever repent of his sins that have accumulated over the years (the no-contact ruling being one) as his goal has been to pursue power and money.
While there’s so much evil in that cult, there’s so much love and peace with Jesus that thankfully we can acquire if we leave. –Ex PCG
Comment: There is much on our site about Dennis Leap especially in regard to Malachi’s Message. One for instance is: “Dennis Leap, Malachi’s Message and Mark Nash.” Do a search on his name. Also be aware that more than two witnesses have testified to Leap’s unsavory behavior.
Cruel Actions by Dennis Leap:
January 18, 2022
There was a man in PCG who divorced his wife (not a member) due to the PCG encouraging him to do so [no contact ruling]. This man was fairly well off financially. My mother (who was not a member) talked with his wife in the past at the PCG feast and she told my mother that she was very concerned and scared at the time her husband would chose the “church” over her and it turned out to be true. My mother feared the same thing but my father thought she was crazy and said that the PCG would never make him chose his family or the church. Well he got a big surprise when Dennis Leap came to his home and told him to never talk to me again or have anything to do with me and encouraged him to “get rid” of my mother. It really shook him up although not enough to make him stop attending.
My father was not rich but he was fairly well off (more so than a lot of church members in his area) and so we really didn’t expect Dennis Leap to disfellowship him because of that, although we’d loved him to in a way. Dennis Leap told my father that they had been watching him for a long time and found him not to be very zealous in his deacon duties. My father agreed with him and told him that it was because Dennis didn’t give them any positive comments and encouragement. I’m very surprised that my father wasn’t disfellowshipped then and there, but I’m sure he worded it in a favorable way.
My father told us that Dennis Leap at one point had been talking about feast reservations and said that if any member made hotel/house reservations before he said it was okay that he would personally call and cancel them himself. –[name withheld]
Comment: Read this excellent letter: More About Dennis Leap and PCG which will also link to “Glad Dennis Leap Finally Recognized as the Insane Man He Was.”
Nobody Liked Dennis Leap:
January 19, 2022
I think any position (“power”) Dennis Leap has comes from the fact that he knows too much about where Malachi’s Message came from, since he helped to rewrite it. Flurry has put him down, but cannot get rid of him. Leap’s wife never accompanied him on visits. Maybe she didn’t want to hear him be cruel. She only smiled in response to a friendly greeting, and even then she looked like she didn’t know how. He had the unhappiest family I ever saw in the PCG. Even though Leap used to be fat, he used to call another young minister “Bubble Butt.” Nobody liked him. –Former member of PCG
GF Adds to Revelation 3:8 / Hints at January 16 “Miracle”:
January 21, 2022
GF, on January 15 said this day was “D-Day” and called it a “special weekend.” He gave some announcements before his sermon and the first thing I noticed was how he added to Revelation 3:8. He said that he thought of this Scripture while Dwight Falk was giving the sermonette about January 16. He said he remembered it very distinctly because he didn’t think he ever heard HWA say this. He told how HWA was being criticized about some things and that he (HWA) went to Revelation 3:7-8. Then GF read verse 8. However, GF added to that Scripture. He read it as saying, and I quote his words:
“Behold I have set before you an open door (that’s Mr. Armstrong) and no man can shut it for you have a little strength and have kept my word and have not denied my name or my government.” If you will read Revelation 3:8 you will find that it does not say “my government.” The verse ends with “and hast not denied my name.” I wonder if any members picked up on that? GF said HWA silenced his critics for quite awhile by reading that. I’m sure he did if he added the words “my government.”
Then he gave a few announcements and said “This really falls in the category of a miracle day” or “close to it.” He told how on January 11 PCG sent out their first issue of “Let the Stones Speak” to the printer and that the magazine should start arriving in the mailbox this weekend to the U.K. subscribers. [This will be the magazine of the new institute.] He said on January 16 and 17, the Armstrong-Mizar Institute of Biblical Archaeology [refer to November 13, 2021 letter to ESN and GF’s co-worker letter of November 1] will be launching its new website. ArmstrongMazar.com
Then he told how he (GF) “made a special request to enter Jerusalem without vaccination” but they denied his request. However, he said the dept. manager suggested he be in touch with him in a couple of weeks “when the Omicron wave will hopefully be over and he will reconsider our application.”
He told members that everything is opening up over there in Jerusalem and he is sure that God is going to get them over there “in a certain appointed time.” –Anonymous
GF Still Trying to Pull a January 16 Miracle Out of a Hat:
January 21, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
Stephen Flurry Goes Off the Rails Again:
January 22, 2022
Just to show how far off the rails Stephen Flurry is getting, he gave a Bible Study titled “Ask and You Shall Receive” where he talked about how we members (including the PCG youth) should know how to answer questions. He said the following which I thought was more than a little ridiculous:
“There is going to come a time when people are going to be chasing us down, pulling at the hem of our garment, to get answers to life’s most important questions. And we’ve got to be ready to answer everyone that asks.”
On the other hand, if a member were to ask a minister (especially your highness SF or GF) something that they don’t like, don’t want to hear, or can’t answer, you can be sure that person will be suspended on the spot.
In this Bible study, SF took a long time to brag non-stop about Herbert Armstrong, ad nauseam, raising him up as the whitest of white saints.What would PCG ever do if they didn’t have HWA to continually refer to? The Bible, and especially the Christ of the Bible, wouldn’t be enough for them.
Even though this Bible study was about how we should know how to ask and reply to questions, SF said God doesn’t want us to question His authority (Translation: PCG ministers), His leadership (Translation: Gerald Flurry and Stephen Flurry), His Truth (Translation: GF’s teaching promulgated to the exclusion of all other groups).
He told about the “abundant life you all have in God’s church” and “why would you want to give that up?”
The only ones I know who have the “abundant life” are the higher up ministers and their pampered, rich kids. The rest have to endure split families, financial problems, and fearing what’s coming in the future.
I wonder how SF thinks his loud, nerve-wracking, voice (which crescendos in the middle of all his speeches) is going to get anyone to focus on asking any kind of question. But his behavior is all part of mind control which he is very good at. –G. E.
Comment: To read about this so-called “abundant life” of members, read: “Abuses I Was Aware of in Philadelphia Church of God.”
Leap’s Behavior Not Christ-Like:
January 23, 2022
That’s insane about Dennis Leap shouting from a tabletop. [see 1-14 letter] Doesn’t sound very Christ-like to me. –Impacted by loved one in PCG
GF Says Get Rid of Your Smartphones or You Will End up in the Tribulation:
January 25, 2022
I just wanted to draw attention to the last sermon GF gave entitled, “Jeremiah’s Commission.”
Towards the end he began speaking about smartphones. He referenced one specific family who used them and though he didn’t specifically say, he alluded to them no longer being members. So whether they were kicked out or left I don’t know.
He then proceeded in an attempt to scare his followers by saying if people don’t get rid of their smartphone they will end up in the Tribulation and they’ll be eating their sons, daughters and friends and he then asked, “what good will those smart phones be then?”
This is only about control! Think about this. What is the difference between an iPad or a computer? They all access the same information. What is the difference between a man at work all day on his computer in his private office or a stay at home mom with access all day to her iPad?? There is literally no difference.
GF does this to control, and if the members secretly keep their smartphones then they feel guilty and will attribute any bad thing that happens to them to this little “act of rebellion.” And if the ministry finds out someone is “rebelling,” then that gives them leverage and control over them. Even by their own doctrine, if their members can’t control themselves and stay off the porn sites–which he seemed to indicate that was a problem–how then can they make it into their supposed kingdom? Clearly they don’t have the character, and can’t do it unless their life is controlled for them.
Last time I checked, God doesn’t want robots. If He did, He would have made us so. It makes no difference if they access porn via a smartphone, iPad, or computer. It’s not about that, it’s solely about control, just like the recent ruling on men only wearing white shirts to church. It is 100% cult behavior. –T. C.
January 25, 2022
This cult has all the characteristics of a criminal organization posing as a “church.” It has been said before that Gerald Flurry “exaggerates like an accomplished maniacal liar.” You can see this over and over again if you pay careful attention to what he says and writes. As far as I’m concerned, he’s a true sociopath that needs to be exposed to the nth degree. GF, SF, and all their “carefully chosen” ones in this wicked, abominable organization are only interested in taking people’s money and they will do whatever it takes to accomplish that end, even if it means lying and taking Scripture out of context. One article on your site tells how they get the elderly to hand over their estates, wills and other assets. They also love it when someone is sick and dying and has money that they can coerce them out of leaving to them. This cult needs to be destroyed by God in Heaven and I know it will be someday! It has already destroyed enough innocent lives as it is. –T. S.
Comment: Also read: PCG Preying on the Old, Sick and Dying (and Not Leaving Any Paper Trail) (letter to ESN)
Not All PCG Members Will Give Up Their Smartphones:
January 30, 2022
On the subject of smartphones, My wife is in PCG and she certainly has not given up her smartphone. I doubt if others in PCG are doing so either. –Impacted by loved one in PCG
My Ex-Wife Died in PCG Died Due to Medical Neglect:
January 30, 2022
Reviewing these pages has helped me understand and strengthen my thoughts about the PCG and my ex-wife’s passing.
My wife joined the PCG in the early 1990s. I continued attending a traditional Christian denomination while she attended the PCG. I kept getting vibes that her “church” was a cult from the members I met and because of the control it had on her thoughts and actions. We eventually ended up divorcing [several] years later due to the strain it was causing on our children and marriage. She married a member of the PCG and ended up moving multiple times to different states and loosing contact with her children.
Her husband called us in the middle of the night [date removed] that she was dying, was incoherent, and couldn’t talk. Word quickly spread and my son called the town’s police to do a wellness check. They arrived and insisted the husband allow them to call an ambulance and he argued. One was finally called but the husband refused any medical treatment at the hospital because that was her wish. He produced a hand written note stating she didn’t want medical intervention and later he admitted signing the paper. We learned later she possibly wasn’t allowed transportation (by her choice or others) to medical help for a few weeks leading up to her death. PCG members would come over and sit with her to pray and use healing cloths. This was murder by neglect. We also suspected the husband may have had a hand in her demise. The police never did an autopsy or investigation. Later [date removed], he remarried a PCG member and had a child.
The PCG stole my wife, contributed to her death, and emotionally scarred me and my children. Your pages have given me knowledge that my experience was unfortunately shared by others. –[name withheld]
PCG Says They Are “Temporarily Unable” to Produce CDs for Visually-Impaired:
January 30, 2022
In PCG “Important Announcements” they posted this:
Unlike in the past, Audio Recording staff has not been able to produce CDs of our regular publications for the visually-impaired (or blind) since the summer. We’re temporarily unable to produce them and will resume the program as soon as it’s feasible. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused to those who rely on the material. Projects may be completed intermittently; if so, a single CD set may arrive in mailboxes occasionally for those who are subscribed.
I don’t think PCG is worried so much about members recording the sermons on their smartphones as they are about a shut-in having one of these CDs accidentally getting to someone that isn’t a member. I remember only one letter you posted where someone passed on the Celtic Throne Performance (Read 2021 letter: “Someone Passed a Copy of the Celtic Throne Performance on to Me“) However, members have too much fear in them to be recording the sermons on their smartphones. That’s just my thoughts from knowing some who have left. The fear PCG places in them is diabolical. That said, perhaps it’s best that the “visually-impaired” don’t hear these sermons. Maybe it will give them time to think about leaving. I would think, though, that sending them a copy even “occasionally” is taking a risk of it getting into someone else’s hands. –[name withheld]
Brad Macdonald Makes Members and Singles Fear to be Unequally Yolked:
February 1, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
SF’s Over-Excitement Regarding Trucker Convoy in Canada:
February 1, 2022
I can’t stand Stephen Flurry, or his voice (and others have commented on that), but after I watched the trucker convoy story on The Highwire, I decided to grit my teeth and listen to the Trumpet Daily: “Canada rallies around freedom convoy – Trudeau goes into hiding,” because I wanted to hear what SF had to say about it.
SF was laughing, raising his voice, and getting super excited and loud (like he always does about a major story) because of Justin Trudeau [Prime Minister of Canada], going into hiding. After the first few minutes, I thought, how many people who are new to the DT [Daily Trumpet] will hear SF acting like a lunatic when they first tune into the program and not listen further? I didn’t listen to all of it as he always brings Satan in at the end and begins offering HWA’s books (especially MOA) which “gives the answers.”
The story, which has been widely circulated, is about Justin Trudeau putting in place a Covid-19 vaccine mandate for cross-border truckers. This caused thousands of truckers [40 thousand] who had had enough to peacefully protest by driving across the country to Ottawa for negotiations. Trudeau is calling it a “small fringe movement” which is not true. The media is still trying to post an untrue narrative about it.
The Highwire (which included feedback from Jefferey Jaxen of The Jaxen Report) had a much calmer and more balanced show about it here: “Thousands of Truckers Convoy in Protest.”
Even though I’m glad to see this happening because of the absolute tyranny going on in Canada, I do wonder how much of an impact in reality this will have on the evil globalists. –A. R.
Members Would Also Be Labeled If They Protested:
February 3, 2022
The media and politicians in Canada are calling the truckers who are protesting “terrorists.” Now how insane is that? And for Canadians only wanting their freedoms. I imagine that if many in PCG protested (“rebelled”), they would have a pejorative label placed on them, too, except GF would blame it on Satan. It was the same in WCG in the 70’s. –[name withheld]
Truckers in U.S. to Protest / PCG Using Facebook to Spy on Members:
February 4, 2022
Truckers in the US are planning their own convoy from CA to Washington D.C. beginning March 1 to peacefully protest the authoritarian vaccine mandates. I was listening to Washington Watch and Brian Base, co-organizer of the DC trucker Freedom Convoy, told how Facebook shut down their page and used lies about them to do it. (They now have a new FB page.) It is common for Facebook to silence and censor those who are telling the truth and they have been doing this for some time. Yet PCG who does not tell the truth is able to have several pages on Facebook to promote themselves and will spy on members that they know are on there, especially to see if they are talking to disfellowshipped family members. –[name withheld]
GF Switches Gears and Says God is Forming His “Gideon’s Army”:
February 5, 2022
GF used to quote HWA as stating something about “when the church pleased God, it grew,” but they no longer ever say that because it hasn’t had growth in many years. They’ve even stopped printing their circulation numbers in their magazines. Now they’ve switched gears and talk about how God is forming his little “Gideon’s Army” and that in these end times they should expect to lose members–the ones who never really believed. Well I call B.S. on that. I attended the WCG and PCG for many years. I believed! I believed it hook, line and sinker! Until one day I sat down and started trying to figure out why my family was on the brink of disintegrating. When I stepped back and looked at things objectively and without all of the lies, manipulation and fear mongering–well, let’s just say I was quite surprised to see the “church” was the culprit.
Thankfully I was able to think clearly and have been out for several years. It was quite an adjustment as my parents came in to WCG when I was a little child. I only knew that way of life. But God has deeply blessed me and my husband (he was out of PCG before me). And I’m so thankful!
I don’t believe God is in PCG in any way. I want it to be exposed for all of the negative ways it has impacted people.
Thank you again for all you do. –Former PCG member
Alex Harrison Was the Biggest Hypocrite of All:
February 6, 2022
Alex Harrison was always very, very controlling. He was a manipulator, a liar, and abuser and most of all the biggest hypocrite that has ever existed!!
There is hypocrisy within the PCG at the highest level and which proves PCG is not a Christian church but a cult that is self serving and not at all Bible based. –Ex member of PCG
Comment: Much has been posted on our site about Alex Harrison (died 11-20-20) One letter is: Alex Harrison Destroyed Families and Spiritual Lives (2-23-21 letter)
Andrew Locher’s Poppycock Words:
February 6, 2022
Andrew Locher in a recent sermon was gearing everyone up for the Days of Unleavened Bread. It was the same, “Let me quote to you what HWA said back in 1975 (and wherever) about how “only those whose heart is fully in the Work continue to overcome and to grow spiritually.” Notice it has to be “fully” which translates into giving money, lots of money. According to HWA, you can’t grow spiritually unless you do this. This is poppycock. I find nothing in the Scriptures which say this and the Scriptures (untwisted) are what we should go by.
He spent a good portion in the beginning of his sermon telling how “donations have increased” and this year was even “stronger by quite a margin.” How about Locher lay out the financial records so everyone can see whether or not this is true? Let’s have some open books on PCG”s finances.
He finished up by saying, “This Work is about to perform its final heroic deeds of this age. Jesus Christ is about to return.” I wish others would keep track of how many times those words are said every single year, every holy day, and even throughout the year. How far back do those words go? To the time of HWA in his early years? People need to start thinking and see they are being taken for a ride–a very expensive ride. –J. W.
PCG Committing Crimes Against the Brethren:
February 7, 2022
My husband and I left PCG 14 years ago (we ended up divorcing but not because of the PCG). We attended in Sacramento, CA and met many of the top ministers in the PCG while we attended over a span of 14 years prior to leaving.
Upon keeping updated on what is going on in this group it has come to my attention that this group is now committing crimes against the brethren. I have long thought that this group needs to be reported. They need to be held responsible for any child’s untimely and unnecessary death! We always had people in the PCG who were the local “natural healers” and it was pushed on us to go through them first. At least in Sacramento it was. The inheritances that are stolen and so many other crazy things to list that are being done is not right.
I almost died myself while attending this “church” because of severe social pressure coming from the ministry. I shudder to think how my kids almost had to grow up without me while my husband at the time shouted in my face that I needed to die in faith. He refused to dial 911 but called the minister first. I was bleeding to death. The minister told him that if I did not have the faith to be healed, then he needed to call 911. So finally he did.
These people are not a “church” or of God. They are criminals. –Former PCG member
Hot Air Article:
February 7, 2022
I meant to send this in earlier. To finish the end of 2021 off, Gerald Flurry wrote a hot air article entitled, “Following Elijah.” (December 10, 2021)
First of all, why does the title say “Following Elijah”? Didn’t Jesus say many times to follow Him? (use a Bible concordance and look up the words “follow me” in the N. T.
And what does GF offer at the end of this “Following Elijah” hot air article? You got that right–Malachi’s Message, which should really be entitled Gerald Flurry’s Message. Or more accurately, Jules Dervaes Message, co-authored by Dennis Leap. (Read: Malachi’s Message–How True Is It?” –Anonymous
Comment: “Following Elijah” is also chapter four in the book Malachi’s Message.
Ninety Percent of the Truckers Protesting in Canada Are Vaccinated:
February 8, 2022
Regarding the truckers protest in Canada. Ninety percent and more of the truckers are vaccinated. It is the mandates they are against. They don’t like being forced to do something. The media isn’t allowed to show how massive the convoy is. Justin Trudeau is an idiot in my opinion. Nothing but lies coming out of his mouth. It’s becoming an Orwellian dictatorship in Canada. Had enough of that in the WCG splinter groups. –[name withheld]
Comment: He is a NWO globalist.
Truckers Freedom Protest Shows We Shouldn’t Let Ourselves Be Manipulated by Anyone:
February 9, 2022
Yes, Trudeau is a NWO globalist. He is also a fascist. He wants to crush this protest as it challenges the government worldwide that thinks they can do anything they want. That’s why the global leaders believe they have to stop it. They can’t let the truckers succeed because it represents a threat to the establishment and to the ruling elite. But from what I’ve heard, Ottawa doesn’t have enough police to stop it.
This all has to do with freedom. It has a direct bearing on our freedoms. We shouldn’t let ourselves be manipulated by anyone. The people of Canada need to stand for these truckers and support them. Truckers are the most important people for our economy right now. –A. R.
You Are a Great Resource:
February 10, 2022
You guys are a great resource of written back history for sure and there is none like you.
Thank you for your answers and getting back to me on all counts. I appreciate it. I received your email about the person wanting to talk to me and I am getting ready to email them.
By the way, I LOVE that you include The HighWire info on your site for people to follow. I have been listening to Robert Kennedy Jr. and Del Bigtree (of the HW) for a long time now. –Former PCG member
Comment: A new show is aired on The HighWire every Thursday at 11 a.m. PST. There are always shorter segments from the Episodes later. Download the Brave or Opera app to watch as Firefox and others give buffering problems.
Royal Vision Nothing But a Propaganda Machine:
February 12, 2022
The Royal Vision (free to outsiders) is nothing but a propaganda machine. The January-February 2022 issue with article by GF “Who Can But Prophecy? starts out imitating HWA’s autobiography style and methodology, except beginning from his boyhood, as HWA did, he starts from right before he was fired from WCG in 1989. This article showed GF was trying to be exactly like HWA in telling his “story.” He went over how he “stood alone”; how most of them didn’t believe him at the Bible study he gave, but God was giving him new revelation (even though he “didn’t fully realize it at the time”); that God was “conditioning” him for what lay ahead; he knew he had to speak about what God was showing him (Malachi’s Message) and how when you have “just one man in an enterprise with God” great things happen. It was all about how God works with people like him, and he bragged about what all he has accomplished since then. The clear signs of a narcissist/sociopath are there.
The leaders of the PCG have shown they can’t do anything but lie. Even where the 72 chapter Autobiography of Herbert W. Armstrong is published on the Trumpet website, they lie by saying HWA (1892-1986) “was one of the most prominent religious leaders of the 20th century, watched, read and followed by millions worldwide.” I have no way of knowing how many “followed” him, but he certainly was not one of the “most prominent religious leaders of the 20th century.” If you do a search for those words, you will come up with names like Swami Vivekananda, Billy Graham, Dalai Lama, Karl Barth, various Popes, Mother Theresa, John R. Mott, and others. Nothing is mentioned of Herbert W. Armstrong. He didn’t even make the top 10 religious leaders of the 20th century, nor the ten most influential Christians of the 20th century. I think we all know what the Scriptures say about liars. –AJW
Dennis Leap and His Twisted Valentine’s Day Article:
February 14, 2021
Dennis Leap, the PCG minister who once stood on a table and shouted [refer to January 14 letter above], wrote an article in February 2019 entitled, “Find True Love On Valentine’s Day.”
After going through all the pagan history of the day he says: “It is a festival for lust-filled people full of covetousness, not lovers.” He likewise said: “A recent survey conducted by pcm Lifestyle showed that when men were asked what they wanted for Valentine’s Day, 70 percent of those surveyed said all they wanted was sex.” That might be what Dennis Leap wants, but it is not what all men would say they wanted.
PCG will always focus on “here is the truth about” such and such day. This causes the reader to have doubts, then become isolated from the rest of society, finally becoming more firmly entrenched in the literature where fear overtakes them to the point that they end up believing if they are “not obedient” (i.e., to PCG government) they will be cursed and “struck down by God.” If this were true, everyone that left PCG (or who dared to observe Valentine’s Day), would be cursed and/or struck down by God. But because Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Galatians 3:13) having taking our punishment and guilt upon Himself, what Leap says is a lie.
Leap tells us: “…God has seven festivals—also known as love feasts.” This is another lie. The holy days observed in the O.T. were never referred to as “love feasts.” Got Questions in their article, “What is a love feast?” says: “A love feast or agape feast was a fellowship meal eaten by Christians in the early church.”
Leap finishes his article by saying “This Valentine’s Day, do something different: Open your Bible and begin to study Leviticus 23.” and that “will give you details concerning God’s festivals”–which evidently, according to Leap, are supposed to show us true love.
Leap knows to do nothing but lie and twist Scripture. The N. T. church is no longer under the Mosaic Law. Paul says in Galatians 3:10 that anyone who teaches a gospel that mixes law and grace is under a curse. So isn’t it PCG and ministers who are under a curse?
The site For What Saith the Scriptures? in their article, “Should Christians Celebrate Valentine’s Day?” says we really have no idea who exactly Saint Valentine was and historians disagree as to who he was–if he existed at all, even though it [Valentine’s Day] is “definitely attached to heathen Roman religion” but the brief background on history.com it says is “murky.” This article does not try and tell us what to do, except it mentions we should avoid commercialism. The decision as to whether or not to observe Valentine’s Day up to us and God. The article brings us not to God’s festivals, as Leap wants to do, but to see God’s unconditional love. “We look to Calvary’s cross, Christ’s finished crosswork, to see God’s love on clear display. His only begotten Son offering His life at Calvary so He could then offer us eternal life, that is the greatest gift.”
True love is found in Christ. There was nothing like that mentioned in Dennis Leap’s twisted article. –article critiqued by L. S.
Comment: Read ESN’s Q&A: Should we observe”pagan” holidays?
February 16, 2022
While listening to GF’s latest sermon given at HQ on February 5 (“The Antiochus / Obama Warfare”), I was just sickened when I realized where exactly HWA and subsequently GF modeled their organizations after.
In the sermon, GF said HWA wrote some powerful articles on communism in the early 50’s and 60’s. Please notice this quote–an exact quote–of GF quoting HWA describing communism:
“A ruthless totalitarian dictatorship. It is run with absolute power, a few men at the top, all of whom are completely subservient to one man who is dictator absolute. This one man dictatorship is supposed to be necessary because there may be different interpretations of the Marxist philosophy. Therefore, to prevent division they must have a supreme interpreter.”
The above quote came from an article by Herbert Armstrong in the 1962 Plain Truth:
“It is a ruthless, totalitarian dictatorship. It is run with absolute power by a few men at the top–all of whom are completely subservient to one man who is Dictator Absolute! This one-man dictatorship is supposed to be necessary because there may be different interpretations of the Marxist philosophy. Therefore, to prevent division, they must have a Supreme interpreter (“Communism, ‘Christianity’ and Double Talk” by Herbert W. Armstrong, February 1962 Plain Truth, p. 26)
If this doesn’t describes the PCG “church” government precisely, then nothing does! And just like communism, everyone is required to protect the government structure at all costs. Anyone who questions or stands up against that government and its injustices that the government inflicts, are immediately “dealt” with.
Upon further research from HWA’s own mouth. (Which I highly recommend everyone do). I came across a co-worker letter from February 1st, 1939. In this letter it shows HWA’s original form of governance–completely different from today. He later changed it when he realized he had to have complete control! [Note by ESN: You can also read it here: Did Christ Reorganize the Church? (February 1939 Good News article showing Herbert Armstrong condemned hierarchal church government in his early years.) [offsite article in PDF]
Then, notice a co-worker letter from November 24, 1967. In here, HWA describes in his own words how he began to study and research communism! Here’s a quote to get you started:
“I knew the Communist purpose and goal. I knew the Communists methods and tactics. I knew their philosophies and teachings. I knew how actual Party members are yielded completely to Communist Party discipline, obedient at any cost–willing to make any sacrifice for it.” (November 24, 1967 Brethren & Co-Worker Letter from Herbert W. Armstrong)
PCG members, did you know this?? Tell me you’re not living this? Prospective members do you know this??
HWA also stated in the above referenced co-worker letter that he had arranged to receive regular weekly bulletins, containing inside information in regard to communist’s activities in the USA.
“In the early years of The WORLD TOMORROW broadcast, beginning 1934, I had an arrangement with a secret investigator, working in connection with a major city police department, to receive regular weekly bulletins, containing inside information in regard to Communist activities in this country.” (November 24, 1967 Brethren & Co-worker Letter from Herbert W. Armstrong)
You can find these co-worker letters all over the internet, but I like to use this site because I know they are legitimate [Note by ESN: Dates to the co-worker letters are on the left side in the box.] This site has all HWA’s original material) Please do your research. Look into the history!
PCG government was designed after communism. HWA and GF may claim that communism is the counterfeit of God’s government. Nowhere in the Bible is this form of government described or used.
Note by ESN: Our section on Herbert W. Armstrong/Questioning HWA’s background will have links to how HWA studied into communism and also his studying Mein Kampf.
Reading HWA’s Co-Worker Letters Was Eye-Opening:
February 18, 2022
Shortly after we were kicked out of PCG, we went back and read from the beginning the co-worker letters by HWA. We were mind blown at what we were reading: the desperate attempts to get money, telling people to take out loans. How HWA covered for Garner Ted over and over again. The house in Lake Tahoe; the planes, personal drivers, salaries, extravagant trips and all the while telling the people they need to give more! And sacrifice more! It was shocking! All the predictions and failed prophecies he made. It was all very eye opening to us. –Former PCG members
GF and SF’s Pictures:
February 22, 2022
It’s so noticeable how GF and SF look in their pictures that this comes up from time to time. GF looks mean and gruff. One person recently told me that they felt GF “sneered” in his picture on his “church” site. While SF used to smile back in the days when he was younger and had a beard–believe it or not, according to images I found of him–today on some sites they are posting a younger photo of him (SF) that is not up to date as he is actually getting fat in his face now. Don’t be surprised if they don’t start posting a younger picture of Gerald Flurry just like PCG has done with HWA. Sincere people I’ve known always have a nice wide friendly smile on their faces. I can’t imagine what GF would look like if he actually smiled and showed his teeth. Seriously, though, I’m sure both of them smile idiotically when they are counting all the cash that comes in from those they see as the “suckers.” They are both so incredibly evil. How could someone not be who has no feeling at all for the innocent lives they are scamming and destroying? –P.
I Want to Leave PCG But the Man I’m Dating Wants to Stay:
February 24, 2022
The article by Cliff [Why It’s Hard to Leave Philadelphia Church of God] was really good and he is spot on with the way people think and feel being in the PCG. I want to leave, as I realize what PCG is really like and I don’t want to be under their control anymore. However, the man I am dating wants to stay, believing if we are patient God will work everything out and we will be together which is what I want, for us to be together. I love him and don’t want to be separated. So I feel torn between staying and hoping we can marry someday, or leaving and maybe never seeing him again or hoping he will leave as well. I suppose if I stay there, I may not be together with him anyway though and I don’t want to stay in the PCG anyway.
We were told we would never see our families again, we’d be kicked out and that we’d be doomed to live miserable lives if we decided to stay together and marry. –[name withheld]
Excerpts from our reply: “While in PCG (and WCG), we had the mindset of “God will work everything out.” Whenever we were disturbed with questions and problems that weren’t being solved, or didn’t seem to have an answer, the ministers would tell us these words, and in turn we would tell them to ourselves. In most cases it didn’t really give a solution and many people went on suffering.
“…. Your boyfriend will have to decide which is more important–PCG “government” (which means loyalty to Gerald Flurry’s decisions and putting the organization first)–or his love for you and his future children. I know you say you love him, but perhaps you might have a serious talk with him and find out what would be expected of you as his wife (submissive at all times? obeying everything he says? being under his control? etc.) …
“When PCG ministers tell you (or anyone) that you will be “doomed to live miserable lives” if you decide to stay together and marry, these words are what all controlling, exploitive groups tell their members if they are thinking of leaving. It is a fear method to keep people from leaving so that the leader can continue to financially exploit members.
“I would recommend that you read more articles on our site; e.g., Testimonies By Those Impacted by PCG … Our purpose is to help others. May Christ guide you in making the best decision.” [end of excerpts]
GF and SF Show No Empathy for Those Suffering in Ukraine:
February 25, 2022
I listened briefly to some of SF’s Trumpet Daily about Ukraine and read some of GF’s February 24 article in the PT. As usual, there was nothing showing any empathy for the people suffering in Ukraine, nor for the Americans stranded there. He doesn’t even have empathy for the members of his PCG. How on earth could he have empathy for anyone else? It was all about “Bible Prophecy Comes Alive in Ukraine!” (the title of his article) while having a graphic picture of a bloodied woman (no doubt to shock his readers). It is always about how we are “headed to WWIII.”
GF boasted that he had been warning about this for two decades. He labeled Putin as the prophesied “Prince of Russia” and wanted others to send away for his booklet (written in 2017) with that title. He said “Vladimir Putin is a sign, literally a SIGN, that Jesus Christ is about to return!” How could it be a sign when the Tribulation has not even begun? Christ’s second visible appearing won’t be until at the end of the 7-year Tribulation. But according to GF, we are always to be looking for a “sign.”
Then GF went into the “German-led Holy Roman Empire” and “the coming world war.” This is all supposed to be “good news” when it reality it is all meant to terrify his readers about the Great Tribulation and how “it is just a few short years away”–words exactly as HWA continually would say. That’s all the TD and PT articles are based on: sensationalism and fear–along with building excitement concerning future prophecies. Fear does not come from God (I John 4:18), but GF knows how to use it to manipulate people. –L. S.
Comment: Putin is another NWO globalist.
Fred Dattolo Perverts Ephesians 1 & 2:
February 27, 2022
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GF Gives Another Boring Antiochus Sermon:
March 4, 2022
GF’s sermon on February 20 was “Antiochus #2 – Son of Perdition.” I’m sure many are getting tired of these boring “Antiochus” sermons but are afraid to express disapproval. His voice was slow, included sniffling as usual, and didn’t reach the level of shouting as he’s known to do. He said Satan tries to get him in the wrong kind of mood before he gives one of these sermons on Antiochus.
Some crazy things he said:
“Satan is insane” and is “smitten with madness.” (Satan is not described as “insane” in the Bible, but is clever and intelligent (II Corinthians 2:11), transformed into an angel of light (II Corinthians 11:14) and is like a roaring lion (I Peter 5:8].)
“We’re all going to be Israel” (The Bible does not say this. Read: How is the Term Israel Used in the New Testament? which shows the church is not “spiritual Israel”) [offsite link]
“This Throne of David is going to unify the whole world.” (This “Throne” has been an obsession with GF for some time. Read: Gerald Flurry’s Insanity With the New Throne of David.)
“Everything we have prophesied has come to pass.” (To see how this isn’t true, read: Gerald Flurry and His False Trump Prophecies.)
“We have to get Jeroboam [Trump] back. That’s what Amos 7 is all about.” (To see how he tries to shoe-horn the O. T. into the N. T., read: Gerald Flurry and the Amos 7 Prophecy.)
“We are going then to be telling Mr. Trump something that he doesn’t know. We’re going to teach him about the House of David and the Throne of David and what is about to happen to this world!” (This is GF’s ego. Nothing is said about teaching others about Christ, His forgiveness, and salvation.)
And that’s going to be the wonderful conclusion we will be able to thunder to this world.” (God is the one that can “thunder,” not GF. Revelation 14:2.)
“We are so close to that last hour.” (GF has been repeating the words “last hour” for many years now.)
Dwight Falk Uses Clever Way to Increase Holy Day Offerings:
March 7, 2022
Dwight Falk, in his authoritarian and non-empathetic voice, gave a Sermonette: “Help Through Offerings” where he used a clever way to manipulate members into giving more money for their holy day offerings. He started off reading an email that he said they received from a lady in Canada who is a subscriber but not a member and read her words which said, “We really need our Prophet to speak on the Russian issue. Help, pastor Flurry!” He based his entire sermonette on this two sentence email and said this is how members’ holy day offerings help people like her (who are” crying out for help”) and that they (PCG) only have a “short time” before there is a famine of the Word. He quoted Jesus’ words in John 9:4 about working “before the night cometh” to insinuate PCG only had a short time left.
He also quoted Ezekiel 33:33: “And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them” to associate the words “prophet” and “among them” with GF. Even though GF takes upon himself the name “Ezekiel” as one of his many titles, Falk conveniently didn’t mention that even though the people in Ezekiel’s day would sit and listen to Ezekiel when he was prophesying about the fall of Jerusalem (which happened), it had no effect whatsoever on the people, as they didn’t heed what he said.
So what is GF going to get out of all this if America is destroyed? Only a smug satisfaction that “he was right”? Hoping people will say, “Oh, GF was a true prophet?” And where will GF be at this time? Hiding in an underground bunker somewhere? Overseas at Edstone? For certain, he won’t be in the place of safety in Adullam. Most will not even remember GF except his followers who would no doubt be in a panic. I think of Psalms 118:8: “It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.” This whole thing is a crock of nonsense from a power-mad leader and is only to keep the money flowing into their coffers. –Anonymous
Was HWA Influenced by the Practices of Edward Bernays?
March 8, 2022
There has recently been some discussion on various sites that follow WCG splinter group news about HWA’s possible influence from Communist (Marxist) philosophy.
I remember reading in his autobiography about being an advertising man and trying to write effective headlines for the soap industry (or perhaps it was dry-cleaning).
There was another prominent thinker around this time, Edward Bernays, who is considered the ‘father of public relations’. Bernays was also heavily influenced by Marxist thought.
Bernays was actually quite nefarious, and wrote about bending the public’s will by shaping the narrative. He was less concerned about effective communication than brain washing the masses.
My question is: do you know of any mentions of Edward Bernays in HWA’s writings, or any other insinuation that HWA may have been influenced by the practices of Bernays? –Former PCG member [name withheld]
Reply: Our section Herbert W. Armstrong/”Questioning HWA’s background” has links that show HWA studied Communism.
HWA (according to his autobiography) wrote headlines for the soap industry, not dry-cleaning.
Edward Bernays used propaganda to condition the masses. I have not found that he is mentioned in HWA’s writings; however, HWA definitely used propaganda techniques from the very beginning. (Do a search for the word propaganda on our site and it will come up in many places.) Whether HWA was influenced by the practices of Edward Bernays, I do not know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was.
Flurry in Jerusalem:
March 11, 2022
I just heard that “King Flurry” is in Jerusalem. He left on Sunday March 6th and will be returning Sunday March 13th. –[name withheld]
Wayne Turgeon and GF’s Messed Up View of Bible Prophecy:
March 12, 2022
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March 15, 2022
Here are some math facts to consider about GF’s jet plane: (Gerry=GF; Steve=SF)
1. Gerry’s G450 holds 4,370 US gallons of fuel.
2. It gets 5000 miles per tank.
3. OKC to Jerusalem is 8,663 miles.
According to globalair.com, the average cost per gallon of jet fuel (in the central USA) is $5.18/gallon. To fill Gerry’s 4370 gallon tank for approximately 5000 miles costs $22,636.00. Jerusalem is approximately 8660 miles away. So a one-way trip, fuel only, no international fees, pilots costs, airport fees etc., is a cool $39,205.00. Round trip is $78,410.00 fuel only!
(These numbers are not exact but are definitely well in the ball park)
I was in the PCG for many decades and I can assure you there are very few people who even make $78,410.00 a year.
While Gerry is gallivanting to the Middle East on the members’ dime, most struggle to fill their tanks, put food on the table and put off dental care. And for what?? A library in Jerusalem. He’s going to educate the Jews on their history. He’s trying to hobnob with some archaeologist, following in HWA’s footsteps. This involves payoffs to insert a few students into a dig so he can fool the members into thinking they are a part of something significant in order to keep them chasing the ever-moving horizon, and lining his, Steve’s, and Laura’s pockets.
At the moment, a business class ticket from Oklahoma City to Jerusalem is $4,900.00 round trip. For under 5K, Gerry can fly comfortably, enjoying all the food he desires, and can get as drunk as he likes without having to worry about bribing any Oklahoma police officers. –Former PCG member [name withheld]
Comment: Read: Why “That Prophet” Really Needed a Corporate Jet (letter to ESN)
GF in a Boring Sermon Gives Updates About His Jerusalem Trip:
March 19, 2022
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Why Didn’t SF Get Sick on the Same Food?
March 20, 2022
Regarding the previous letter about GF getting violently sick in a restaurant and thought he was going to die. I almost dropped on my knees and said Hallelujah, but then I realized his son would take the helm. I think this “getting sick” occurrence is so odd because if it was food poisoning he should have gone to a doctor. (On the other hand, I’m sure he has a doctor in the wings to come to his room). Also, why didn’t SF get sick on the same food?? Something is fishy in Denmark. I wouldn’t put it past SF to slip something into GF’s food (or a drink) to do away with his dad, so he could take over the reigns. I’m sure he’s itching for full control of the PCG empire. I wonder what path SF would take if GF did kick the bucket? Same as GF, or change things up a bit? Maybe I’m awful, but I think it was a shame GF lived to talk about this. –Impacted by loved one in PCG
I Am Finding So Many Things Wrong With the PCG:
March 23, 2022
I wish to thank the ESN for exposing the PCG. I have been in fear for years.
I know that CDs are being burned; the ministers have been moving around. But I don’t know what happened to the minister, Jim Cocomise. Last I heard, he just went somewhere else. Now I believe that Cal Culpepper is in Texas, replacing Cocomise. I find that suspicious as I was told that there were not supposed to be any more ministers moving around since it was near “The End.”
I have also been finding things wrong with the doctrine. It’s one thing to make a simple mistake or accident because we are all human, but another to preach the doctrine and live against it with the knowledge of doing so. [Here are some things:]
Medicine and healing, yet alternative medicine is allowed; i.e., Gerald Flurry’s lemon water for health. Also, GF had his leg “wrapped” for awhile. He has a circulation or vein problem. Laura Turgeon (GF’ daughter) had her last baby, Micha via C-section in the hospital.
And this “church” claims to follow Herbert Armstrong’s teachings. HWA always had to correct what he preached. He had to always change or edit what he said and blames those who followed him. This cannot be the one true church. Especially the medical doctrine.
The unaccredited college [Herbert W. Armstrong College] that trains people to “live,” and for men to join around the ministry. Even when there are not supposed to be any new ministers anymore because it is “The End” as claimed by members.
The failed prophecies or “it wasn’t meant to be interpreted that way. Not in a literal sense.”
There are so many things.
I have found more peace with the knowledge that the PCG is a lie. I thank the ESN and everyone writing their letters for helping me re-evaluate my life. I now pray that my loved ones get out. May God help them. –Impacted by PCG [name withheld]
Hardships for Older Members in PCG:
March 24, 2022
In the PCG, 60% of the membership are 50 years of age or older. It a hardship for these older members that are on a fixed income, especially since GF is going to expect his usual “large offering” for the upcoming holy days. These members are already paying an unbiblical tithe, and some are needing to drive long distances to attend services, which is even an extra hardship because of the high gas prices. I pray more of them will wake up from their blindness and realize they can be free of these burdens and have a meaningful, loving relationship with a God who truly loves them. –[name withheld]
What Caused Me to Leave PCG:
March 25, 2022
In reading others’ stories, I wanted tell mine and what was the final nail in the coffin to my leaving PCG. … [name withheld]
NOTE: Read this person’s story: “Elderly Member in PCG Gaslighted.”
Member Fears “We’re All Going to Die” Since Covid is Spread on Flowers:
March 26, 2022
My 88 year old mother-in-law is a member of PCG. She told me yesterday that we are all going to die from Covid because it is being spread on flowers. I left her son over a year ago, he would not join, although his brother did. I have heard so much nonsense over 33 years it is astounding.
Many times I have heard my husband ask her a question about the Bible and her reply would be that “Mr. Armstrong said this or Mr. Flurry said that,” but not what the Bible said because every thing was misinterpreted. I am grateful I grew up in a Methodist church and learned of the true love of Jesus and his amazing grace. –Impacted by loved one in PCG
Had it With All This Fear and Lies:
March 27, 2022
GF’s “one true church” is based on two things: big lies and bigger fear. I can’t help but see a parallel between their constant rhetoric and the outbreak of Covid. We were first told (with Covid), “We’re are all going to die!” With PCG it’s “You’re are going to die if you don’t return to the Law and aren’t in PCG!”
I’ve so had it with all this fear and lies. It’s not about health or saving our own hides; it’s about control and taking away our freedoms. More people are getting wise to it.
GF & SF are constantly pushing what HWA would say: “America is going to be destroyed by a nuclear bomb and those remaining will be taken as slaves to Germany.” Equally, these frauds in PCG will take some little nit-picky thing that they say HWA predicted and then proclaim, “He was right!” [Read: “The Philadelphia Trumpet is Boasting” and especially the reply.] HWA, GF & SF may go down in history as three of the biggest liars there ever were, especially considering the number of ruined lives.
If we have Jesus in our day to day lives, there shouldn’t be any need for all this fear. Instead, we should have hope, but not the “hope” that GF booms out at the beginning of each Trumpet program, which sounds so asinine! Jonathan Brentner has concisely written on his blog time and again that we are getting closer to the Tribulation. That may well be true. I miss Don Koenig, who was very insightful, although he has been quite ill.
We’ve been fed so many lies, I can’t even begin to cover them all. –A.R.
Comment from ESN: Don Koenig was/is a much better source for prophecy than SF or GF. We have linked to many articles by him. His latest post is here: “Will the Russian invasion of Ukraine end with the war of Ezekiel 38 & 39?” (This is also linked from What’s New)
Daryl Hope Tells What the Ten Directives for the End Times Are:
March 27, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
GF and SF Are Hypocrites:
March 27, 2022
Laura Turgeon (GF’s daughter) had her last baby, Micha via C-section in the hospital. Amy, SF’s wife had both babies at home in very dysfunctional setting. I mean who in their right mind wants their brother there, front and center to see the birth?? And he was just gushing about what an amazing experience it was to watch his niece and nephew being born. That’s just sick and dysfunctional.
Also a much lesser known fact, because they desperately tried to hide this, when SF and Amy’s daughter was about 4 or 5, they took her in to have her tonsils removed. She was having problems with her ears. So while everyone else is told to rely on God and let God heal them, don’t go to doctors, etc., off goes SF and Amy with Vienna. So hypocritical!! –Former PCG member
GF and His Babbling Co-worker/Dear Brethren Letter:
March 28, 2002
I heard that Bible Study by Deryl Hope. [see March 27 letter] He ended by going over, in boring detail, all the 7 churches in Revelation.
In his January 27, 2022 co-worker/dear brethren letter, GF, like a babbling madman, took 11 pages to cover lampstands, lamps, Laodiceans; how Jerusalem is important; how they are important, how they are royalty; how the church is royalty; how the church has a commission.
On page 10 he said, “It is getting very close to Christ’s return. We have a lot of work to do in a short time. An important part of that involves our work in Jerusalem.”
On page 11 he ended with, “We have to go the world and Israel especially, and the cities of Judah, and say Behold your God! That means Jesus Christ is about to return! That is the main message we deliver to them. What could be more exciting and wonderful? BEHOLD YOUR GOD!”
That’s all he can focus on right now. –S.
Feast Sites So Far for US:
March 30, 2022
There will only be 5 Feast sites in the US this year instead of 6 and the only non US sites listed are Tweed Heads, AU and Baguio City, Philippines [added 5-12-22] [international sites not open for transfer].
This will be the last year for the Poconos and Phoenix, AZ. They won’t be going back to PA next year either.
Here are the Feast sites so far for this year for the US:
Panama City Beach, FL
Tannersville (Poconos), PA
Sault Ste. Marie, ON, Canada
Edmonton, AB, Canada
Many PCG Members Experiencing Health Problems:
April 1, 2022
It was announced at a Bible study in PCG recently that many members are experiencing “health trials” (i.e., health problems) right now. You can guarantee that they are not going to doctors since they are taught against it. I know of only a few that have seen a doctor, but that is without the minister’s knowledge. Many are choosing to suffer instead of getting help. I’m sure there will be an unknown number who will die needlessly, yet we won’t hear about it, except for the usual “they didn’t have enough faith.” GF and SF, and who knows how many other hypocritical ministers, go to doctors since it is always “do as I say, but not as I do.” –[name withheld]
Brad Macdonald Lectures Singles on Serving Others in Place of Safety:
April 3, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
PCG Similar to Scientology in Its Tactics:
April 4, 2022
In re-watching the documentary, “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief,” its similarity with the PCG is remarkable.
Let me first qualify that in terms of core belief (purpose and doctrine) there is no comparison and Scientology is totally cuckoo. But the tactics of governance and control are incredibly similar. For any ex-PCG members, I dare you to watch it and not immediately make the connection as though you were watching a documentary which could easily be made about the PCG.
To note some of the most obvious similarities:
- Never ending undulation and worship of a dead man. PCG is obsessed with HWA (died January 16, 1986). Scientology worships L. Ron Hubbard (LRH) (died January 24, 1986) as though he is still alive.
- Ecstatic claims made when they won their court battle. Scientology declared “the war is over” as they avoided a billion dollar tax bill. GRF claims divine intervention and prophetic fulfillment because they could print a version of MOA.
- Both have sunk millions in building an exclusive compound.
- PCG’s use of catchphrases like “disfellowship” and “marked” being their version of Scientology’s “suppressive person.”
- “Us versus the world” mentality and exclusivity for members only to be granted eternal positions of power
- “No contact” rules of PCG being their version of Scientology’s “disconnect” when cutting off anyone who left, got kicked out, or disagrees.
- Preventing members from having contact with the world, or reading anything that might criticize the church. Members seem ignorant to what’s going on around them. Questioning the church or its leaders is strictly prohibited for fear of being disfellowshipped. Members must have unwavering loyalty to a man.
- Always saying that “time is almost up” and “last minute of the last hour,” to keep members loyal to a carrot on a stick.
- Prolific writing where members simply cannot read or digest any other literature. Have a look at the massive list of PCG literature every member is required to read, re-read and memorize. That is added to HWA’s entire catalogue. LRH is credited with the Guinness World Record for most prolific writer because of his years writing science fiction.
- Always pushing for more and more income from its members. Leaders live in absolute luxury while no assistance is ever given to the poor. Just keep milking them.
- As one ex-Scientologist said, “we would have died for the old man [LRH].” This is exactly how most, if not all PCG members would think about GRF. This is what they are being conditioned to think when some crazy announcement is made.
- No matter how cruel a minister is, the finger of blame is always on yourself.
- Claiming to have a great positive presence in the world when those who know you think you are a crazy little cult.
As I said earlier, there is no doctrinal comparison between the two, but the blend of worshiping a corpse (HWA vs. LRH) and mad hunger for power (Flurry vs. Miscavige) is remarkably similar. The devil’s tactics can be found everywhere. –B. A.
Comments: Most destructive groups use similar tactics. See: Identifying Marks of an Abusive Group. PCG members not only have a fear of disfellowshipment, but a fear of other things such as missing the Place of Safety and ending up in the Great Tribulation, fear of being cast into the Lake of Fire, and the fear of losing God. For more of their fears, read: “Why do they stay in these groups?” (on our Q&A). Scientology, in terms of its exploitation and control, could also have applied to the Worldwide Church of God.
Feast Sites Show PCG’s Population Shrinking:
April 8, 2022
You’re still doing good work in exposing the offshoots, specifically the PCG. I appreciate that a lot. And I most certainly appreciate the letter-sender detailing their Feast sites. [see 3-30 letter] This is a good gauge of how their population is shrinking, not growing. I would appreciate it if you could give us continuous updates, especially non-US sites. Thanks and appreciate what you do. –S.
Left PCG and Never Been Happier:
April 9, 2022
Thank you Exit Support Network™, creators of this site, for providing an avenue for real truth and leading people to Christ.
It is too many to mention how much we have been transformed in our thinking by the writers that you have here and others you so generously have given.
I am writing now so as to personally thank you all for this great benefit of finding truth. I would love to especially thank Kelly Marshall and William Hohmann.
I have left the PCG, and have never been happier.
Thank you all! –[name withheld]
My Life Became a Living Nightmare After GF’s Abuse:
April 12, 2022
I’m probably the reason GF left the Worldwide Church of God in Oklahoma City so fast. My husband (now my ex) and I had been trying to counsel for marriage issues. Then on a holy day, I was in the mother’s room with several other women, listening to Flurry’s sermon. And I told the whole bunch that he was not following headquarters. I was crying. Someone left the room and his wife came back she never said a word.
Time passed. Until right before the Feast of Tabernacles that I had talked my husband into going to talk with GF about our problems. Flurry left my husband to judge my attitude to see if I needed to be out out of the “church.” My husband came home and a fight proceeded with me calling my folks who came up in the middle of the night to get me and the kids. My parents lived [clipped] miles away. Several days passed. And my husband called and talked to my mother. If I was not back at the house by a certain time to take Flurry’s phone call, I would be out “out of the church.” I went back and he let me know I was undermining his authority.
I forgot, but remembered just now. Flurry had every deacon and elder and their wives after the incident sit in the mother’s room to make sure no one else talked. My life became a living nightmare. Not only at services. But at my home. It was like a battlefield. I later was diagnosed with PTSD. –[name withheld]
Comment: This person has received a personal response. PTSD is very common after suffering extended abuse in PCG (or any related controlling offshoot). It is covered here on our site: Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
PCG Talking About Our Past Sins:
April 16, 2022
During Days of Unleavened Bread GF and his ministers like to talk about how Christ only died for our past sins. (Romans 3:25) Do you have anything to refute this? –N. K.
Reply: This has been added to our Q &A under “Did Christ die for only our past sins?” which then links to a 2020 letter where Brian Davis talked about this during the Days of Unleavened Bread. The letter is entitled: “Messed Up View of Sin by GF” and will explain this verse. This topic is also covered on several other places on our site.
PCG Coerces Members for More Money During Days of Unleavened Bread:
April 22, 2022
I was able to hear the Offertory for 2021 that PCG uploaded for members since they only upload sermons from the previous year. I am sure that this year the Offertory was no different. It would be good if you could add this to the 2021 letters for April 3:
On the Last Day of Unleavened Bread, which was a double Sabbath, in the AM, the Offertory was announced by Fred Dattolo. Here are some of the things he said as he coerced members into giving more money to PCG.
“I’m going to ask you to part with some of your hard-earned money to sacrifice for God’s Work.” He told them to “realize how much we are helping people” and then he read an email that he said was “received just a few weeks before.” This “email” was so lavish in praise that one could easily tell it was made up. And he said they get “thousands like it.”
Dattolo talked about “loving the world” when he knows nothing about it since PCG has broken up countless families.
“We are giving offerings because we love people.” He said “God shares.” (Therefore, members should “share” their money.) He even said they should replace the word “God” in John 3:16 where it says “God so loved the world that he gave…” with their name. “We are imbued with God’s love and that’s why we give offerings.” He told how this takes sacrifice.
Few realize their offerings are going into the leader’s pockets. And any money used for broadcasting the Key of David or mailing out their Trumpet magazine is for the purpose of recruiting more co-workers and members so that they will send more money to the leader’s pockets, especially GF and SF’s pockets.
“We have truth that will save lives.” He said that in the September/October 2014 Royal Vision Gerald Flurry said this Work is going to save lives and that 50% of the Laodiceans are going to repent (in the Tribulation) and they couldn’t do it without PCG’s message and how God is “using them.”
It was all about what PCG had done and the cost of all of it to mail out.
H.D. offerings last year increased more than 14% than the year before he said and he hinted that he didn’t know if they could top that this year.
“We need to keep this up” he said. “If we sacrifice for God now in this life, we will be Christ’s bride forever.”
This is totally opposite of what the Bible says. The gift of God (eternal life) is a free gift. We cannot pay for a gift. But those in PCG must earn their salvation by various works of the Law. –Anonymous
Comment: We have placed the above letter on the 2021 letters under April 3.
Countless People Have Benefited:
April 22, 2022
There are countless people who have benefited from from your site in some way. –R. U.
HQ’s Lake Level is Way Down:
April 25, 2022
When I checked PCG headquarters’ webcam, it shows that their lake is way down. I can’t help but think that God is punishing them. They are experiencing some of that drought OK is having. Here is the link to go see the “shrinking lake”: Live Weather Camera located on top of HWAC Radio Tower. Keep in mind that this image is updated every 5 minutes so if it is viewed at night you won’t be able to see it. Even if they do get some light rain (which is forecast for next week), it isn’t going to fill their lake up anytime soon. –Impacted by loved one in PCG
Janet Dattolo, Wife of Fred Dattolo, Dies:
April 29, 2022
Janet Dattolo wife of Fred Dattolo died April 19 of cancer. She had been suffering a lot and probably received no pain medication. She died in her home with family around her. A memorial service is planned for May 1. –Anonymous
Comment: Read: Philadelphia Church of God is a Sick System! which lists several other wives that have died in PCG. Also read April 6, 2008 letter to ESN which tells how several wives of PCG ministers and deacons have died of several forms of cancer, or various illness and maladies
Ryan Malone and His “Give and Get Way” Sermon:
May 2, 2022
Ryan Malone jabbered away in a April 23 sermon directed at singles entitled “Harmony” where he covered the “give and the get way” (coined by HWA) and the “principles of fundamentals of good relationships.” He said the subject was “a spiritual one.”
This sermon, as most PCG sermons, wasn’t worth giving the time of day to and even though he said it was “not about romantic relationships” it was definitely “philosophical” ramblings, throwing in a comparison to what he knew about music.
No sermon has ever been given without quoting HWA, so he had to quote from (drum roll) The Incredible Human Potential and mentioned HWA’s book on The Missing Dimension in Sex which, from my understanding, was only for married couples to read.
“Two can’t walk together unless one is in control.”
Do you still have that article about putting the give way to the test? –M. A.
Comment: That article was recently posted as We Were Promised We Would Be Blessed by Tithing (originally entitled “We Put the ‘Give Way’ to the Test” on our first site.) We have now added those last words as a sub title.
Another Split That Thinks It Is the Philadelphia Church of Revelation:
May 3, 2022
All the WCG splits out there are overwhelming. When I wrote how I discovered one that called themselves “The Worldwide Church of God” [See April 28 letter above], I later came across another one that I thought at first was GF’s PCG, but then I realized they called themselves only “The Philadelphia Church” without the words “of God” on the end.
In Revelation we read that the messages John gave to those seven churches are addressed unto “the angel” of the church not “to such and such church” and the churches are either addressed as “the church of” (i.e., Ephesus; the Laodiceans) or “the church in” (Smyrna; Pergamos; Thyatira; Sardis; Philadelphia (NIV says in Laodicea). No words “of God” tacked on to the end.
If HWA hadn’t named his church the “Radio Church OF GOD” when he first started out, I seriously doubt if many of these Armstrong splits would have “of God” at the end of their name. You can usually recognize them by those words “of God” at the end or “Church of God” at the beginning. There are so many splits today–even those that cloak themselves as being “educational”–that it is no telling anymore what they have named themselves, plus many are now defunct.
But getting back to the church that calls themselves “The Philadelphia Church,” that would be a more accurate name. Nevertheless, it is still another splinter group of WCG and has very similar doctrines, some of which are quite heretical. The founder of the site is now dead although his wife has tried to maintain it.
It truly is sickening the twisted, dead-end path one man, Herbert Armstrong, has taken deceived people down. –A. R.
Comment: As we say in our article “Where Is the True Church?” those who have placed their faith and trust in Christ Jesus alone as their personal Savior are already in the “true church.” (I John 5:13) An individual does not have to become a part of, or join, a specific church or denomination in order to receive eternal life.
Gates Spreading Fear Porn Again:
May 3, 2022
B. Gates has come out with a warning that a “more deadly variant could emerge” that will be “more fatal than the other variants” and “we haven’t even seen the worst of it” because it might “mutate again” and it “would be even more transmissive and even more fatal.” Sorry, I’m not buying his bull anymore. More was let out of the bag when he told where we are headed: “To tackle the situation in advance, he stressed the need for increased global surveillance.” That smacks of the NWO which is coming. Instead of succumbing to fear porn from evil NWO globalists, we must maintain our hope in the imminent return of our Savior for His church. –T. S.
Comment: For those interested, there is a new offsite article by Jonathan Brentner linked on What’s New, entitled: Transhumanism: The Evil Force Behind the New World Order.
PCG’s Constantly Shrinking Membership:
May 6, 2022
The only PCG site they are allowing for international transfers this year is England. They have also reduced the number of American feast sites. With their constantly shrinking membership, they know that they can keep more money headed their direction in excess 2nd tithe etc, if they keep the majority of the people close to home and not spending more on international travel. –T. C.
Only One International Transfer Open for PCG Members This Year:
May 6, 2022
Yes, Gerald Flurry said those words [see previous letter] in his sermon that he gave on the Last Day of Unleavened bread. Anyway, he said the only site open for international transfer was England. They are having a site in Australia but according to GF it’s not open to transfer. too.
Also. it’s funny that Jerusalem is so important to them and God, and they are going to be doing such great work there–but they can’t even have a feast there. –G. I.
GF Talking About Curses:
May 7, 2022
GF in his sermon on Last Day of Unleavened Day (“God’s Archaeology Project”) told how “God” was behind this work in Jerusalem and how important it was. He was also reading from the curses in Deuteronomy and talking about the Law of Moses, which was ridiculous. Also, how he said, “We are here because we have rejected the curses.” He said, “We are about ready to head into the promised land!” He is totally off his rocker. –Anonymous
PCG Brings Over Irish Dancer John Carey:
May 10, 2022
I think most members don’t realize this, and the ones who do are silenced due to the punishment that would come for even questioning it, let alone speaking up about it. But during spring break the “church” brought John Carey over from the UK to instruct the kids. John is an Oxford educated, Irish Dancer with his own school in Birmingham. He was Michael Flatley’s (Lord of the Dance lead) understudy.
I give you his background so people can fully understand where their hard earned money is going! This guy is expensive! But don’t forget to include not only his time, talent and instruction, but also his travel, accommodations and food!
While they will try to dupe their membership into thinking Amy’s and Jude’s little dance show is “the Work,” it simply is not.
Most of these members sacrifice dental care, basic needs and necessities etc.–for this! It’s so sad! –W. H.
Feast Site in Philippines:
May 12, 2022
PCG will have a feast site in Baguio City, Philippines. They have to have one In the Philippines as a good portion of the PCG membership is there. According to GF last week, the only one open for transfer is the UK. He didn’t say there are no international sites, just that they are just not allowing transfers. –Anonymous
Pulling the Shade Up to See Ourselves:
May 13, 2022
I just read the #43 Crazy Statement by a WCG minister who once told someone if God pulled the shade up they wouldn’t be able to stand themselves. That could apply to exactly what a PCG minister would say and makes me think about what if God pulled up the shade on one of them? (especially GF) Would they be able to stand themselves? They are so hardened, and their conscience so seared, they probably wouldn’t even care. –H. C.
May 13, 2022
The PCG is now paying Village Travel company, to drop a bus load of senior citizens off at their PCG HQ, as part of a southern bus tour.
This is awful because:
1. They are specifically targeting seniors! It is well known that senior members in their organization are their main source of income. Mostly through the estates that they pressure them to leave the PCG. Many families have been left little to no inheritance because of this and, if you know the Bible, this is 100% contrary to what it teaches.
2. This manipulates the members into thinking they are a large, impactful, impressive organization. If you were to interview random members, the majority of them are unaware that their total world wide membership is less than 4000 people, and an extreme few, worldwide, have ever even heard of them.
If you would like to contact the tour company and share with them how this cult has impacted you and your family, or share some of their extreme beliefs and behaviors they have, and hopefully help to prevent other senior citizens from being targeted, they can be reached at:
3021 NE 50th
Oklahoma City, Ok
An email contact form is available on:
–Former PCG member (name withheld)
“King Flurry” and “Prince Flurry” Show Their Ugly Mugs:
May 15, 2022
I was shown some pictures (from someone who recently distanced themselves from PCG) of “King Flurry” that was on PCG’s Peaceful Storms’ website and which were taken at the recent Senior Dinner and so wanted to forward to you. I was told by this person: “The only reason he is smiling/laughing is because everyone else is and he wouldn’t want to look different. He is getting bald! Sure doesn’t look like those younger pictures of himself on the PCG website.”
That is true because they want to hide his ugly mug from the public, but at least I got to see these pictures.
I also was sent a current picture (by the same person) of “Prince Flurry” at an AC Ladies Gala and a picture of some sad looking faces in the group. My contact said, “He looks horrid in that beard and with that scowly face!”
That is also true since SF is sporting a beard now. I know you can’t post these pictures but I wanted you to see them and to read my opinion. –[name withheld]
PCG and Their Color-Coordinated Seniors:
May 16, 2022
I don’t know if anyone has ever noticed, but it’s a weird thing PCG always does. Probably for uniformity and control and to foster a sense of belonging. But In the picture of Gerry [GF] and his wife with the oh, so tiny (12), graduating senior class, you may notice they are all color coordinated. Navy blue and pink. Probably some of the men spent money they didn’t have to go out and buy a pink tie for the occasion, or the women pink jackets, dresses with pink flowers in them, etc. So stupid, so controlling, and so sick. –[name withheld]
PCG Ministers Say Foolish Things in Their Sermons:
May 20, 2022
Those who have left PCG and studied law and grace, having their minds opened and are being freed from false teachings, will recognize the foolishness of some of the things PCG ministers say.
A sermon was given by Wik Heerma right after the Days of Unleavened Bread and was entitled, “Demystifying the Basic Mystery.” PCG continually quotes Herbert Armstrong. In it he told how HWA said: “The Holy Spirit in us is merely God’s law in action in our lives.” [False! The Holy Spirit in us will show us the things of Christ. (“All things that the Father has are Mine. Because of this I said that He [the Spirit] will take from what is Mine and will reveal it to you.” –John16:15 AMP) A good article is: What does the Holy Spirit do? (from Got Questions) Christians are no longer under the Law which was given to the nation of Israel. Read our article: Are We Still Under the Law in Spite of Grace?
Heerma went on to declare: “The Bible is not something we pick our way through, guessing what applies to our lives and what doesn’t.” [Comment: But in PCG’s case it is picking one’s way through the Bible as Scriptures are taken out of context and twisted in order to say what GF wants them to say.] For more understanding see our section on Grace & Law. –sermon reviewed by AJW
Joel Hilliker and His “Jonah” Bible Study:
May 21, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
GF Sermon and Church-Wide Fast Declared for July 3:
May 22, 2022
Here are some things GF said in his recent sermon “Lincoln’s Self Education”:
A small dig in Jerusalem will begin June 1.
GF presumptuously declared that Abraham Lincoln “did not have God’s Holy Spirit,” even though he “studied the Bible,” “knew the Bible,” and was “trying to bring God in the picture in his own way.” According to “King” Flurry, no one in history that hasn’t been in the “true church” (as defined by HWA) could have God’s Spirit. It is a historical fact that Lincoln looked to God many times and prayed to Him. One informative article is: “Lincoln’s Faith in God” by Gordon Leidner of “Great American History.”
He said Lincoln “loved the Bible in his own way.” With GF it’s always about how other Christians (not in PCG or the “true church”) do things, especially anything spiritual, “in their own way.”
While he talked about “freedom and equality,” those inside PCG have neither.
He said, “we can die spiritually” (which is untrue for those with God’s spirit) and brought up the Sardis church and how they were “going to be blotted out of the book of life.” Where in the world do we find that about Sardis in the Bible? We don’t.
GF has declared a church-wide fast for July 3. He said they “have had some real sickness problems in the church and we need to beseech God for stronger faith and more healing.” He said an x-ray examination in March of his son (Stephen) “revealed severe damage in his right hip, joint, and also a significant degree of degeneration in his leg bone and he needs to be healed.” He also said that “Andrew Locher has type 2 diabetes with nephropathy which affects his feet and hands with numbness.” Then he mentioned a few other members with severe physical problems. Some of the AC students have had health problems also.
–sermon critiqued by Anonymous
Lack of Agape Love in PCG:
May 22, 2022
I am a suspended member from the PCG for the 4th to 6th time. Perhaps the PCG is the end time church of God, that may be true or not, I’m still investigating. I was never in doubt until this last suspension. But I have been attending on and off for 6 years and I have found a serious flaw; the absolute utter complete absence of Agape Love. There is no love in this “church.” When a person is suspended they are cut off. They are cast off. There is no minister reaching out to help them, to counsel.
I love God! Imperfectly, as I very well know!! I need correction, true. There is the government of God upheld very well, give them that. But what did Christ say Himself? “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.” (Matthew 23:23)
True, don’t leave the other undone, but where in God’s precious name is mercy and His own true Love. I receive absolutely no counseling, no help in time of need to figure out why I keep failing. Even on Little House On the Prairie Reverend Alden was always reaching out to the brethren to help [them]. Dear God, there is no hope for the weak brethren. This “church” is only for the strong, strong of their own strength. They have no idea what it means to be weak. They do not have the slightest idea what it means to be weak and need God for everything, even to figure out what’s right and wrong. They are continuing on their own strength. –[name withheld]
Comment: This person has received a personal reply. They later emailed several times with questions and began researching and investigating more on the ESN site.
Surprised to Hear of the Death of Janet Dattolo:
May 24, 2022
I was surprised to hear of Janet Dattolo’s death by cancer. Fred Dattolo was my minister back in Canada. I only ever met Janet at the feasts as she did not travel with him across the country. They had their youngest living with them at the time. His eldest daughter was at HWAC and there was the son Mike whom I never met but Fred used to brag about how smart his son was and that he was making good money. I know when the PCG was into the Kombucha phase all the wives of ministers were making their own Kombucha and she was as well. When they would get into these health kicks from HQ, many ministers’ wives out in the field would do the same. –Ex-PCG
Comment: Some have felt the deaths of so many minister’s wives is due in large part to the ongoing stress they are under for constant performance, along with lack of medical attention. Some of them have committed suicide. See April 29, 2022 letter and comments above: “Janet Dattolo, Wife of Fred Dattolo, Dies.”
Trumpet Blows Their Own Horn Regarding Current Sorrow of Mass Murders:
May 26, 2022
The carrion sniffing jackal, SF could not restrain himself from asserting his typical pathetic “my father told you so” take on the Uvalde, Texas mass murder before the victims’ bodies went completely cold.
Not much difference between the Trumpet‘s “tomorrow’s news today” and the bloodthirsty mainstream media’s vultures, spiritually.
Where is there any sincere mourning for these new murders in America except for the Trumpet‘s usual dramatized outrage, which only serves to put the fake church on an imaginary “moral high ground” and “spiritual” pedestal? Oh, but all those “carnal” people killed at the Texas school were not getting “God’s education,” so the PC[g]’s ministry can only allow themselves to demonstrate a minimal bit of “natural affection” towards the innocent victims, lest they may possibly be seen participating in the observances of “the world.”
In regards to prayers for the victims’ families, will the PC[g] ministers be quoting one of their favorites this coming weekend, “Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.” Jeremiah 7:16. Although they may encourage prayer to God for the blessing of their religious infomercials like the Key of David, and the Trumpet Daily, and for more money to mysteriously flow into “HQ.” The greedy guts are rumbling there, as the Trumpet radio so falsely declares, “We said it first!” Meanwhile, they look down upon slaughtered children and teachers.
These kinds of “newscasters” are more despicable than the communist left wing’s political buzzards now pushing for more of their kind of “gun control.” (Meaning: using unlawful guns and overreaching government agency weaponization to control the people, but not allowing the lawful people to control themselves nor the guns they own.)
The very same values that PC[g] ministers believe set them above the rest of humanity, within their own delusional estimation of having the most insightful “biblical” perspective on some of the most horrible news on earth, including school massacres, actually reveals that their self-exalted ministry exists at an even lower level than those “unconverted” or “carnal” people who can only seem to stir up “natural affection” and “maudlin” human emotion towards murder victims.
Strange how the Trumpet‘s “special take” on the news, which news, by the way, comes from other world news sources first, must be regarded as naturally superior to news outlets of “the world.” The Trumpet only blows their own horn, saying, “You’ll hear this nowhere else.” Even though the Trumpet Daily spends most of the hour quoting and reading articles first written by “unconverted” and “worldly educated” authors, and playing clips recorded by real people who arrived at the scene first, while they lounge far away in the clean green acres of OK. Oh, but, “We said it first!” That is the greater issue of the day to be excited over, than any true outrage or agonizing lamentation for murdered children and teachers.
Not much more remorse for the “church’s” own dying members either, but only joy over receiving another “estate” into their coffers. But more “precious” is the death of “saints” to the PC[g] (read the often misrepresented verse, Psalm 116:15), especially more valuable to the PCG[g] than the murder of the precious innocent children of “the world,” whom God so loves, too, more than the PC[g]’s ministry loves dead people’s money.
And God sees straight through to their hearts by their own reactions to the deaths of children and teachers, and the deaths of saints. God sees. And if that shameless cult does not believe God and Jesus see them, then they neither believe in God or Jesus.
Question: Is there a way for a former member of these cults, PC[g] specifically, to find out if they have been disfellowshipped or even “marked” after having either quit or after being suspended? Of course, all communication is cut off from the “church” and even their own “literature” and magazines are cut off from the suspended member, as well as internet access to sermons and “bible studies.” How can a member then know if they have suddenly been disfellowshipped or “marked” behind their back if not able to hear the churchwide announcements or allowed to speak with other members? Is ESN able to keep a list of “marked” people through those who can still hear the announcements, etc., only for the purposes of warning ex-members for the sake of their safety and personal security? I believe being “marked” may have more serious implications than just being banned. –Q. W.
Comment: There’s no way of knowing all the disfellowshipped or marked members. This information is given to members during closed-door services.
Deryl Hope’s Boring Bible Study on Families:
May 31, 2022
Deryl Hope recently gave a Bible Study on “God Works Through Families.” I never heard such a boring message in all my life (except for many of GF’s). Members probably had a hard time paying attention and not falling asleep as Deryl’s usual quick-paced and high and mighty voice droned on and on and on. He went through practically all the families and major names in the Bible, beginning with Genesis. Then he began with the usual PCG drivel about God’s Plan A and Plan B. [Note: Plan A and Plan B are covered in the testimony “Disfellowshipped After Voicing Concerns“] I ended up skipping through most of it. At the end he expounded on GF’s The God Family Vision booklet. For those who have studied into this doctrine, they know there is no such thing taught in the Bible. This idea of a “God family” came from Mormonism and is also covered in our two Mystery of the Ages critiques [opens as PDF]. –Bible study critiqued by Anonymous
Brad Macdonald Brags About What Celtic Throne Performances Will Accomplish With the Audience:
May 31, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
Just Who Is In the Worst Kind of Captivity?
May 31, 2022
In looking from the outside of the phonydelphian “church” instead of from the psychological cage within, it becomes a strange irony to behold this last week’s title of GF’s infomercial, KOD, which was “A World Held Captive,” How about a “church” held captive?
Sure, it is true in large part that the world is held captive by many deceptions and truly we are all deceived to some extent. But less so is it “the world” which is held being captive, than it is a “church” made up of people which are being held captive and spiritually restrained by very deceptive cults.
And that is why the phonydelphian “church” must so frequently preach about the deceiver, Satan (rarely of Jesus’ true liberty) [Comment by ESN: PCG does not teach about Jesus’ true liberty], and how the whole world is deceived and in captivity to the mind of the devil. How self-describing of the “church” itself, and when the ministers speak of this, as if no one would dare to suspect the same who speak of such deception, that they are themselves among the greatest of deceivers. Just as Jesus said it, ” . . . When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own . . . ” John 8:44.
Just as the phonydelphian ministers always repeat the same verse about “the god of this world,” as quoted from II Corinthians 4:4, they truly speak of their own little world.
The real truth is that the phonydelphian “church” has hi-jacked a body of people whom the false “ministers of light” so flatteringly call “the very elect.”
This is not being said to accuse the people (which is what Satan and his ministers do: accuse), many of whom are sincere believers who want to know the truth about all things, some in whom [may] reside the grieved Spirit of God. [Comment by ESN: Read: “What is the Spiritual Status of People in the WCG Offshoots?“] But none of that Spirit is present in that “church” which more so quenches the Spirit and drains it out as in a slow bloodletting. No, that phony religious “.org” does not feed the flock, but rather feeds upon the people, its supposed “life-giving” churchlike organism more so resembling that of a collective of vampires than that of shepherds protecting and feeding the lambs and the sheep.
May all the people who have been lured into the phonydelphian trap by “truth” used as bait, and the Bible as a hook, and who are truly led by the Spirit, soon see through this attempted systematic spiritual murder being committed against them and against God.
Have faith that God sees right through all this, and will not allow his own lost children to be cast into the lake of fire as just another wasted by-product of Satan’s deception factory. Remember, God is mightier than we can conceive of and will blow the extortionist cult leaders’ threats right back into their own faces. –K. D.
PCG Bans Gender Reveal Parties:
June 3, 2022
The PCG has now banned gender reveal parties for expectant families. While Herbert Armstrong “approved” baby showers. Gender reveal parties are not allowed as they put the attention on the parents. (Yes, you read that correctly) Also stated, was that they originated in the 2000’s by social media and Hollywood and by putting the emphasis on the parents it is too much like a birthday party. Hmmmm. I don’t think so, but that’s besides the point.
For those scratching their heads in bewilderment at the news of this recent stupidity, this is done because it is another means of control. They like to flex their control muscle, show people who’s boss and also they don’t like get-togethers. While they always preach that the brethren should fellowship often, they want it done in controlled, supervised environments. They actually require a minister or a deacon to be at get-togethers over a certain number. Most members are actually oblivious to this rule. This is because they don’t want people having a party where people can celebrate–possibly with family and friends in the world–the exciting event of finding out if you will be welcoming a baby boy or girl into your family. –Former PCG member [name withheld]
Comment;: Read “Crazy Statements Made by PCG Ministers” #22 which tells about the “rule of 7” (i. e., if more than 7 meet together a minister has to be present).
Want to Share Some of My Story / ESN Has Been Very Impactful:
June 5, 2022
I’m very grateful for the work you all have done with this site. It’s been very impactful in my life and I’d like to share a bit about my story in hopes it will help others. It has been a long journey and I still struggle in many aspects in my life but it has gotten a lot better over the years. ESN has been a key part in reassuring me that my decision was right and most importantly, that I wasn’t alone in this struggle. –T. J. (former PCG member)
Comment: To read what this person submitted, go to: A Letter to Members and Survivors of Philadelphia Church of God.
Why Doesn’t God Correct the Ministers?
June 10, 2022
(Moved to Questions & Answers under “Questions About Philadelphia Church of God”)
SF Gives Sermon On Faith to Be Healed:
June 12, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
Countering the Works of the Devil:
June 14, 2022
ESN has done much good over the years in countering the works of the devil. –Impacted by loved one in PCG
How Obsessed PCG is With Herbert Armstrong:
June 15, 2022
I wonder if people are aware of how obsessed the PCG is with Herbert Armstrong. Below is a list of everything they have assigned his name to:
-Armstrong international cultural foundation
-Armstrong institute of biblical archaeology
-Armstrong Club (This is Spokesman’s Club.)
-Armstrong Preforming Arts Conservatory
-Armstrong Youth Orchestra
–Armstrong Prayer Rock (They believe this replaces Jacob’s pillar stone that they have in a glass display case.)
-Gerald Flurry’s grandson named his daughter Loma
-January 16th – The anniversary of his death is a highly regarded day of which they expect some miracle or significant world event to occur.
-Many members have framed photos of Herbert Armstrong in their homes.
-Every decision made is based upon some ruling or precedent previously set, unless overturned or modified by the new “King.”
-Their entire doctrine and interpretation of scripture is defined and created by Herbert Armstrong.
If this isn’t worshiping a man, I don’t know what is. If you have the unfortunate experience of sitting through a sermon or Bible study, you will notice that HWA is quoted more often than not only Jesus Christ, but the Bible itself.
Comment by ESN: Read: By Their Fruits You Shall Know Them (excellent article by former member which shows they actually worship and revere their god Herbert W. Armstrong).
PCG’s Obsession with HWA Only Scratches the Surface:
June 16, 2022
The previous letter about PCG’s obsession with HWA is spot on. In fact, it only scratches the surface in illustrating their worship of that man.
Spare a thought for Romans 1:25: “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the [created] creature more than the Creator.”
The PCG idolizes a man in place of God, and also shamelessly makes trinkets their idol. This is real prophecy being fulfilled.
To prominently set up a random stone, which HWA may or may not have kneeled next to, at the entrance of their auditorium for everyone to look to and in effect acknowledge as a homage of the man they worship, is one step away from a golden calf. Actually, its probably worse. Gerry Flurry fascinates the membership by saying it is a transference of the Stone of Scone, because it titillates men who “seek a sign.” Any sign that points them to a man.
[ESN letter entitled, “Gerald Flurry Finds Herbert Armstrong’s Prayer Rock!” adds some good background to this topic.]
The competition to be the staunchest supporter of HWA has always been fierce in the PCG. Who can quote him the most, and who is the most convincing when repeating his unbiblical dogma. This is also a badge of honor for many other splinters like David Pack’s group. Who loves HWA the most? As Brad Macdonald was quoted as saying, MOA should be studied annually. How proud he was to say how many times he has read MOA. Nothing like that is ever said about the Bible. Stephen Flurry had no qualms saying that he has never read the whole Bible. Why would he need to when its all been interpreted for him by men? Is the Spirit of Truth really limited to understanding the writings of HWA?
By worshiping that which is created, it is an easy transference to tell blind sheep to worship a man who claims to follow HWA the most. All the while, God becomes unnecessary. Many years ago, the only answer given at a Spokesman’s Club open night question, “what is truth?” was, “whatever Mr Flurry tells us!” (to thundering applause). That really says it all.
It is utterly shameful. –B. A.
Regarding PCG Being More Like the Mafia:
June 18, 2022
WOW! I was able to read this testimony PCG Not a “God Family” but More Like the Mafia this morning. As I was reading, I already knew in my mind one of the goons he was talking about was Cal Culpepper. Great testimony. Horrible experience for him. I’m just glad he’s out of that situation. –I. S.
Ministers Think They’re Right:
June 18, 2022
Regarding PCG Not a “God Family” but More Like the Mafia . Poor guy, I know just how the ministers get. They think they’re right and that’s the end of it. Glad he’s out and away from it! –Former PCG member
SF’s Long, Drawn Out Bible Study to Keep Members Striving and Fearing:
June 18, 2022
(Moved to PCG Sermons & Bible Study Critiques for 2022. Search for title)
I’m Not Even in PCG and Have to Deal with Them:
June 23, 2022
I’ve been in a relationship with my boyfriend for [date removed]. Very sweet, handsome, etc. We are [ages removed]. When I first met him, I knew he had to go to church on Saturdays, but I merely thought they were some form of Jewish faith and that they were a more religious family. At the time, he was living [elsewhere] because he did something “bad” and had to leave [names removed] house. Things like the Feasts, not working after sunset on Fridays, the driving an hour to the church, etc., I literally assumed was just them being religious. The only ones in the PCG are [names removed]. The whole rest of the family is not.
He attended a wedding in Oklahoma and I was surprised I wasn’t able to go. That’s when he starts to tell me how PCG “marked” him, how he can’t be baptized while dating me or that he can’t even be dating outsiders. “But it’s not a cult or anything” he said. I made him assure me he wouldn’t leave me over them.
[Dates removed], he brought mail back from [PCG]. I looked them up [online] and I ended up confronting him about the cult. He didn’t take kindly to that and after a second argument the next day we decided to not talk about it anymore.
Turns out he was marked by [minister’s name removed] for talking bad about the “government of God,” and the ministers made him leave [names removed] house. He has gone to the Armstrong college and went to all the youth camps growing up. He says when we get married he can just leave the “church” then come back to it. They have absolutely no idea he’s with me and he won’t post me on his Instagram because of them. I told him I absolutely want no involvement in his “church” or for them to interfere.
I really love him but the cult is in the back of my mind a lot. … When he texted me about SF’s health issues awhile back, my mind was hoping that they would just die.
Because I love him so much I’m willing to endure the task of trying to get him to open his eyes. I would rather not force him with an ultimatum. Wish me luck! –[name withheld]
Reply: Hi [name removed]. we’ve received many emails over the years from those having someone they love who is involved with these deceptive groups. If you haven’t already done so, I recommend you read our article: If You Have a Loved One in a Deceptive, Exploitive Group (Includes what to do and what not to do).
First of all, I think you know that he has not been honest with you from the beginning, by thinking he can keep you in his life and also keep the PCG at the same time. The PCG leaders will not let him leave PCG, marry you, and then go back to the PCG. They forbid members from dating or marrying outside their organization. He knows that by continuing to be with you, he is considered “disobeying the authority.” Yet he keeps stringing you along.
>Because I love him so much I’m willing to endure the task of trying to get him to open his eyes. I would rather not force him with an ultimatum. Wish me luck!
I know you love him, but I don’t think you grasp how controlling PCG is and what you are up against. They control every aspect of members’ lives–their behavior, their thoughts, their emotions, and their finances, and they use much fear (especially fear), along with shame and guilt to accomplish this. Their goal is financial exploitation by coercing others into giving large amounts of their money. Ultimatums, bargaining, talking to him, etc., will not work. Those that aren’t members have gone through much stress by trying to get someone in these groups to “open their eyes.”
He will have to make a choice to place his love for you above the group and leave the group permanently once and for all. This means he will have to start thinking for himself, reading about these kinds of groups; understanding how they work to deceive and exploit people. He will have to be willing to educate himself about them. Right now he does not even believe PCG is a destructive group, aka cult–in spite of them having all the identifying marks of one: Identifying Marks of an Abusive Group and also: Leaders of Totalistic Groups Have These Traits in Common.
If he won’t read or listen to anything that is critical of them, then please think about the grief and misery you are headed for. Read some of the testimonies on our site.
I’m really sorry to have to tell you this, but this has been our experience over many years.
Dwight Falk Tries to Intimidate Members Into Supporting “the Work”:
June 24, 2022
A PCG source sent the following notes. It was a short, but twisted, taken out of context, sermonette given by Dwight Falk, who knows absolutely nothing about exegesis of the Scriptures.
Falk started off talking about rising gas prices and then went on to quote Malachi 3:11: “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.” This is God talking to the “sons of Jacob” (See: British Israelism-True or False?) not to the N. T. church that Jesus founded, and reading the passage in context shows it is talking about pests such as the locust or caterpillar eating their crops, not about gaining financial blessings. The PCG ministers know they can control members much better if they use the O. T. especially that which is applying to the House of Israel.
He said if we “support the Work,” God will rebuke the devourer. [Note: For a definition of the words “the Work” see Buzzwords (or loading the language).]
He rattled off several blessings they (PCG) have; i.e., Armstrong College, etc., etc..
“As long as we are supporting His Work, God will rebuke the devourer (i.e., take care of us)” he asserted.
In other words, the blessings we receive are contingent upon doing certain acts–especially supporting, giving money to, “the Work”–then God will follow through. Is the New Testament church today living in O. T. times?
He took examples from the O.T.; i. e., the Israelite’s clothing and shoes not wearing out in the wilderness; the blessings and curses in Deuteronomy.
“God will rebuke the devourer,” he said, “as long as we stay close to Him and support the Work.”
Notice how God helping us is all centered around supporting the Work.
Does Philippians 4:19: “But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus” say anything about God taking care of us, or blessing us, “as long as” we “support the Work”?
No, it does not.
Sorry, Dwight, you failed Bible exegesis big time. –sermonette critiqued by PCG source
GF is Holding a Lot of Bitterness Inside Him:
June 27, 2022
In regard to Dattolo’s sermon “God’s Laodicean Policy,” I honestly believe that GF is holding a lot of bitterness inside him towards the WCG because of the way they disfellowshipped/fired him after they wouldn’t listen to his “Malachi’s Message” which he claimed was “delivered to him by a mighty angel.” This had to have been a great puncture in his already inflated ego. Ever since then (even though he insists he is “carrying on Herbert Armstrong’s legacy”) he has had it in for any Laodiceans and every so often we get these sermons about “cut them off,” “abandon them,” etc. I believed he is influenced by Satan and is so enraged that he is after not only those who were associated with WCG or PCG, but now those who were children that grew up inside. If anyone in PCG associates with these “Laodiceans,” their salvation is threatened by this arrogant, tyrannical mad man. –A. R.
PCG Members Will Fast on July 3:
June 29, 2022
The PCG fast for July 3 was already mentioned in the May 22 letter above. It was announced in SF’s sermon that month.
They are fasting because there are so many with serious health problems in the PCG right now. Stephen Flurry’s hip/leg; Andrew Locher’s diabetes with neuropathy; Colin Hercus’ wife has severely debilitating back problems (he is a minister in the UK); and Michele Naagtegal, young wife of Brent in the Jerusalem office suffered a stroke and the blood clot in her brain has made her blind on both half’s of her eyes causing her to be constantly dizzy. Only the “elites” were mentioned. Unfortunately, the common member that is suffering due to lack of medical care doesn’t get to be mentioned–not that it would really matter anyway. No one gets miraculously healed in that organization. –S. I.
Celtic Throne Irish Dance Production Is Now the Warning Work to the Laodiceans:
June 29, 2022
As I understand it, Gerald Flurry says that the Celtic Throne Irish dance production is now the warning work to the Laodicians. If that is the case, they have to pay to hear the warning, which is completely unscriptural (Prov. 23:23 “Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding”). Go to their website and you will see that you cannot watch it for free, you have to buy tickets, for both the in-person and digitally-streamed production. How strange. –[name withheld]
Reply: What PCG is putting out is not “the truth” (i. e., the gospel truth); therefore, that Scripture wouldn’t apply to them. In our article, “Gerald Flurry’s Insanity With the New Throne of David” Brad Macdonald said the purpose of the Celtic Throne performance was “to show forth the New Throne of David.” There was another sermon, however, by GF in June 2019 entitled, “How the New Throne Changes God’s Work.” We also have an October 30, 2021 letter, “Does Irish Dancing Have Druid Roots?” that says: “PCG goes as far as to say that their musical ‘Celtic Throne’ is doing the Work of God. They can offer no proof but just say it is so.” See letter below from one of our contacts which gives more info about this.
GF Believes Celtic Throne Performance Is an Important Part of “The Work”:
June 29, 2022
In regard to the previous letter, Brad Macdonald definitely said the Celtic Throne performance was the “Work” and the way to warn the world and the Laodiceans. I remember specifically him speaking about that and thinking how in the world can these people swallow this?? I don’t remember what sermon or Bible study it was, or when it was given; I think it was summer 2021, around the time they went on the road with their product. But, yes, it was definitely said that this was an important part of the “Work”! So maybe it was missed as far as getting critiqued. I remember it specifically because I thought it was so far out to call Celtic Throne the “Work.”
I remember members always grumbling about the Irish dance and this was before, or just as they were getting started with, the Celtic Throne performances. But we repeatedly got lectured and reprimanded from the podium about the importance of the Irish dance and how if Gerald flurry is behind it then it’s from God and we need to support it. That was why he came down so hard in the last sermons Brad gave. I imagine the complaining has gotten worse.
This [Celtic Throne Performance] is literally all they have going on. The Public Appearance Campaigns failed badly and that’s why GF can’t do those anymore. They hit their largest Trumpet subscriber markets and it got few people to attend, let alone follow up with being invited to services.
Their “Work” is all about their stupid dance production right now. This is according to them “the truth” and “the message.”
They have gone off the deep end. –Former member of PCG [name withheld]
Praying Against This Evil Organization:
June 30, 2022
I notice all the illnesses in PCG right now, especially with the elite. I wrote in before about praying against this evil organization and its lies [June, 27, 2021 letter]. Others have also been doing the same [November 13, 2021; December 1, 2021] Let’s continue to pray against PCG, the top ministers, the Trumpet and the Key of David, and that they will not succeed. We don’t pray against innocent members, only that they will wake up, see the bad fruit in PCG, leave, and understand Christ’s message of grace. –A. R.
Gerald Flurry Doesn’t Smile:
NOTE: The following letter was moved down from the April 28, 2022 spot since we received a recent letter from someone who said they found another letter (March 6, 2017) about GF’s picture that said he looked like “death on a cracker” so we have added it to the following and have all links going to the related letters except those on this page.
July 1, 2022
I’d like to chime in about GF’s picture as others have done.
[Comment by ESN: Some letters to ESN that talk about GF’s picture are: “New Photos of GF” (March 6, 2017); “Gerald Flurry Doing Unusual Stuff Lately” (April 1, 2019); “Gerald Flurry Looks Like a Shyster to Me” (April 1, 2019); “Gerald Flurry Trying to Give Himself a New Look” (February 25, 2021); “Many Leaders of the Armstrong Cults Are Narcissists” (September 5, 2021; “GF & SF’s Pictures” (February 22, 2022 (scroll up to read)] and “’King Flurry’” and “’Prince Flurry’” Show Their Ugly Mugs”: (May 15, 2022) (scroll up to read).]
I often wondered why GF doesn’t smile on his church site like I see most Christian pastors doing on their ministries’ home page. (And I’m not talking about the toothy grin of phonies like Joel Osteen.) But you’re right. GF is trying to imitate HWA. I supposed if he could get a face lift he would do it. GF’s eyes are the eyes of a judgmental person. Look at his eyes alone (if you can stand to look at his picture) by covering over his mouth. They don’t look friendly and neither do HWA’s. I know we can’t go by looks alone but it’s been said that the eyes are the windows to the soul.
And no matter how many “hundreds of thousands of lives” PCG may boast that they are reaching with their Trumpet and Key of David, how many lives have actually been changed for the good and who now have inner peace, as a result of knowing and receiving Christ as their personal Savior? I say very few, because they don’t teach the true Jesus and they don’t teach salvation through faith alone. –A. R.
False Prophet Flurry and His July 3 Fast:
July 1, 2022
I’m certain false prophet Flurry will be privately having his sips of water on the 3rd (or maybe something a little stronger) so he can appear to be “holding up” while all the other members are fasting. Another case of “do as I say, not as I do.” –[name withheld]
GF Hasn’t Been Giving Sermons as Often:
July 2, 2022
I’ve found it interesting that GF hasn’t been giving the sermons as often and some of the other ministers have had a note in quotes that the sermon must “be played in all churches.” I thought maybe GF finally croaked, until last week when he finally appeared on the scene again with his sermon “Three Pentecost Warnings” where he talked about HWA’s June 15, 1985 Pentecost sermon and said “we need to be holding on to these visions God is giving us,” and “the Laodiceans lost the Pentecost message” and “50% are going to go through the worst suffering ever and 50% are never going to rise again,” blah, blah, blah. –Trusted PCG source
PCG Is a Business Using God and Fear as a Way of Getting Money:
July 2, 2022
I was in the PCOG from way back in the early 1990’s. I came in and started working on the sound and video setup. In my years there I saw a lot of favoritism from the upper people. When the company, not church, start buying land and building their utopia in 1996, I stopped tithing. It seemed that they started building a business and everyone’s money was going for pianos and chandeliers worth millions.
Stephen Flurry was in a TV interview in 2008 and when he was asked if tithing was mandatory he said no. After helping the PCG save thousands doing the sound setup free–using my own money–I was put out by Cal Culpepper for not tithing. He is not a very nice man. And a hypocrite. This company is just that, a company using God and fear as a way of getting money. And now they have a plane. What do they really need it for? The PCOG is a business selling God and life for the change in your pocket. –[name withheld]
Reply: We have that 2008 interview with SF critiqued on our site with links to the letters that came in about it. It is entitled “Special News Report on Philadelphia Church of God.” I’m sorry for all that you had to suffer because of that deceitful organization. Thank you very much for writing. I pray your life is much better now that you are out of PCG, although I’m sure everything has been traumatic for you.
Sickening the Way Members Are Treated:
July 3, 2022
It is sickening the way these so-called ministers treat the members. They are undoubtedly sociopaths. I remember a letter you posted once that showed how SF had no feelings whatsoever when a non-member confronted him about his no-contact ruling. Do you have a link to that? –A. R.
Reply: Yes, it is here: “Stephen Flurry Was Arrogant and Unfeeling The Time I Told Him Off.” (April 12, 2020)
Members Told to Love the Law and the Government:
NOTE: This letter was updated with a final paragraph at end on 7-4-22
July 3, 2022
I can’t bear listening to Deryl Hope and his tone of voice. He always comes across as a cocky young punk with some kind of unusual accent that I can’t quite place.
On June 25 he gave a twisted sermon entitled “Inside the Walls.” The main message being: We are to Love the Law [Mosaic Law or “God’s Law”] and the Government [in PCG].
“We have to want that Law to rule us and that Government to guide and direct us.” [Translation: We have to want the PCG ministers to rule us and tell us what to do.] Read : Why do members emphasize the “government of God”? (Q&A)
“The Laodiceans [Translation: the “new Worldwide Church of God” and all those who didn’t follow GF to the PCG] did not love the truth. That is why they forsook it.” [Translation: That is why WCG ministers decided to get rid of HWA’s doctrines and go mainstream, which is what many cults are doing today, so they could slide under the radar and shed the cult image.]
“We have to love both the Law and the Government. We have got to want that government to rule us, and guide and direct us. Otherwise, we risk compromising our submission.” [Translation: We have got to want the PCG government to rule us and tell us what to do. Otherwise, we might wake up to what they are really doing to us and decide to get out of PCG and be free from their harsh “government” and rules and find rest in Jesus who said “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” Matthew 11:28.]
Deryl said “God’s Law reflects His mind in print.” What he’s saying is that the mind of God is not the words in the Bible.
“If we hope to remain faithful ’til the end, we must love that government and that Law. [Translation: We must perform certain works to remain faithful. Forget the verse that says, “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.” (Romans 11:6) Forget that Jesus is the One that keeps us from falling: “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,” Jude 1:24.]
In other words, just listen to the twisted words of Deryl in this sermon and not what the Word of God really says.
He said, “We can be so thankful that God [Translation: God=GF] has provided for us a strong spiritual government in the waning days of this Laodicean era. … We have the great privilege of being led by a strong Philadelphian government” [Translation: By a harsh rulership] that is committed to protecting and feeding the sheep of God [Translation: Committed to abusing deceived people looking for spiritual guidance.]
How much do you hear PCG ministers talk about Jesus as their Shepherd? Or do they emphasize the Law and the Government in PCG more than Jesus? The “sheep of God” have Jesus as the Shepherd. “Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.” (John 10:7)
Deryl concludes with, “If we embrace God’s Law and his Government now, that will keep us inside those protected spiritual walls of God’s church [Translation: That will keep us inside PCG] until the day comes when God will move us to the protected, physical fortress of the Place of Safety.” [Translation: Only those who obey what PCG Government says will keep having their hopes in a mythical “place of safety.”]
The point that Deryl will not bring out in this sermon is that the Law was given to the nation of Israel, and the church is not spiritual Israel. See the Q&A under “Questions About the Law, Works or Salvation” to understand that if you are going to keep the Law (which was known as the ministry of death: II Corinthians 2:7), you must keep all of it, which no one can do perfectly. Therefore, if anyone teaches a gospel that mixes law and grace, they are under a curse. This is why this sermon is so twisted and so wrong.
–sermon critiqued by AJW
NOTICE: New article posted: The Laodicean Policy in Philadelphia Church of God (Critique of June 11, 2022 sermon given by Fred Dattolo) UPDATE 6-30-22: This recommended letter has been added at end: Making Money Is More Important to Flurry Than Keeping Families Together (Talks about GF using Matthew 10:34-38 to separate families and what this Scripture really means)
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