Every now and then people in the HWA splinter groups harass the ESN website with threats of legal action for posting information unfavorable to them. This behavior is typical of cults. We will add any such letters to this page when they come in.
In a defamation suit, being related to libel and slander, truth is a viable defense, and in the case of religion, a judge and jury would see quickly the nature of “truth” in this regard. The leader (or other person) would have to show how he was truly damaged, either economically or his reputation, and it all being about religion, this would be impossible.
Letter #1: (received 9-27-22)
Note from ESN: What is funny in regards to this first one is that this person wants to threaten to sue on behalf of a dead person! Both Alex Harrison and Max Rumler are dead. (Alex Harrison died 11-29-20 and Max Rumler died 7-16-13.)
All spelling below is the author’s and is left in context [sic].
From: JM
Subject: Deformation Of Character!
Message Body:
Looks like deformation of character! Of Alex Harrison. If you don’t take the comments done legal action could be next!
And for your information Max Rumler was a Creep. !!
You need to get your facts and name with hold tells a lot .
Talking I’ll off the dead and your got no permission to post his death!
Letter #2 (received 2-6-22)
Note from ESN: The following one is from a “guy” in Australia. He / she threatened to sue. In what court? On what charges? What was also crazy with this one was their 2nd email address had “rcg.org” in it. ESN got in touch with the company that the email came from to report them regarding threats.
From: Andrew.T
Subject: “Information”
Message Body:
Firstly- Nice comment Box- Your making people’s opinions feel valid.
Secondly- Your images are manipulative
Thirdly- Your First principle is designed to Trick
People into agreeing with the second.
Fourthly- I am a Former RCG member-
And I agree with Most of their teachings
I Went through the Mental Health Service
As well- Most of your Clients Need to Man up
Life isn’t for the timid.
Go Send this to Pack. See what He feels about it. Harden Up.
Letter #3:
2nd email from above person:
From: Andrew.T
krcarpenter [Australian address]
Subject: HWA- HIS Middle Name
Message Body:
You Know what You are doing- You are against Christ
Herbert W Armstrong was The Son of Eva Wright.
Mr. Armstrong Clearly used The W in His middle Name.
Christ spoke of those- Who deceived the simple.
Those Who are Mentally ill should See a Doctor First- DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Only A doctor Is qualified To diagnose A mental illness.
You are acting as a Therapist Before a doctor diagnoses- THIS MEANS YOU ARE
IMPERSONATING A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.
Take Down Your site Or The Restored Church of God will Sue.
I warned You once- And only once. Please take down this site. Thank you.
Other Contact: [gives a rcg.org email address]
Letter #4: (received 5-21-16)
Note from ESN: This minister in PCG was complaining about his name being on the site. Also read: “An Open Letter to Gerald Flurry and the PCG Ministers” by Dan DeGennaro where Oostendarp’s name is listed.
From: Timothy Oostendarp
Subject: http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/mike_ep/story/devast.htm
Message Body:
To Whom This May Concern,
As it pertains to the use of my personal and family name on your website, in alleged statement of facts provided by Mr. Dan DeGennaro, we ask that you please remove the information as it is libelous and constitutes defamation. My name should not associated with making or spreading scandalous claims with the intention of damaging reputation. If it is not removed, further legal, and punitive, action will be taken.
Timothy Oostendarp
Letter #5: (received 4-25-24)
Note from ESN: The following was received evidently from an “evangelist” in Christian Churches of God in Australia who didn’t like that we had linked to “Worldwide Church of God Organizational Splits” that included CCG’s name on it.
From: RGS
Subject: “The Christian Churches of God ”
Message Body:
Why is The Christian Churches of God (Wade Cox) included in your list of Sardis era Dugger/Armstrong splinter group offshoots. When they are in total opposition too it?
They were never apart of the WCG.
I was in the RCG of Pack for a decade.
They all are in gross error and use fear of a fake third resurrection lake of fire damnation if you ever dare leave them.
RGS
Letter #6: (received 4-25-24)
2nd email from above person:
From: Roger Govan-Smith
Subject: Re: “The Christian Churches of God”
Message Body:
Yes of course I will tell you. It was very easy to find.
On your very first landing page. Under the Title
OFFSHOOTS OF WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD
The eighth blue church hyperlink down. In between Intercontenental and PKG.
It may be in your legal interest to have it removed. Due to the fact the inclusion is proveably erroneous putting it kindly. Thank you in advance. Kind regards Roger Govan-Smith.
This page posted by Exit & Support Network™
September 29, 2022
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