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Focus on the Love of God Instead of Our Weaknesses:

January 2, 2021

This is the second time I write to you. The first time was in March 2020 when I sent my first testimony: “I Almost Got Sucked Into the Swirl of PCG.”

Thank you for your comforting words. They bring me back to the simplicity of the gospel.

It’s so easy to forget to keep it simple. When I ”push” myself to do things to serve God (at least I imagine to serve), I put an unnecessary load on my shoulders  and then it becomes ”religion” and it’s not very pleasant.

I forgot that Jesus wants us free, with a light burden and to give with joy, not by obligation.

It so true when you say that the sin question is over, because Jesus has already forgiven all our sins. What a relief!! To repent almost everyday (like I did sometimes) produces more fear than faith. Just reminding us of this important fact makes us focus on the love of God instead of our weaknesses.

The goal [of my testimony] is to share with others and, hopefully to help, because their testimonies helped me.

Keep up your good work. Your site is so instructive and comforting!

God bless you! –Mario [first name used with permission]

Comment: Read Mario’s 2nd testimony that he recently sent to ESN: I Was Wounded More Deeply Than I Thought. (His 2nd testimony links to his first one at the end.)

GF Moves His Focus to China:

January 5, 2021

Flurry has moved from focusing on the presidential election to China. In the February Philadelphia Trumpet he has several “Special Reports” on how the Western nations need to “Wake up” to the threat from China. The magazine cover has a terrifying picture of what I presume is the Chinese dragon.

Contrary to the abject garbage fear “That Prophet” is putting in people’s minds, China is destined to fail. Terry James (who has written on Nearing Midnight) wrote an article a couple days ago: “China Prophetically Destined to Fail.” And since there’s been talk on your site about The Great Reset, I noticed another article James wrote on, “Reset Vs. Restrainer.” I try to constantly contradict what GF is saying and I would encourage others to do the same. These are only two articles which are much better for Christians to read instead of GF’s “prophecies.”  I still maintain (as I did on December 31) that SF and GF are getting their “news” from other sources. –A. R.

GF Calls for a Churchwide Fast:

January 9, 2021

GF announced that there will be a churchwide fast on January 10 (Sunday). He read the story about Jehoshaphat and said “the battle is God’s and He will take care of it” and “God has shown He has powerfully responded when his people fast.” So he, like many charismatic “prophets” on the Internet, is still expecting God to act at the last minute with this election and a “miracle” will cause Trump to remain president. Can anything be more insane? –[name withheld]

PCG Expecting Some Kind of Miracle From God Before January 20th:

(2nd email from person above)

January 9, 2021

On SF’s Trumpet Daily shows (January 7 and 8) he has said the following. He called president-elect Joe Biden the “fake president”; he said there are now “two Americas and one church of God”; he read several prophetic verses in Daniel that apply to Israel and made them apply to PCG instead. He said things are going to get so bad that God “will have to intervene to protect and save His people” and “We are going to need God’s miraculous protection.” He quoted HWA as saying, “No matter what happens, God will keep His Work going forward.” He emphasized that members must remain steadfast and be bold and enthusiastic in their support for the Work.

In referring to his recent Trumpet Brief and other PCG programs, SF said, “…you know this church’s position on what will happen come January 20. ” He said “this incredible journey with President Trump is only just the beginning.” Not explaining what he meant, but this all sounded like they are expecting some kind of “miracle” from God before January 20.

I’m still waiting to see if GF admits he was wrong about Trump having a 2nd term. –[name withheld]

Comment: I doubt if he will ever admit he was wrong. Time will tell how he changes or glosses over his original prediction

PCG Fast Is to Be A Double Whammy:

January 10, 2021

I heard about this fast that PCG has called for [see January 9 letter above “GF Calls for a Churchwide Fast”]. If their members go with this fast, they should be aware that they’re also wanting to be evicted from the U.S. so that they could go to the Place of Safety (according to GF’s “prophecy”).

This is also a double whammy in that Flurry is hoping that something significant will happen either on their most honored January 16 HWA death anniversary (which is known as “National Nothing Day” read letter stating this), but PCG is also expecting something to happen on January 20–a miracle to keep Trump in office. Gerald Flurry is not so much concerned about Trump staying in office but more about proving him, Flurry, as a prophet. Failure of this prophecy to come to pass will prove Flurry once again to be a false prophet and could open the door for the exodus of people from PCG.

They will never learn nor will they wake up from this stupid stupor of Armstrong/Flurry worship that they just go along with what they’re commanded. They all have really lost their objective and critical thinking. Are they not thinking that as they go through this fast? Flurry with his minion ministers are also already planning a spin doctor on their words in the chance that president-elect Biden is sworn in. May this organization finally implode soon. –Scott

Reply: Time will tell what is going to happen. Read: “Members Will Adjust their Thinking and Go On(November 9, 2020 letter which mentions the book When Prophecies Fail) andFlurry Predicted Trump Will Kick PCG Members out of the United States(January 18, 2020 letter and the comments following that letter.)

Theme of Churchwide Fast Was “Fasting and Praying For God’s Protection”:

(Note: This letter has been shortened due to its length.)

January 13, 2021

These are some of the things recently said in a PCG sermonette given by Carlos Heyer (preaching elder and regional director): [emp. mine]

“Last December 5 GF declared a churchwide fast for January 10. He outlined 3 areas to focus on during this fast.” Heyer called Gerald Flurry “our Prophet or King.” [Read Biblical Titles Gerald Flurry Has Appropriated for Himself]

He said Brad Macdonald wrote an announcement for Europe and the UK telling who has fasted in the past; i.e., the ancient Israelites, the Jews in Ezra’s day, those in the NT, and the church under HWA. “In every instance, these fasts produced incredible fruit and the Work surged forward.”

He said the theme for this fast is “Fasting and Praying for God’s Protection.” Some scriptural references he gave were Ezra 8, Daniel 9, Isaiah 58 (mentions “true fasting vs. false fasting”), Psalms 37, and Matthew 6:16-18.

HWA “left us a legacy on how to fast, alternating one hour of study, one hour meditation, and one hour prayer, then begin the cycle again.”

GF had said: “The coronavirus is holding the Work back in many ways and we need more laborers; and we need to make sure we are overcoming Satan the Devil.

He read more from Brad Macdonald’s announcement in which he went through 3 areas/points to focus on:

(1) Fast and pray for God’s intervention in the coronavirus situation as it is holding back the Work (even tho the income has not been adversely affected).

(2) Fast and pray for more members and laborers. Overall membership has not increased.

(3) GF has said these are exciting and intense days, but they are also dangerous. The only way we can thrive and perform at the level God needs us to is if we are close to God. Examine ourselves for anything that is separating us from God. Examine your relationship with the world. Are you too close to the world? Too materialistic?

“Let’s beseech Him to further empower this great Work and to help us prepare individually and collectively for the return of Jesus Christ.”

–sermonette critiqued by L. S. in ESN

PCG Expecting Trouble:

January 13, 2021

Looks like PCG is getting nervous about their programs possibly being banned from YouTube. SF on the latest Trumpet Daily radio show (“The Real Coup”) said they are “expecting trouble.” He said it was because “they” can’t stand the truth. The TD is now going to have their own platform.

I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a broadcast or sermon that SF, GF or his ministers have given that doesn’t mention Herbert Armstrong. He said HWA died on Jan 16, 1986 and then reminded everyone that this date is coming up. He said, “Think about the prophecies he [HWA] told us about.” [Note from ESN: you mean the over 200 false ones?] He also talked about how God is a miracle worker and how He has answered PCG’s prayers in the past. But, he added, it is “so easy” to forget the miracles that have backed God’s Work these past 31 years. So easy to forget about the “earth-shaking miracle in the lawsuit/the court case over the Mystery of the Ages.” This “court case miracle” continues to be a fat lie that SF and GF like to keep alive. [Read Letter to ESN: PCG Did NOT Win a Victory in the WCG vs. PCG Court Case by Attorney at Law.]

It’s also been mentioned more than once before but SF’s voice seemed very loud and very excited this time. –L. S.

UPDATE: Stephen Flurry was later kicked off YouTube.

The Two Most Obvious False Prophecies of GF:

January 16, 2021

Why would anyone be interested in attending the PCG when two of the most obvious so-called “Prophecies” by G. Flurry have fallen flat and failed?

President Trump is NOT going to throw the PCG out of America AND he is NOT going to continue as president.

Wake up and smell what the PCG is shoveling. –R. B.

January 16–A Significant Happening:

January 19, 2021

On the Trumpet Radio Show for January 18, SF talked about the following which appeared to be the “significant happening” on January 16, the 35th anniversary of Herbert Armstrong’s death:

“Over the weekend you’re looking at the collapse of Germany’s government. January 16, on Saturday. This guy named Armin Laschet. He’s the new leader of Germany’s Christian Democratic Union. Voted in on January 16. Most likely the candidate running for Chancellor or the lead candidate running for Chancellor in the September elections. He’s a big fan of Charlemagne. His family has claimed he is a direct descendant of him. … This ties in with the Holy Roman Empire. And this is the history that is being resurrected. They want to rebuild and raise up the ruins of it (the Holy Roman Empire). That fact that this happened on the anniversary of Herbert Armstrong’s death could be somewhat significant. And here he is on January16, a huge fan of Charlemagne. He takes over leadership of Merkel’s party. Pretty amazing development.”


Flurry Turned Out to Be a Dreamer of Dreams:

January 21, 2021

Gerald Flurry has written emphatically, “By most appearances, Joe Biden will be America’s next president. But I absolutely do not believe that at all. I am confident Donald Trump will remain president.” Furthermore, “I am certain you are about to see some of the biggest frauds exposed perhaps ever! Why? because a Biden presidency is contrary to bible prophecy.”

How does Gerald Flurry now defend these claims?

Gerald Flurry claims to be a prophet, but it appears that his credibility as a prophet is definitely in question.

Gerald Flurry says that Trump will remain president. That means he is not talking about Trump running for president in 2024. It means that Trump wil remain president. If Gerry and Steve haven’t noticed yet, Biden was sworn in as the 46th president on January 20, 2021. So what now? What lunacy will we hear next come out of this false prophet’s mouth?

How does this so-called prophet explain his statement, “A Biden presidency is contrary to Bible prophecy?” Joe Biden is now the president. I wonder what Gerry has to say about this?

Stephen Flurry quotes from the Bible [on his January 20 Trumpet Daily Radio] the stories of the 12 year old girl and Lazarus being raised from the dead as examples of God delaying miracles, or perhaps demonstrating that God can bring dead situations back to life. Yes, we do believe in God’s miracles, however no massive frauds have been exposed as Gerry has claimed would happen. Do the Flurrys really think that God is going to overturn this election outcome and reinstate Donald Trump as president? ABSURD!!

There’s really no way out of this situation for the Flurry false prophets are there. A hole has been dug so deep and I wonder how Gerry is going to get out of it?

What a damn shame it is that these false prophets give false hope to their naive members via their false prophecies. Then they take the members’ tithes and offerings so they can live a high quality of life. They are pathetic. This may sound harsh but all I have to say in conclusion is Deuteronomy 13:5. It’s what God commands. –M. G.

Alex Harrison Destroyed Families and Spiritual Lives:

January 23, 2021

First, Stephen Flurry on his radio broadcast talks about a Newsmax campaign where his father promoted an article on how Donald Trump would remain president. Apparently, there was someone else talking about Trump remaining president also. You can see how SF is annoyed that someone else would dare steal his dad’s thunder. Not to worry, nothing eventuated anyway. SF is clearly upset that his father’s work is not mentioned. Then he says something about the Trumpet website’s track record. What a joke! Track record? Which one? The one of false prophecies?

Finally, regarding the death of Alex Harrison [died November 22, 2020]. SF talks about Harrison and how great a man he was. He says that sadly a lot of the people that were in the PCG under Harrison are no longer with us. That’s because Harrison booted them out like Diotrephes did back in the day as it says in 3 John 9-11. Good ol’ Alex has been with the Flurry’s from almost day one, all the way through. Yes, enjoying the high life at the expense of the brethren who got shafted by him. SF says, “Every time our paths crossed, if I was at HQ and Alex would visit from overseas, it seems like my office was one of the first stops along the way. He’d come in to say ‘hi.'” I can just imagine the two of these power hungry freaks giving each other good ol’ pats on the back. SF calls him “a dear friend of mine.” I call him a wolf in sheep’s clothing. SF says, “Alex had a profound impact on God’s people.” He sure did–destroying families and destroying spiritual lives. Alex Harrison was nothing but scum and anyone who thought highly of him makes them the same–scum. –Former PCG member

PCG Palms Their False Prophecies off on God:

January 23, 2021

How convenient it is for Stephen Flurry to now come out and say, “Well, it’s not a man’s prophecy, it’s God’s prophecy.” [Read our article: “How Gerald Flurry’s Failed Trump Prophecy Was Shifted to ‘God’s Prophecy'”] in defense of his father’s claim that 2 Kings 14:26-27 related to President Donald Trump. Don’t these imbeciles realize that if it wasn’t for Gerald Flurry spewing out this nonsense of Trump being “King Jeroboam,” nobody else would have? Thanks to Gerald Flurry writing and preaching and campaigning this crap on Newsmax, there were other imbeciles who believed it and still do.

Just listen to some of the comments coming through to the Daily Trumpet Radio which, of course, are only positive ones, and you will hear the naive and gullible still believing and hoping that all the false prophecies of GF will still come to pass. But, oh no, they’re no longer GF’s prophecies but God’s. I thought the commandment was, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” Yet, these evil people now want to palm their false prophecies off on God. How typical. They simply can’t admit they are wrong can they? After all, even their very own pioneer HWA said that the hardest thing for anyone to do is to admit they are wrong. I guess they really are following in his footsteps –“1975 in Prophecy” (remember that?).

God help those people who can’t think for themselves and continue to hold on to these lies. “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.” These words are usually credited to the acclaimed genius Albert Einstein. I think it’s time for members to wake up and perhaps start listening to a genius rather than a false prophet. –Former PCG member

Gerald Flurry Kicking the Trump/Jeroboam Can Down the Road:

January 23, 2021

Have you noticed the difference in GF’s writing style from the past–say 20 yrs ago–and today? I happened to come across his November 2001 Trumpet Editorial (“Where Are We Now in Prophecy?) and then looked at the recent February 2021 issue of the Philadelphia Trumpet.  In the first one he’s using many fear and dread adjectives to describe what’s coming on America and Britain, the same as HWA was prone to do. However, in his recent February article, it’s almost like it’s written by someone else. I have to wonder if someone is ghost writing for him?

But here’s the thing. In this February 2021 issue he is still keeping Trump in the picture as the one who will “save America.” I am quoting: (emp. mine)

“The name of Israel is about to be blotted out. God Himself intervenes and saves Israel temporarily. How? By the hand of an end-time Jeroboam!” (2 Kings 14:27)

“Today, Donald Trump plays the role of an end-time Jeroboam. …. In Amos 7:8, God reveals why He saves America through Jeroboam.”

In the January 21, 2021 Trumpet Brief  SF said: (all emp. mine)

“Please read my father’s article ‘Barack Obama in Bible Prophecy.’  … It also shows that God is still going to save the nation through President Trump, an end-time type of King Jeroboam II, so that people have one last chance to repent. But things might get a lot worse before they get better.”

In the January 20, 2021 Trumpet “Donald Trump, Bible Prophecy and Faith” SF said: (emp mine)

We have not seen the last of Donald Trump. How do we know this? Because God’s prophecies in Amos 7, 2 Kings 14, Daniel 8 and Revelation 12 have not been entirely fulfilled!

I had to read that over more than once to make sure I was seeing it right. This was written after the recent inauguration. No wonder members are still hanging on and not leaving. They want to see what else is going to happen since GF is kicking the Trump/Jeroboam can down the road. Has GF lost his senses? It’s one more way to keep from admitting he was wrong. –L. S.

HQs Trying Hard to Minimize the Damage of GF’s False Prophecy:

January 24, 2021

PCG is good at psychological and spiritual manipulation and right now they are doubling down and pressuring members to stay. A PCG contact told me that HQs is trying hard to minimize the damage of GF’s false prophecy about Trump. This includes saying that Donald Trump is the “real president” and Joe Biden is the “fake president” and God recognizes Donald Trump–as if to say the prophecy is still true!

My gut feeling is that the members are still trying to process all of this. They know in their heart of hearts that this is all B.S., at least the more discerning ones do. –Anonymous

Comment: Our article: Gerald Flurry and His False Trump Prophecies was updated under “Why Didn’t More Leave?”

UPDATE: Read our new article: Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump (GF’s false prophecy is now a “mistake” and God speaks in a “coded” way)

“Laodiceans” Contacting PCG:

January 26, 2021

A number of members in UCG, LCG, Global (UK) and a few other splinters are showing an interest in PCG. These, as you know, would be considered “Laodiceans.” Some of them have contacted the ministers for a visit and are tithing to PCG, while still remaining in their “Laodicean” churches. I am sending you the transcript of a sermon by Brad Macdonald that I received from a trusted source in PCG about PCG seeing themselves in Isaiah 22 and it also covers how the Laodiceans have contacted PCG. –Anonymous

Comment by  ESN: This has been posted with the title of: Is Isaiah 22 a Chronology of the Philadelphia Church of God?

Here We Go Again–Gerald Flurry Made a “Mistake”:

January 27, 2021

I just read the latest article: Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump. It was brilliant.

Here we go again. Stephen Flurry (SF) coming to the defense of his father on the January 26 Trumpet Daily Radio (“Make America California”). This time there is an acknowledgment of a “mistake” having been made. I nearly fell over when I heard that! Yes, an acknowledgment of a mistake made by Gerald Flurry (GF) regarding the timing of another term of presidency for Donald Trump.

Quoting SF, “My father had a Trumpet Brief yesterday” [read above article by ESN]. (SF now quotes GF) “Why I still believe Donald Trump is coming back.” (SF continues) “He went through again, these prophecies in Amos 7 / 2 Kings 14, things that you’re very familiar with. He talked about, ‘Look, okay, so I made a mistake with the timing back in that article from two months ago, but let’s let this play out. Let’s see, if you wanna focus in on the word remain (I think we all should. After all, we hold politicians to account–why not ‘so called’ prophets?), okay, but let’s see how this plays out over the long haul. And let’s see how Amos 7 is fulfilled over the long haul.’ (So now it’s the long haul–how convenient! Even a layperson could predict that Donald Trump could make a run for president in 2024. Nothing prophetic about that!) SF continues: “And furthermore, how does God view this? What is God’s view of what happened on November 3? What is God’s view?” (So far, GF has been wrong concerning Donald Trump. Shouldn’t he tread carefully to not be presumptuous in trying to speak for God, because God will do things His own way–He’s full of surprises. Why should GF trip all over his own prophecies and cause others to trip up also by listening to him? It’s the blind leading the blind, isn’t it?)

SF says, “I’ve touched on this yesterday with respect to fake leaders, fake kings, even from ancient Israel’s history (what about fake prophets like Gerald and Stephen Flurry?). Individuals that appointed themselves like Adonijah and Absalom as well, Ish-bosheth, there’s plenty of examples like this in the Bible (That’s rich. What about Gerald and Stephen Flurry?). My father said this in the Trumpet Brief, ‘You can see this passage and see how it’s one flowing event’–he’s talking about Amos 7. ‘There’s no hint of a gap or pause in Jeroboam’s reign. You can see why I wrote the article as I did.’”

SF then goes on to say that his father interpreted the 2 Kings verse regarding Jeroboam as an uninterrupted reign because the flow of Scripture timeline is uninterrupted–it’s all Jeroboam’s timeline. “This is clearly a prophecy of the very end for this nation and Jeroboam is in power. It has not yet been fulfilled. So based on this prophecy alone, we can be sure that God is going to give Donald Trump that office of presidency of the U.S., sooner or later.”

Well, zip-a-dee-doo-dah!! life is wonderful, ain’t it? Life is wonderful if you’re Gerald or Stephen Flurry.

Now all this blah, blah coming out of the mouths of Gerald and Stephen Flurry may all be well and true. Who knows? Donald Trump may in fact return in 2024 (Like I said, anybody could predict a return by Donald Trump for presidency in 2024. Nothing prophetic about that. Even Newsmax is predicting this. You might as well call Greg Kelly and Grant Stinchfield prophets. Who knows, they might even be the two witnesses. This is the Flurrys’ way of covering themselves. Do you see how deceptive this is? Doesn’t Matthew 24:24 say, “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect”? This is potentially deception on the highest level.)

Granted, Gerald Flurry actually acknowledges that he made a mistake about the so-called prophecy that Trump would remain president. However, both he and his son Stephen have not acknowledged an even bigger mistake (I call it a false prophecy). How do Gerald and Stephen Flurry explain away, “a Joe Biden presidency is contrary to Bible prophecy”?!! –M. G.

Comment: In our article, Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump we also bring out that GF wrote a November 9, 2020 article in the Trumpet entitled, “Donald Trump is Going to Win this Election.” [emp. mine]

GF and SF’s False View of Prophecies and Scripture:

January 27, 2021

GF and SF always emphasize frightening O. T. prophecies that will be fulfilled in our day. Of Amos 7 and 2 Kings 14:26-27 (the ones they are talking about lately) he says these are “God’s prophecies” and they have not been “entirely fulfilled.”

GF has appropriated certain titles, one being “that prophet,” but what he doesn’t bring out is that Amos (a prophet of God) also saw “visions.” Has GF seen visions? A “seer” was another name for a prophet in those days, who also saw visions mentally and spiritually. GF claims to have received revelation (not visions) about the book of Amos (and other books).

SF (on his “Make America California” Trumpet Radio program), said these are “God’s prophecies,” and he quoted I John 5:9-10 so he could talk about the  “witness of God”:

“If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.” (I John 5:9) (emp. mine)

However, SF did not go on to quote the next verse:

“And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.” (I John 5:11)

Nor did he quote the next two verses:

“He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” (Ibid. vs. 12-13)

SF then went on to quote Titus 1:2 “which God, that cannot lie” (to tie in with “God’s prophecies” not failing), but he omitted the first part that says, “In hope of eternal life.” God was promising eternal life in these verses! The hope of resting on eternal life.

PCG does not teach that one can know they have eternal life. Members do not have that assurance. –L. S.

Wik Heerma Tells Members to Remove Vanity From Their Lives:

January 31, 2021

Wik Heerma, in a recent Bible study, told members to “remove vanity” so they can prepare for the Days of Unleavened Bread. I found this so paradoxical when GF and the top ministers have got to be some of the most vanity-filled fat cats around. He said the root principle of sin is vanity and when we understand it, “we are understanding the mind of Satan.” So does that mean GF and all those elite know-it-all ministers filled with so much vanity have the mind of Satan? He said it is either sin or righteousness. It’s black and white. He said their prayers can be “too focused on themselves” or those in their inner circle. But “if we think like God” then we will “love all mankind” and intensify our prayers for the Work. Does GF’s cut-off ruling allow room for “loving all mankind”? Wik reminded them that they are “blinded to this” and they need to be cleansed of it. How? The answer was to keep the Law and ask themselves where they are deviating from it. The main way they deviate from it, he said, was because of “vanity.” Even though there have been worse sermonettes and sermons chastening members, this was only another message pounded into their manipulated minds for their sins. –Bible study critiqued by L. S.

Comment: Read: The Sin Question

GF Is at It Again:

February 1, 2021

Well, GF is at it again. He’s got another article out in the Trumpet: “Why I Still Believe Donald Trump is Coming Back.” ESN article: Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump has now been updated at end with a critique of this Trumpet article. (Link is also on What’s New.) –L. S.

GF Now Puts His Article About Trump In March PT:

February 4, 2021

Since GF now has a “From the Editor” about Trump in the March Philadelphia Trumpet, I am sending you an article I wrote about this: Gerald Flurry Sweeps Trump Prophecy Under the Rug. I think one of the purposes of your site is to help others see where these people are wrong. And since this is the only thing they are focusing on at the moment, this is the reason I’m hammering them about it.  Obviously, they are aware of people like us criticizing them, whether it is in the letters or articles, it doesn’t matter. The main thing is that we don’t allow them to get away with their bold claims without a challenge. Let them know there are people out here who aren’t sheople like those still in that group, who are are easily deceived. –M. G.

GF Denies He Gave a Prophecy/So Much Vanity Coming From GF’s Mouth:

(Letter has been updated with more info we were given)

February 4, 2021

GF recently denied that what he said was a prophecy, but only “words” that he said. (“This is not a failed prophecy, it’s not a prophecy at all. It’s what ‘I’ said”) This was in his January 23 sermon.

He also said, “Everybody has to be”tried and tested” and even brought out that, “Maybe some of our co-workers need to be shaken up by something like this (the false prophecy). Maybe that’s exactly what they need.”

He keeps trying to cover over his lies. He said he was “sorry for upsetting some people–unless that’s what God wants done.” It’s never a genuine apology. He even said, “The Apostles were 2,000 years off” and then chuckled about it.

He was filled with so much vanity in this January 23 sermon (“Where Are We in Bible Prophecy? Pt. 2”) and boasted, “There has been all kinds of new revelation given to me–over 50 books and booklets have new revelation that God has given to ME.” He said there were no such people besides himself where you could get new revelation.

He always talks about how God wants them to ROAR out of Zion and if they do that then God will take them to a place of safety. The only “roaring” I’ve ever heard is when he raises his voice and starts yelling. Who wants to hear that? But that is supposed to be part of the “power” he’s always talking about.

He doesn’t even talk about Christ saving us and coming into our lives but said, “God is going to come back and slaughter them all and then start a new civilization.” That’s the kind of Christ he worships. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Comment: When GF told members it wasn’t a prophecy at all, but only words that he said, that is not true. Go to Gerald Flurry and His False Trump Prophecies” and notice the first paragraph under the heading “Trump Going to Remain President” where he says, “God has not shown me where there is any error in that prophecy that I have made.”

GF: Lunatic Ideas and Erroneous Theology:

February 17, 2021

After the new U.S. president was sworn in, GF gave another of his sermons with lunatic ideas and erroneous theology. Here are just a few:

He believes Satan has already been cast down to earth–but members have “angelic protection.” However, Laodiceans (since they didn’t go with GF) are not so fortunate and Satan is “stamping all over them.”

Only PCG can see the “vision” and “can prove it” since, as GF says, “We are a special people before God.” The world “has to listen to this one last message” from GF. You hear this in all his sermons. Everything is always one last–“one last chance,” “one last warning,” etc. How many one lasts are there?

I had to shake my head when he said, “If you remain loyal to God, you are never going to be spiritually alone.” He won’t come out and say that what he really means is: “If you remain loyal to PCG government.” But even so, what does that have to do with being “spiritually alone”? Perhaps it means “alone” when you are thrown out of PCG.

The word “loyal” isn’t even in the KJV which is what GF uses (except when he twists words from some other version such as the Moffat). What escapes GF is that loyal is primarily what God is to us. We are told in the Word of God that even if we are faithless, He remains faithful. (See II Timothy 2:13 NKJV:” If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.”) Why is that not understood by those in PCG?

I would say it is because members are not being taught that if they belong to Christ, nothing can take away their salvation. [Note: See Q&A: Can We Ever Lose Our Salvation?] The Word of God continually says God will never leave us or forsake us and that He continues to work in us until the end of our life. (See Philippians 1:26 KJV: “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:” and Hebrews 13:5 KJV: “…he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.”

GF said to “study the new Trumpet magazine…especially the feature articles as they are truly outstanding.” Folks, how about studying the book of Colossians without PCG literature and find the treasures in Christ? (Colossians 2:3 KJV: “In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.”) We have everything we need in Christ. But that isn’t enough for GF.

He quoted from HWA so many times that I lost track of which were HWA’s words and which were GF’s, He said we are “going to rule the Universe” and “restore the Universe” (this doctrine comes from the Mormons) and we need to “get our minds on the New Jerusalem.” How about saying “get our minds on Christ” who is our only hope. (See Colossians 1:27: “Christ in you, the hope of glory:“)

Towards the end of his sermon he said, “This is our future”and talked about the “power” we are going to be given. It’s all about power with GF. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

GF Looking Through the Lens of Gnosticism:

February 17, 2021

GF (as HWA did) is looking through the lens of Gnosticism. (This is not to mention his “revelations” and hearing what he thinks is the voice of God.) Gnosticism is a very old heresy that teaches that the truth has to be decoded, uncovered, unlocked, unveiled, discovered. This was clearly shown on the chart in your article: Did Herbert Armstrong Have God’s Truth? (Includes New Age & Occultic similarities). –T. S.

GF Never Mentions The Horrible Things Happening in OK:

February 18, 2021

It’s funny how GRF never mentions all the horrible things that happen in Oklahoma, but is always quick to mention how “God is cursing California due to how they treated HWA and WCG.” –Former WCG/PCG member

PCG Members Told to Take a Stand and Die If Necessary:

February 19, 2021

Before his transfer to Edstone, England Wayne Turgeon gave a Bible study where he kept quoting HWA and told how HWA in a 1984 sermon said (and I quote): “We are becoming God teachers.”

He cited Romans 8:31 and then said, “How dare anyone come against a true Christian? They don’t know what they’re dealing with and what they’re messing with.” He went on to say, “But do we always realize who’s behind us, and who’s backing us when the times get tough? Or are we going to run like the flip-flopping politicians? Or are we willing to take a stand and die if necessary?” He added, “If we are loyal to God (translation: loyal to PCG govt.), He always watches over us.”

He also said, “We pray we will all be together soon in that place of safety wherever that might be. Things are going to get worse before they get better.” –Bible study critiqued by L. S.

Comment: Read: Members to Develop the Faith to Face Death (2007 letter to ESN)

Note: Joel Hilliker has replaced Wayne Turgeon as principal of Imperial Academy.

Wayne Turgeon Is Arrogant:

February 21, 2021

First of all, thanks to Exit and Support Network™ and all the people who take the time to post things here so others can hear what is happening in the PCG and other places.

When I was attending the PCG I was not married and I would go out on dates with women in the PCG whenever I had time or whenever I felt like it. After I had been attending for about 7 years– and that arrogant Wayne Turgeon was the “Regional Director” of the area I lived in–he had the nerve to Email me and tell me that I had been attending the PCG long enough as a single man and I needed to pick some woman who I liked and start “Marriage Counseling.” –Former PCG member

Constant Throat Clearing:

February 20, 2021

Why are so many of these ministers in PCG constantly having to clear their throat? Without fail, Gerald Flurry will start off sounding like he has something wrong with his throat, and it takes him awhile to talk normally as he makes his “throat noises”; Brian Davis does it, and now I’ve heard Wayne Turgeon doing it. –Anonymous.

Thank You for Posting the Link to the Song That Helped Me:

February 21, 2021

I am very happy with the decision you took to post the link [to “He Who Began a Good Work in You” (with lyrics)], so this song can help other persons healing in a very mellow way, as it did me. It is also full of hope. God really inspired the author of this song. He can do so much with simple things.

I will continue to go on your site. There is so much to learn. Keep up your good work! –Mario [first name used with permission]

Comment: Mario’s has two testimonies on the site are: “I Was Almost Got Sucked Into the Swirl of PCG,” and “I Was Wounded More Deeply than I Thought.” See January 2 letter above. (The song is linked to the last testimony at the end since it was mentioned by him in his testimony.)

Gerald Flurry Trying to Give Himself a New Look:

February 25, 2021

I noticed that GF has a different photo of himself on his site now, trying to give a “new look” to himself by placing a slight smile on his previously sourpuss face. He is trying very hard to look and behave like HWA, down to the same type glasses, same hairstyle, same hand and arm movements, same furrowed brow, and appearing to look very studious with an open Bible in front of him on a large mahogany desk with a massive amount of books in back of him. –[name withheld]

Comment: The only thing it seems that GF can do is copy his idol HWA.

No Qualms Studying Thought Reform:

February 25, 2021

After reading much on your site, I have ascertained that GF, his son, and all their spineless, obedient lackeys have no qualms studying thought reform to control their followers. The only truth they have is the ability to screw people’s minds up. No way are they preaching the pure gospel of grace. I don’t see how they could even believe in God. The evil is that they don’t give a damn about what they’re doing to people. The Lake of Fire awaits them. –Impacted by PCG

Youth in PCG Must Get Ready for the Second Coming:

February 26, 2021

PCG has 890 youths right now that are high school age and down and ripe for brainwashing.

GF stated, “We must get our young people ready for the 2nd coming.” The major way he said PCG will accomplish this is through their families and through Imperial Academywhich is for Kindergarten through 12th grade and whose principal is now SS Henchman Joel Hilliker, the man who himself has stated that parents are to “instruct their children in the way of God; instructing them all the time.”  –[name withheld]

GF Says He Doesn’t Want to Sound Vain or Proud:

February 27, 2021

This comes straight from the horse’s mouth. GF in his sermon “Where Are We in Bible Prophecy?” when referring to Amos 7, said, “I don’t want to sound vain or proud, but the truth is, nobody would even understand Amos 7, if God didn’t reveal it to me[voice get quiet] unless He did it some other way. heehee. That is a fact.” –Info forwarded from PCG source

Jim Cocomise Suspended:

February 28, 2021

A reliable source recently confirmed that Jim Cocomise from the Dayton/Cincinnati area has been suspended, but the reason why is not known. He had not been attending since January of this year. –Anonymous

Comment: Doing a search on our site for Jim Cocomise will show what kind of minister he was. See April 15 letter below which shows Cocomise is attending again but not as a minister.

Cocomise Must Have Ticked Someone Off:

March 1, 2021

The news about Jim Cocomise finally leaked out but no one knows the reason why he was suspended. If he is ever allowed to come back, he will never be permitted to hold the position of minister again. He must have ticked off someone that was high in the upper levels because his suspension would have had to be approved through GF himself.–[name withheld]

Gerald Flurry Getting Crazier by the Day:

March 1, 2021

In a previous post someone commented how GF had a “new look.” I found a different photo of him on one of his other pages with that smug grin on his face and to me he looks downright sinister!

I had the “honor” to listen to Pt. 3 of his sermon “Where are We in Bible Prophecy?” and it was all I could stomach to listen to a few parts. He is getting crazier by the day. He focused on nothing but Tribulation, wrath, punishment, death, how many are going to die, how there won’t be many left, Germany is going to strike and kill, etc. I don’t know how members can sit there week after week and listen to this bull crap doom and gloom.

He said the Prayer Rock they are in possession of is “a symbol of Jesus Christ.” (A rock in the Bible is a symbol of Christ but not HWA’s prayer rock! As mentioned in the article Idolatry in the PCG, this rock is nothing but blatant idolatry!)

Here are some other things he said:

“Who are we that God would entrust us to deliver this message to this world and especially three nations of Israel and God’s Laodicean church most of all. The PCG has the New Throne of David and the New Stone of Destiny. That’s putting us in a pretty close proximity to God.”

He was downright arrogant when he started criticizing Evangelicals and saying, “How much do those people who are following Trump–how much do they know about their Bible? You could almost say zero. They are getting further away from God all the time.” (Who is getting further from God? Isn’t it GF?) “We have to learn you can’t follow a puny little man [i.e., Trump]” (And who is following puny little Gerald Flurry??) “They don’t obey much of anything in the Bible. They don’t obey God and they don’t want to obey God. But they will follow Jeroboam [i.e., Trump] And that’s their great sin.” (What about those who are following GF? Isn’t that a great sin?)

He raised  his voice when he said, “God’s wrath is on this nation!” and “This is a strong message that we have to deliver to these people!”

The more I listened to him the more delusional I could see he is becoming and the more of a headache I got. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Broken and Abused Youth and Members Inside:

March 2, 2021

I don’t see any chance for the Flurries and his ministers at the top since it is clear they are sociopathic and have given themselves over to be servants of Satan the Devil. But I do feel for the broken, abused youth and members trapped inside. I pray their eyes will be opened and they will be able to leave and be set free. –Impacted by PCG

Eric Burns to Replace Jim Cocomise:

March 2, 2021

Eric Burns will be leaving Edmond to replace Jim Cocomise in the Northeast Region. Brad MacDonald, regional director in the UK and Europe, replaced Eric Burns as the assistant dean of students at HQs in Edmond. –Anonymous

Bogus Letters Read by PCG:

March 5, 2021

The letters that PCG reads to its members are what I believe to be bogus letters, basically made up to keep members believing what GF says. If you’ve studied how to spot fake reviews or letters, they all have too much glowing praise, lots of superlatives, exclamation marks, repetition, use of buzzwords, no critical thinking, and no criticism whatsoever. –Anonymous

Comment: This has been brought up before and the letters sound too much like something a PCG minister would write.

My Family Knew Jim Cocomise and John Cocomise:

March 6, 2021

I appreciate being updated about happenings in the PCG over the years through your site.

I read the letter on your site saying Jim Cocomise was suspended and has been replaced by Eric Burns. All this is very concerning news. My family was very close to both John Cocomise and his brother Jim. The no contact ruling caused a very sad, grievous division for about the past 18 years.

I know it is too early to have any hope of members’ eyes being opened but I long for the day. Some of the stories I’ve read on Jim and John’s dealings with PCG members are disturbing. [Note by ESN: Do a search on both their names] Just for the record this is not who they were prior to being part of the PCG “ministry.”

Another ironic thing is Jim Cocomise and Eric Burns lived many years [in the past] in the same town while in the PCG. Their families grew up together and were tightly knit. Now they use Eric to replace him. –Former PCG member [name withheld]

Lies in Sermon by SF Will Keep Members Under the Law:

March 6, 2021

[The following were notes were sent to us by a PCG source and L. S. has added comments.]

SF in a recent sermon “Focus on the Lamb of God” (which did not focus on the Lamb of God but on sin and the Law), was filled with what I call lies. He also quoted from HWA many times.

SF says, “Jesus had to be crucified because God won’t compromise with his Law.”

Lie. Christ willingly shed his blood on Calvary and rose again in order to pay for the sins of the entire world. He was foreordained (chosen) to be the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. I Peter 1:20; Revelation 13:8.

SF says, “The view [in the world] is that He [Jesus] did it all for us and that is a cop-out.”

Lie. The truth is that He did do it all for us. Ephesians 1:7; II Corinthians 5:21, and many more Scriptures. This is the gospel of grace.

SF says, “What Christ went through is proof that God’s Law is active and valid and in force.” He added that Luke 24 says it.

Lie. The Bible says no such thing. Jesus is telling His disciples in Luke 24 that Moses and all the prophets spoke of the things concerning Himnot the law. (See Luke 24:25-27) Read our articles: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God and Must We Keep the Law for Salvation?

SF says, “Jesus had to die because God won’t compromise with His Law.” Quoted HWA as saying it is false what “people in the world are saying that Jesus did these things for us because we can’t keep the law perfectly.” Quoted HWA as saying, “We have to keep the Law in order to be saved” and “God won’t receive you just as you are.”

Lie. The Scriptures say “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (II Corinthians 5:21) There are no works of the Law involved in salvation. It is a free gift. John 3:16. Read some of our articles in our section Law & Grace and especially many of Bob George‘s “A Closer Look” booklets.

SF continually quoted words by HWA from his sermons and articles, which  will always sound good and right until you exam them in the light of God’s Word. Read our article: Why Herbert Armstrong Could Not Have Been God’s True Apostle.

SF says, “Young people have left PCG recently; they weren’t making the necessary changes they should have. In the end Satan overcame them.”

Lie. Maybe these young people wanted out from under the burdens in PCG and to be able to make their own decisions.

SF says, “If you don’t commit to a life of overcoming you will become calloused and drift away from God.”

Lie. Victory comes by resting in Christ, not struggling. Go to our article: Must We Keep the Law for Salvation? and search for the word “overcome.”

SF’s voice, the same as all top level PCG ministers I’ve heard gets very loud in the middle of this sermon.

SF says,”We are living it first now and then will teach the whole world how to do it.”

Lie. Members are not able to keep the Law perfectly so how can they teach the “whole world” in the future how to do it?

When we focus on the Law it arouses sin, and causes sin to have more power. See Must We Keep the Law for Salvation? and click on the question “Can you explain more about the works of the Law and salvation?”

This sermon will keep members in bondage to the Law not cause them to focus on “The Lamb of God” who took away the sin of the world. (John 1:29) –[name withheld] (additional comments by L. S.)

Contradictions and Twisting by Brad Macdonald Regarding Humility:

March 7, 2021

The previous letter which told how SF would not only take something from the Bible and twist it to mean something else but also say contradictory things, reminds me of a Bible study someone sent me with Brad Macdonald speaking about “Humility” and which was to prepare members for Passover. He said, “Humility is seeing yourself exactly as God sees you.” [Note by ESN: If we have the Holy Spirit, God sees us robed in the righteousness of Christ.] Then he went on to talk about how that humility can be vanity if we don’t see our potential (with the Holy Spirit).

He quoted from an old 1966 Good News which explained what humility is and said one of the marks of it is, “submissive to authority.” This is always twisted to mean authority to “government in PCG.”

He said, “If our children don’t have humility how can they have a relationship with God?”

I might also add that Macdonald’s voice did indeed get high in the middle of the sermon, almost to the point to where it sounded like a crotchety old woman. I don’t think I’ve ever heard it that bad. –Former member

Comment: All this humility by being “submissive to authority” has led to much abuse in PCG, physically and emotionally, whether it be from the husband or the minister. As we mention in the last paragraph of our article, “Are You Being Abused by Your Husband?” “There is no place in Scripture that shows leaders in the N.T. church have the authority to give personal advice and direction in the life of believers. That means there is no military model of church government that is supported by the Word of God.”

PCG Has Produced Their Own “The Bible Story”:

March 8, 2021

WCG still owns the copyright to the first six volumes of The Bible Story but, according to PCG’s Church page under the News tab, there is an article by Philip Nice, dated April 17, 2020, “Member Contributes Bible Story Podcast,” which tells how PCG “has produced seven additional volumes, covering Bible history from King David through the apostles.” Michael Strachan records the stories (with sound effects) which are aired on KPCG. The article mentions Joel Hilliker’s enthusiastic reaction after hearing a sample of  Volume 1.

I then happened to find a page under their “Resources” tab that says “Bible Story” and clicking on that it shows pictures of The Bible Story, Volumes 7 through 13. The colored pictures on the outside are nothing like what were on WCG’s The Bible Story, When you click on each book it opens up in as .pdf. This could be what Nice is narrating from. I did not have time to see all that the books are saying, but volume 7 said: copyright 2013 by PCG; Text by Robert Morley and David Brandon. Volume 13 said copyright 2019. Who knows what they’re trying to accomplish with these books. –A. R.

Note. As of 2020, Robert Morley was Western U.S. local elder.

Purpose of PCG’s The Bible Story Books?

March 9, 2021

What is the purpose of PCG’s The Bible Story books? To keep the young children occupied until they get into the “hard” PCG stuff?  –Anonymous

Reply: PCG is unable to make a Bible Story book since they don’t understand the true gospel or salvation. In checking a few volumes, we found subtle twisting of the Scriptures while inserting PCG doctrine. Here are a few quotes from the Volume 11 which covered Jesus talking with Nicodemus: (ESN comments in blue and bold emphasis added)

“Then, once converted, he will be born into God’s Kingdom when Jesus Christ establishes it on Earth. [no Bible verses to back this up] Being ‘born of water’ refers to a person being begotten spiritually by repenting, being baptized [by PCG ministers] and allowing ministers [only PCG ministers] to pray for God to give that person His Holy Spirit.” [no Bible verses to back this up]

“Being born ‘of the Spirit’ refers to a person growing spiritually [translation: growing in character which means growing more obedient to PCG government] and being resurrected as a spirit being into the Kingdom of God.” [no mention of a bodily resurrection; denial of a bodily resurrection was the first heresy in the church; download our first review of Mystery of the Ages and see chapter 6, Pt. 1.]

What PCG teaches is blatantly false. See our section on Grace & Law and especially our two reviews of Mystery of the Ages which cover these topics. [available as PDF on our downloads page]

“Jesus told Nicodemus that his Father loved every human being…” [this is how they reword John 3:16 where Jesus talks about God so loved the world that whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have eternal life] “Jesus also warned Nicodemus about the evil, satanic nature that human beings have.” (John 3:18-19) [Jesus said nothing about an “evil, satanic nature”; He said those who don’t believe on Him are condemned already because their deeds (not nature) were evil]

In the Introduction to each of these volumes it says, “Volume [such and such] describes the establishment of God’s one true Church [buzzword, meaning PCG; The Bible doesn’t doesn’t use the words “one true church”] on the day of Pentecost in a.d. 31.”

PCG Men Knew Their Brains Were Superior to Women’s:

March 12, 2021

When I was in PCG, I noticed that the fellowshipping was almost completely segregated among male-female lines. There were a few men in our area who insisted their wives stand right beside them every moment. The wife was not allowed to talk to another woman without her husband’s approval; he had to be right there to hear every word said to her, and she could not give an opinion unless it was his opinion. It was a horrible abuse of power from puny little men with puny little brains and puny little masculinity, who were big losers in real life, but on Saturday they could put on a polyester leisure suit and pretend to be important by browbeating their wives. In general, women just did not talk to men in PCG because men knew their brains were created superior, and that women did not have the reasoning ability they did, which is why God put them in charge. I also remember a lot of women reading plenty of “stand-by-your-man-right-or-wrong” books, which is absolutely the wrong thing to read in an abusive situation. –Former PCG member

Exhausting to Deal With Parent in PCG:

March 14, 2021

I found your site a couple of years ago, but wanted to know if you have any additional resources in regard to family members being influenced? My parent is a follower of PCG. It  is all quite exhausting having to deal with a standoffish person constantly, as I am not a follower of this “church” and do not know how to speak to my parent properly about [certain issues]. Isn’t the point of religion to teach how to live truthfully, authentically, and respect for your common neighbor? PCG has done so much damage to my family, and I feel it’s just going to get worse. –Impacted by PCG [name withheld]

Comment: This person has received a personal reply. Also see, “If You Have a Loved One in a Deceptive, Exploitive Group.”

Members Told Not to Take Satan’s Bait:

March 19, 2021

Roger Brandon recently gave a sermonette where he told members not to take Satan’s Bait. (Comments by L. S.)

He threw out the question, “Have you ever wondered what Satan is doing during the days leading into Passover and Days of Unleavened Bread?” (Comment: This causes the members to concentrate right away on Satan.)

Then he told them Satan is getting them to “leave the church” and “bait them into sinning” and if they do those things, he can “slowly erode their faith.” He quoted from HWA more than once. (Comment: Brandon doesn’t mention that even though Satan tempts Christians in many ways, “we are not unaware of his schemes” [II Corinthians 2:11] and we can take up “the shield of faith” to “quench all the fiery darts” thrown at  us [Ephesians 6:16].)

He talked about Satan “broadcasting in attitudes and moods” and “sometimes we can’t resist that bait.” (Comment: This is referring to how HWA always said Satan had some sort of “wavelength” that he sends out through the air broadcasting bad attitudes. This is the opposite of Ephesians 6:10-18, a passage which talks about more than “Satan” having some sort of “bait.”)

He quoted I Peter 5:8 and said, “Satan is “always on the job” and” Satan is out to destroy us.” (Comment: These words do nothing but concentrate on fear.)

Then he laid guilt on the members, by saying, “When we fall it’s because we’re not close enough to God.”  (Comment: It’s because we are not depending wholly on Christ and standing fast in His grace [I Peter 5:12 and Colossians 2:5, steadfastness in Christ, which Brandon didn’t quote because he left out grace and Christ as our Helper.)

He told them there is “grave danger” in getting their minds on themselves. Because then they “can’t really comprehend Passover or conquer the Devil.” (Comment: It is Jesus, not us, who is the one that goes forth to “conquer” [Revelation 6:2]. Also read: How can I observe Passover if I’ve left the group? from our Q&A which also talks about Passover).

He said Satan has the “right bait” for each of us and it might be to: not pay our tithes, control our temper, lack of patience, lust of the flesh, or words we hear from others and how we react. (Comment: Tithing and offerings have always been a major doctrine in PCG, especially during the holy days. Read: “Tithing and Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.”)

One of the worst things he said was that God won’t even hear our prayers (he quoted Isaiah 59:2) and added that “Our sins separate us from God.” (Comment: This is seriously in error since God has forgiven all our sins through Christ Jesus. Read: “The Sin Question.” PCG ministers are known to constantly quote from the O. T. which was the old covenant and Christians are not under the old covenant.)

There was so much emphasis on striving with a focus on Satan in this sermonette. (Comment: Brandon does not want to emphasize that we who have trusted Christ and his free gift of eternal life are overcomers because “the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world” (1 John 4:4). He does not focus on Christ and what He has already done for us. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Finding a Copy of the Trumpet Was Like a Slap in the Face:

March 23, 2021

Hello! I am a child survivor of PCG and my mom told me about this site. We went to services when it was being led by Aaron Eagle, Sr. My dad was the main one who went, my mom only went a handful of times. He started attending PCG after ditching WCG in the late 90s. … Last year I found a copy of Philadelphia Trumpet at my doctor’s office which started my interest in finding others (I was so shocked when I saw it–like a slap in the face). I’ve managed to reconnect with one person. I would like to receive the ESN Email list. –[name withheld]

GF Doesn’t Fellowship With the Devil:

March 25, 2021

GF wants to make us think he’s doing a great work. He said PCG has their literature in 10 foreign languages now and that it was “miraculous.” According to Ethnologue, there are currently 7,099 living languages in the world, and at least one portion of Scripture has been translated for 3,312 of these languages. GF can’t hold a candle to that. All he is interested in is boasting about himself. He does not preach the gospel about Jesus Christ and Him crucified as Paul and the Apostles did. (Acts 5:42; I Corinthians 1:23, etc.) Why isn’t he partnering with others to get more Bibles out in other languages? Because he’s made it clear he doesn’t “fellowship with the Devil.” [i.e., mainstream Christians] –Former member

Crazy  Statement by Wayne Turgeon:

March 28, 2021

I read the article about Wayne Turgeon’s sermon where he emphasized Christ only died for those in the “one true Church”) meaning PCG, which was great. But you forgot to add at the end the crazy statement that Wayne Turgeon said which was formerly linked in the letter. –G. R.

Reply: Thanks for bringing this up. It has now been added at the end, along with linking to a related letter and testimony about Wayne Turgeon. Wayne Turgeon is Gerald Flurry’s son-in-law. We also discovered that what Turgeon said about “keeping your nose stuck in church literature” was also  in the testimony: Life at Herbert W. Armstrong College where Turgeon said the same thing back then to students. (This link goes to the paragraph with Turgeon’s words.)

Services for Spring Holy Days Long and Tiring:

March 29, 2021

Members attend all day services for the first and last days of Unleavened Bread, from mid morning until very late afternoon. This is not unlike the early years in the WCG when members met for two services on the Holy Days and spent all day with the brethren. Many times they had to travel hours away to the meeting place. This makes for a very long and tiring day, especially for the children –J.

Winston Davis and His Remarriage:

March 29, 2021

Do you know who made the unfortunate decision to marry Winston Davis? He got remarried on November 22, 2020. I am just floored someone would actually agree to marrying him! –B. C.

Reply: Winston Davis, a preaching elder in South Carolina, and the father of so-called “laughing” Brian Davis (who himself remarried nine months after the death of his 2nd wife), married Brenda Fox.

PCG Sermons Are Spiritual Poison:

March 29, 2021

When my mate in PCG listens to the broadcast or sermons, I can hear GF’s, SF’s and other ministers’ voices but I can’t make out clearly what they’re saying and I don’t want to. I stay in the other room or find something to do when those sermons or programs come on. I don’t want that spiritual poison in my mind. It doesn’t take me long to want to exit the room when that garbage comes on. Speaking from experience, it makes for a crowded life when you have a mate in PCG. You always feel GF’s presence in your lives. Cult leaders make for an uncomfortable “third wheel.” –Impacted by loved one in PCG

GF Emphasizing the Devil:

March 30, 2021

GF likes to refer to mainstream Christians as “of the Devil” [see March 25 letter], but he is the one who is constantly emphasizing the words, “the Devil.” His frequent use of the word betrays the company he keeps. –W. A.

Smartphone Policy Being Brought up Again:

March 30, 2021

Smartphones were forbidden to be used by those on campus last year (read November 19, 2020 letter: “PCG Ruling Says No Smartphones Allowed“). It was January 24, 2020 when Andrew Locher gave a sermon about “Technology Use” where he said using smart devices will “destroy our teenagers.” That was the time G. Flurry put in place policies that would eliminate Smartphones on campus to “set the example for the brethren,” even though some did not obey that policy at the time.

The February 21, 2020 phone policy update said full time ministers were “expected to switch from their Smartphones to a future phone.” However, if some needed a Smartphone for their business, that was okay. G. Flurry “approved” the use of i-pads if you needed one. Then the April 2020 Pastor General’s Report reiterated again that the cell phone policy for ministers was that ministers should not be using Smartphones unless they were required to use one for their business. There were no exceptions for this policy. Minister’s wives were likewise expected to make the transition away from Smartphones.

Not all members have been following this policy because this subject about Smartphones was brought up again at the recent PCG Ministerial Conference when Stephen Flurry gave a lecture. He talked about what he called “the signs of warning and danger” for the congregation if they used Smartphones. One of the warning signs he said was “too much technology.”

Wayne Turgeon on day two of the conference gave a lecture on “Materialism” [Note by ESN: Why then did Turgeon in a 2021 sermon refer to all the materialism, riches and luxuries at HQs as “perks and fringe benefits” for being the few first fruits on this earth?] and said, “Materialism [not Charles Darwin] is the father of evolution and what we call human nature is really Satan’s nature. [Note by ESN: Human nature is that which makes us distinctly human] … People change a little at a time in the direction of the masses as they are influenced a little at a time.” This sounded to me exactly how PCG members change a little at a time as they are influenced by the leader’s use of mind control.

I know several members in PCG who all have Smartphones. But if G. Flurry continues his crack down, the day could come when we’ll see them with a flip phone again. It’s ridiculous to what lengths PCG will go to in order to keep members from finding out the truth about PCG. I know GF is also worried about someone recording their sermons with these Smartphones.

Members have been told that if they want to overcome they must hear what God (i.e., PCG government) is saying about this.

Members, however, are still using Smartphones. –Info forwarded from PCG source

Comment: To understand more about the control methods PCG is using, see “Lifton’s Eight Criteria of Thought Reform.”

PCG a Fake Church and Dangerous Cult:

April 3, 2021

I am in agreement with the person who said PCG reads or prints mostly bogus (“made up”) letters. [See 3-5-21 letter]. If letters aren’t focusing on how someone’s life has been changed because of Christ, and contain too much effusive praise, I am suspicious of them.

The same holds true with PCG bragging about how “large” their offerings are during the holy days. The identical boasting happened under HWA’s reign. During the Feast it was always “let’s see if we can top that.” Unless we are able to view their financial records or hear from someone who worked at HQs and then left, we have no way of knowing for sure, as they lie most of the time.

About GF’s “new” look. I have never seen a picture of any of these so-called ministers with a true-life smile on their faces. Stephen Flurry’s goofy smile looks like he can’t quite smile. I have reservations if any of them even know how to express an honest smile that exhibits authentic joy, the kind that comes from the Holy Spirit. And there are no pictures of their staff on their website. They only display two pictures–Gerald Flurry and Herbert Armstrong–which reveal exactly who they idolize. No one could dream when coming across their impressive site that they are in actuality a fake church and dangerous cult that will mess up their life in a profound way.

Being aligned with Satan and using his schemes is the only reason they have accomplished as much as they have with all their monies. There is an old saying: “Satan takes care of his own.” Their day is coming, and hopefully soon, when they will answer for every evil they have ever done. –T. S.

PCG Receives $1 Million From Non-Member:

April 3, 2021

GF recorded a sermon on March 27 which was played the afternoon of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. I was able to listen to it and he announced that a non-member donated $1 million to the PCG. He said he didn’t know who the non-member was but he said he had some sort of corporation. –L. S.

PCG’s $1 Million Offering Sounds Suspicious:

April 5, 2021

I read about how PCG received $1 million from a non-member as an offering. Makes me wonder if the PCG is involved in money laundering. “Churches” (and cults like WCG) have been used for that before.

I remember how PCG was involved in the 2012 Seabreeze Collusion money laundering in South Africa with Max Rumler and Alex Foster exposed it. [Note: Go to Articles on Gerald Flurry and read Letter #1 and Letter #2 to Gerald Flurry from Alex Foster about proof of major theft going on in South Africa PCG.]

I’m surprised GF would mention this “offering” to the members, unless of course he figured that the news would eventually leak out anyway, and he didn’t want to appear surprised. By announcing it before the news leaked (a donation that size would leak out, sooner or later), he kept in control of the situation, plus, he was able to give his reason for the “offering” (or donation).

I just find it highly unlikely that someone, anyone, would just donate $1 million to the PCG for whatever reason. There’s something in it for them, and it sounds crooked. “Getting the message out” from Jerusalem or whatever reason that the PCG is giving to the members sounds like a cover. Like I said, sounds suspicious. –W. C.

Comment: Money laundering was mentioned in OIU #5, pt 3 and OIU #6 pt 3 (search for those words in the OIU Newsletters when they open up). [opens as PDF]

Article on Fred Dattolo Was Very Much Needed:

April 6, 2021

The new article on Fred Dattolo [Fred Dattolo Gives a Warning to PCG Members] was very much needed. He was one of the ministers held responsible in the death of Dan De Gennaro’s daughter Janet due to the no-contact ruling. What misery that man has caused. –H. E.

Reply: We just added links at the end to De Gennaro’s testimony which includes Dattolo’s name in several places and also to the 2020 PCG letter (“Dangerous Lion’s Den”) where he screamed at a member.

Not the Only One Who Has Been Slandered and Backstabbed:

April 9, 2021

Since I discovered your website a year ago, I have read most of the letters and many of your other articles. I have come to see I am not the only one who has been slandered and backstabbed. The PCG ministers do not want anyone discussing what they have said or for any information about them to leak out. You are doing a great service and I admire you for having the courage to speak out. As for that person who came at you and criticized you and your work, I am sure it must happen as there must be many who make a hobby of going about seeing who they can trouble and discredit. Thank you all. –Former member of PCG

PCG Will Do Whatever They Can to Protect Themselves:

April 9, 2021

In response to your last posted letter about the PCG–same boat here, lied about and slandered by the ministry. You are definitely not alone.

Over the last several years it was starting to become clear things weren’t right and the hypocrisy was so bad you could no longer turn a blind eye to it. If you ask questions, they’ll assess the situation, and if they feel they can not regain 100% control over you then you can be sure you are then on your way out, one way or another, they’ll see to it. It was a sickening experience especially after being indoctrinated for so long, but in the end I’m thankful as it lead to open eyes about the PCG/Armstrongism. They will do whatever they have to in order to protect themselves and the organization.

I just wanted to write this after seeing the previous letter, because as it’s happening it can feel like you are alone. I know reading these can help others who are no doubt going through the same thing. Thank you ESN. –Anonymous former PCG member

PCG Feast Sites for 2021:

(A few of these were secured in July)

April 10, 2021

The Feast Sites for 2021 are:

Edmond, OK (Headquarters)

Edstone, England (not open to transfers)

Rapid City, SD

Tannersville (Poconos), PA

Welches (Mt. Hood), OR

Greenville, SC (final year for this site)

Phoenix, AZ

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Plantations Estate, Tobago

Queensland (NE Australia)

Victoria (SE Australia)

Western Australia

South Australia

New South Wales

Clark, Philippines

Limburgse Peel, the Netherlands

Columbia. South America

Guatemala (Central America)

Limuru, Kenya (Eastern Africa)

Bergville, South Africa


New Zealand


Papua New Guinea (finalizing)

Manila, Philippines (virtual?)

–[name withheld]

PCG Charging Members to Attend Their Activities at the Feast:

April 10, 2021

In the earlier years when people went to the FOT in the WCG there were many different activities for everyone and no one ever had to pay to attend any of them. Members could, however, if they wanted, purchase reasonably priced small sandwiches (under a tent on a softball field for example) at sites such as the Ozarks. But PCG members today must purchase tickets online (for U.S. sites only) by August 18, 2021 if they plan to attend any of the PCG functions at the FOT. And their purchases must appear on the back of their name badges. Here are some examples:

1st Holy Day Luncheon Ticket $12.00-$25.00
Sabbath Luncheon Ticket $12.00-$25.00
Senior Luncheon Ticket $25.00
Family Day Ticket $12.00-$20.00
Teen Activity Ticket $35.00
Singles Mixer Ticket $25.00
Older Singles Event Ticket $50.00
Younger Singles Activity Ticket $50.00
Last Great Day Luncheon Ticket $12.00-$25.00

This is simply another way for GF to extract a little more money out of the members. –[name withheld]

Certain Members Relegated to the Basement or the Balcony During Feast Services:

April 10, 2021

Members with small children are to be seated in the basement of Armstrong Auditorium during Feast services. If you are in a wheelchair, are hard of hearing, or have translation needs, you are to sit in the balcony. (Taken from “Important Instructions” for PCG members attending or not attending the FOT). –[name withheld]

Important Feast Instructions Per Gerald Flurry:

April 11, 2021

GF has always had his strict rules for attending or not attending the Feast. I will only list a few excerpts (with comments):

(1) Name badges are required for those 18 (and out of high school) and older who will be attending North American Feast services. These pre-printed name badges must be obtained at the registration table prior to the Opening Night service… Please cooperate and wear yours. This rule has several reasons for enforcement. If you are told to go get your badge, do not argue or make excuses. (Comment: Don’t be rebellious. These name badges will help us pinpoint if someone has slipped into services who is not a member, especially if it is someone who wants to take pictures or cause trouble.)

(2) If you feel you are unable to attend the Feast for any reason, please counsel first with your local minister before making that final decision. (Comment: So he can find out if you haven’t been saving your 2nd tithe) If you are unable to attend, you still must register; (Comment: No reason; just do it. We may want to tally how many are in PCG.)

(3) If you have turned 18 and are out of high school, you must call HQs and update your status (ask for Accounts Receivable) (Comment: Accounts Receivable will show whether or not you have been robbing God with your tithes and offerings.)

(4) Females must wear one-piece swimsuits. One-piece swimsuits are the standard for females. The cut should not run too high up the thigh. A safe guideline would be for it to approximately follow the natural crease in the groin. Also, be sure it completely covers the buttocks. Tankinis are unacceptable unless the two pieces are sewn or tacked together so that they don’t come apart and expose the midsection. Swimsuits can be worn with skirts or shorts over them, but this is not required of our ladies. Lastly, as with shirts, no cleavage should be exposed. (Comment: We do not want our young men (or especially any of our ministers) gawking at the ladies and getting wrong ideas [as if they don’t have enough]. Read: What Happened At Robber’s Cave?)

–[name withheld]

Heretical Statements in Sermon by Joel Hilliker:

April 12, 2021

It would be far better if members in PCG could make the decision to walk away so they would not have to listen to the Bible being twisted week after week. The ministers do not know how to properly teach it because only the Holy Spirit can open someone’s mind to understand the Bible.

On the Last Day of Unleavened Bread, Joel Hilliker gave a sermon, “The Will to Be Righteous.”

There were many words by Joel about the Law and obedience and sin and “God really loves His Law.” He asked, “How much do we love God’s Law?” The question should have been, “How much do we love the Lord Jesus Christ?” But PCG will never say those words. Neither will they say, “Jesus is Lord” (which has been brought up before). PCG speaks more about the Law than they do grace. Read: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God.

He also did much quoting from books authored by HWA.

One of his many heretical statements in this sermon was when he said there was the possibility that God “knew He could lose His Son forever.” (before He came down to earth) What blasphemy! God never could have “lost His Son” because His Son, the Lord Jesus, was fully man and fully God.

Others heretical statements were when he said “God is reproducing Himself” and “God is recreating Himself in us” and “To fulfill His purpose, He (God) needs more beings like Himself.” This was a teaching from HWA (who copied it from the Mormons) and has been proven false in our two critical reviews of Mystery of the Ages. (See our PDF downloads)

The day will come when GF and all his high and mighty ministers who have hardened their hearts to the true gospel of Jesus Christ and His grace will face the judgement and “Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:11)

An excellent letter to read is: I Have Made the PCG a Thing of the Past.

–sermon critiqued by L. S.

Baptized Singles in PCG Worldwide:

April 14, 2021

A friend who just left PCG, told me there are approximately 390 baptized singles worldwide in PCG. –[name withheld]

PCG Cooks the Books:

April 14, 2021

From my experience, the reason GF wants members and their families to still register for the FOT even if they aren’t attending (i.e.,  unable to attend), is so they can “cook the books” on the number of attendees. –T. C.

Jim Cocomise Attending Again:

April 15, 2021

Jim Cocomise is attending PCG again in the Dayton-Cincinnati area but obviously not as a minister. My informant who is married to someone in PCG believes he will be moving to Florida soon. I would have never thought Cocomise would be allowed even to come back to services so soon. But I knew he would never be permitted to be a minister again. –OH

PCG Focusing on Death and Martyrdom:

April 19, 2021

The following notes were sent to ESN:

Andrew Locher, April 9 Bible Study, spoke on the “Mark of the Beast.”

Comment: For those who don’t know who Locher is, read April 17 letter: Shameless Sermonette Exploits Members Financially which shows a true picture of Andrew Locher.

AL: (Quoting HWA) “the mark is Sunday” and “those with the mark of the beast will suffer God’s wrath, but those without the mark will be tortured and killed by man. Do you want to die at the hands of man or by God? We can be protected in a Place of Safety during the Tribulation. It requires faith and obedience to God’s Law.”

Comment: What an option! To believe that “Sunday is the mark of the beast” came from the 7th-day Adventists, which HWA plagiarized from. Also read: What About Sunday Worship? and Sabbath and Sunday (Common Arguments and Misunderstandings) to show how this is absolute falsehood!

AL: “Satan was cast down at the death of HWA. It was the transition into the Laodicean era. The 7th head, the Holy Roman Empire is here.”

Comment: This is a myth and lie spread by PCG. There is no biblical basis at all for this. Satan will be cast down (Revelation 12:9 during the Great Tribulation which hasn’t even begun yet!

AL: “We are the only ones that keep the Sabbath.”

Comment: Those tutored under HWA have heard this a thousand times. What Locher is referring to is that PCG is the only ones that keep it like it should be kept. The 7th-day Adventists and other cults would disagree.

–[name of country withheld]

GF and His Spirit of Prophecy Sermon:

April 19, 2021

The following notes were gathered from a PCG conference in the past with Gerald Flurry giving a sermon, “The Spirit of  Prophecy”:

GF: (admitted he doesn’t emphasize certain verses or words on his programs because he) “will lose listeners.”

Comment: He definitely would lose listeners so he has to pussyfoot around in what he says.

GF: “God’s law is a law of love.”

Comment: There is no place in the Bible where it says God’s law is a “law of love.” The Law was given to the nation of Israel and not to the Church nor to the Gentiles. Read: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God.

GF: “God wants us to get it into our minds about the Father and the family.”

Comment: God is not a “family” of two (i.e., Father and Son) that man can be born into. God cannot change. Mike mentioned this in his Final Exit Letter to Craig Winters with Scripture references in Footnote #2. Jesus and the Father are One (John 1:1-4) What God wants  us to understand is about His Son who gave His life for us so we might have everlasting life.

GF: “The Laodiceans would forget everything in the Tribulation if it wasn’t for us. They will know they are being punished for their sins.”

Comment: GF continually focuses on the “Laodiceans.” I wonder if he will know he is being punished for his sins when he finds himself in the Tribulation?

GF: “If we don’t have the Law we are going to be deceived by the Devil.”

Comment: No, if we hold to the Law (have the Law), we will not understand the grace of God.

GF: “There is the possibility that we will be martyred. So what if you have to give up your life?”

Comment: GF takes a non-nonchalant view of members’ death as if to say, “Yeah, so what? No big deal.” He frightens them that they could be in the Tribulation when the Tribulation is referred to as “Jacob’s trouble”  (Jeremiah 30:7) and contrary to what he teaches, the church is not Jacob.

GF: “There is no way we can ever get in this Paradise without God teaching and correcting us.”

Comment: We are not living in O. T. times. “Teaching and correcting” by God has nothing whatsoever to do with whether we will be in Paradise. It is a matter of accepting the sacrifice of Jesus and trusting in Him for eternal life. Jesus took all our punishment (bare our sins) on Calvary. (I Peter 2:24)

GF: We will rule over all the universe and all the planets will blossom like a rose.

Comment: The Bible says not one word about us “ruling over all the universe. GF took this teaching from HWA who copied it from the Mormons (LDS). Also, it is the wilderness that is to blossom like a rose not the planets. (Isaiah 35:1) To say otherwise is a figment of one’s imagination.

GF: “God feeds us so much new revelation.”

Comment: No, GF thinks God is feeding him new revelation. GF’s “revelations” have contained nothing but biblical errors, false doctrines, and false prophecies! God said everything He had to say in the 66 books of the Bible.  This is a good offsite article with much info: Is God Still Giving Men Revelation Today?

GF: “The Laodiceans have no new revelation. God cuts them off because Elijah [HWA] prayed that He would.”

Comment: This view that HWA prayed and there was a 3 l/2 spiritual drought on the church (until PCG began) is total lunacy. This is covered in ESN’s reply to the letter: What is the Baptism Cut-Off Date of Laodiceans? / SF and Malachi’s Message.

GF: “The greatest woe on this earth was what happened to the Laodicean church.”

Comment: No, the greatest woe is what GF has concocted in his head for members to dwell on and which is keeping them from the freedom they could experience if they walked away from PCG.

–[name of country withheld]

GF Hung Up On Power and Lording it Over Others:

April 20, 2021

I notice Gerald Flurry picks and chooses the Scriptures he wants, taking them out of context, and leaving the ones that don’t jive with his “power” trip and “ruling the universe” theme. What the ****? I have rarely listened to him, but aren’t members desiring something else besides all this power? Or is that it? GF seems hung up on power and lording it over someone. –Anonymous

Reply: All false teachers are hung up on such ideas. HWA (whom GF copies) brought out this “ruling the universe” in his book, The Incredible Human Potential (written in 1978 and updated several times by PCG). This book is loaded with false doctrine but presented in a titillating way. We have thoroughly refuted these errors and heresies on our site, especially Chapter 1: “Christ’s Gospel Was Suppressed–Not Heard From the First Century Until Now) in our article: True Original Church/Faith Once Delivered (Proof Herbert Armstrong Lied About the “Lost” Church Century).

GF is known to eliminate Scriptures that show we are under grace and not Law, or else twist them (such as those in the book of Galatians). In the above sermon he took what he wanted from the book of Revelation but avoided verses like Revelation 22:17 which show all may come to God (“whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely”) or our being led unto living fountains of waters and having God wipe away all our tears; no more sorrow or crying (Revelation 7:17 and Revelation 21:4). Even Scriptures such as Christ saying come unto Him and He will give us rest (Matthew 11:28) are omitted or given a new meaning. Anything and everything GF considers too “wimpy” or “sanctimonious” is left out of his sermons, literature and broadcasts, and members have been conditioned to feel the same. GF will give account to God someday for all his evil such as the No Contact Ruling.

Why on Earth Would GF Want to Emulate HWA?

April 21 2021

Why on earth would GF want to emulate Herbert Armstrong, a man who incested his own daughter for ten years and then excused it?! –Anonymous

Reply: Again, it has to do with needing power and prestige. The incest story with accompanying links and sources at the end is here: Herbert Armstrong and the Incest. Also, Bruce Renehan (author of Daughter of Babylon) said when he studied abnormal psychology at Cal State, he “learned that cult leaders are often diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.”

Many Don’t Really Want the Truth:

April 21, 2021

Many are still entrapped in PCG because they can’t accept that anything other than what they believe to be “the truth” as told to them by GF and HWA as true. It’s sad, really. –[name withheld]

Reply: Many can’t handle the real truth about what they were involved in. That, along with how they may not even be converted. Read: What is the Spiritual Status of People in the HWA Groups?

SF Talks About Hypocrisy:

April 23, 2021

Heard a hard-to-listen-to Bible Study by Stephen Flurry awhile back (which members must listen to after the Sabbath sermon). He talked about “The Sin of Hypocrisy” which he said was “phoniness, lies and deception.” He said there is “fake religion” and the Devil has his “false apostles.” He talked about “prophesying in the name of the Lord.” I thought that was interesting. He talked about “fake Christians” in name only and how “they would look at us and say we are heretics.” Did quite a bit of running mainstream Christians down and said they have a “shallow belief in Christ.” –Bible study critiqued by L. S.

SF Saying Mainstream Christians are Fake Christians:

April 26, 2021

I would like to make a comment regarding what SF said in his Bible Study on “The Sin of Hypocrisy.” How does he know mainstream Christians are all “fake Christians” and that they have a “shallow belief in Christ”? Has he ever sat down with any of them and gotten to know them and heard their testimonies? Has he personally witnessed their lives? Has he read any of the biographies of Christians from the past that God has worked through? I am aware there are apostate churches in the world today and hypocrites, but SF is accusing all mainstream Christians of being fake. SF, just like his father, sets himself up as a judge of others–others he hasn’t even personally met. His belief is based on what HWA always said, that mainstream Christians are “of the Devil” and their churches were “Satan’s churches.” If the Devil has his “false apostles,” then what is GF? SF and GF think they are high and mighty above others in the world and that PCG is the only church God is working with (sign of a cult). PCG has the most arrogant, self-righteous group of people I know. How many of these members ever wake up and get out of there I don’t know but I do know that SF and GF know nothing about true, genuine Christians that love God. –J. B.

Comment: Let Us Reason Ministries has a lot of good information on apostasy, New Age, false teachers, etc., in the churches today.

Used to Believe We Would Be Fleeing During the FOT:

April 30, 2021

I remember brethren in PCG believing the Feast of Tabernacles would be the time when we would be told about fleeing to the Place of Safety. When we were to flee we would be given so many days to prepare. I think we were to go to Jerusalem first. Back in WCG we were also told we would go to Jerusalem first, then walk over into Petra. This had to be one of the most fear-driven teachings with many being anxious that they might not be going. –Former PCG member

Comment: The worse conditions get in the world, the more ammunition GF and SF have to keep teaching this.

PCG and Their Persecution Complex:

May 1, 2021

I wonder why more people don’t question why PCG won’t make their newsletter or sermons available to the public? The way they behave proves to me they are a secret society and cult. No legitimate Christian ministry would refuse to mail their newsletter to those who request it, or place their sermons online. I’ve been told PCG’s reason is: “We have to do things this way because Satan is persecuting God’s one true Church.” Heaven forbid that their precious information gets out to the public. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Gerald Flurry’s Jet Plane is Paid Off and More Money Received:

May 2, 2021

Andrew Locher gave a sermon on April 17 about “Reviving the Elijah Work.” It was just another boring sermon about how the book of Malachi (which has “code” in chapter 3) is written to the Laodicean ministry, and HWA and GF are in it, and GF who is Elisha has “revelation” and must prophesy again. (Note: The part about the jet comes later in this sermon.)

Only a few highlights and news from the sermon: (comments by L. S.)

“We had more people attending services in 1999 than we do today. … We need bigger congregations. Are we praying hard enough?” (Translation: Are we sending enough money in?)

“After the world collapses they will say “there was a prophet among them.” (Lie: There are no prophets today, in spite of GF claiming to be “that Prophet.”)

“When God says He will send his messenger in Malachi 3, that is a coded message.”

“The three messengers in Malachi are: John the Baptist, Christ and HWA.” (Lie: There is no 3rd messenger in Malachi 3.)

“The work of Elisha that God said He gave the little book to, his job is to prophesy again, and give this warning to the Laodiceans.” (Lies: Elisha and Laodiceans are not even mentioned in Malachi. This is all part of GF’s so-called “revelations.”)

“We better recognize where God is working.” (God works in many places, not just in PCG.)

“The Key of David is no longer on two national stations. … God made that happen. But God has added close to 30 new television stations in the past few weeks.”

“The ministry is increasingly becoming graduates.” (of Armstrong College) (That way they are more submissive to “God’s government”; i.e., PCG HQs, and there is less chance of them leaving.)

“Our primary and our distinguishing blessing is God’s new revelation. That’s what distinguishes us.” (That’s what distinguishes a group as a cult.)

Finances: 2021 is stunning. As of today, our income is 30% increase over last year (which was the best ever). Holy day offerings this spring are at their highest levels they’ve ever been–8-10% increase over last year (last year being the biggest). GF announced we received a million dollar donation and that’s on top of all this record breaking other donations. Best year ever in first tithe, best year ever in holy day offerings, best year ever in third tithe–by a long shot.” (Could that be how all those new TV stations are being paid for?)

“We’ve had a terrific year in Canada. Income in Canada right now is 330% increase over last year. We received $1.1 million dollars so far this year in Estate income in Canada. So Mr. Heyer’s (Carlos Heyer) prayer for multiple millions–God is doing it. It’s happening in the United States; it’s happening in Canada; holy day offerings are up all over the globe as far as I can see. Mr. Heyer brings back a huge amount of money. The sacrifice of the brethren there. He brings back thousands and thousands of dollars from Central and South America.” (The poor members in those countries are giving money they don’t really have. And Locher encourages them to keep on giving!)

The Gulfstream G450 Jet is now paid off. We own it. God’s church is debt free. We don’t own anything to anybody–except to God. We own everything–Edstone, Edmond, all the equipment, the aircraft, the vehicles. We own God’s revelation, the most valuable gift of all.” (Where did this million dollars really come from? Read April 5 letter above, “PCG’s $1 Million Offering Sounds Suspicious.”)

“The 3 Elijahs are: John the Baptist, the original Elijah and Herbert W. Armstrong.” (Lie: HWA isn’t in the book of Malachi. There are no three Elijahs.)

Increase if we can as the offerings are so important for God’s Work.” (The words “if we can” will be ignored by the members and they will give all they can. The money is so important for GF’s ego.)

“The Laodicean approach is that it is all in vain. They are tired. But God commands us to have some joy, some excitement, to stir that Spirit.”

“Imagine what it would be like if you were totally submissive and totally dedicated to God.” (Yes, imagine the heavy burdens and the empty pocketbooks.)

–[name withheld] (comments by L. S.)

Comment by ESN: See 9-29-20 letter: “Members Told Not to Forget About the Dig Once the Jet Is Paid Off” which says members were told that once the Jet is paid off they would “hopefully use the money to fund the Dig.”

GF’s Fall Will be Great:

May 3, 2021

I firmly believe it’s like T. S. wrote. GF’s prosperity and outreach has been because Satan has given him the power. [see April 3 letter above, “PCG a Fake Church and Dangerous Cultwhere T. S. talked about this] Satan has always had his ministers and his churches. Certain verses come to mind: “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” (II Corinthians 11:13-15)

I cannot imagine what devious plans GF and SF are putting into place to prepare for the day when GF dies and how they are going to keep members from leaving. But this I am sure of, when GF’s fall comes–and it will come–it will be great because He does not place his trust in Christ alone for salvation but has chosen to lead many astray into lies and heresies and all for opulence and power. What shame!

As I thought about this, another verse came to mind: “I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree. Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.” (Psalms 37: 35-36). –[name withheld]

GF is Still Talking about Trump Returning to Office:

May 5, 2021

I can’t believe that GF is still talking about Trump returning to office. It’s in the July 2021 Trumpet “What Will Happen After Trump Regains Power.” A few quotes from GF:

“I do not know how it will happen, but I am convinced Donald Trump is going to regain the presidency. Bible prophecy foretells it!” “This all must happen because of a miracle from God!” “If we are shown to be wrong, then we will change and believe God! But everything God is showing us now makes it look like, despite appearances to the contrary, we are right on target.”

His article is loaded with many more insane words. He is going “down the rabbit hole” and is leading his followers to do the same. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is sick of hearing about this. –G. A.

PCG Will Observe Pentecost on May 16:

May 5, 2021

This year PCG will be observing Pentecost on May 16 and not May 23. I remember how HWA would go on and on and on explaining “new truth” especially at the FOT. He defended a Monday Pentecost for 40 years from 1934-1974. Then in January 1974 it comes out that he and all of us had observed the wrong day and it should be on a Sunday.

This is the same thing going on with GF right now with his “new truths.” Nobody can tell him otherwise. I wouldn’t be surprised if someday he will say we won’t need the Bible in the Kingdom since he has it all down in his booklets! I read: #36 in “Crazy Statements Made by WCG Ministers” where it says, “I heard one minister say, ‘We won’t need the Bible in the World Tomorrow because Mr. Armstrong has covered everything in his written materials.’” Almost funny. I wonder if GF will twist something like that for himself? –Exiter

Comment: “Herbert Armstrong stated that he alone had the right to determine which day was Pentecost, which day of the week it was to be observed on.” (Quoted from Worldwide Church of God History) Also read ESN article: Why Church Leaders Demand Holy Days for Their Members.

PCG Has Received Many Large Anonymous Donations:

May 6, 2021

PCG received many anonymous donations when I was a member. All really large amounts. –Former PCG member [name withheld]

GF Tells Members They are Embezzling If They Take From Their 2nd Tithe:

May 7, 2021

GF’s fear tactics are getting stronger. If members dare to get into their 2nd tithe, it’s considered not only “stealing” (as HWA used to say) but now is “embezzling“! He says it “does not work” to do that and if they refuse to set aside their 2nd tithe, or get into it, they will “surely suffer financial and spiritual penalties for disobeying God!” To strengthen this fear tactic, he says, “Quite a number have learned the hard way that ‘this borrowing’ does not work.” (“Frequent 2nd Tithe Questions”) [emp. mine]

First of all, tithes are not commanded under the New Covenant and neither is keeping the O. T. festivals, but all HWA cult leaders (con-artists) must enforce tithing by twisting Scripture, or they themselves fear they won’t be rolling in the dough anymore. –[name withheld]

Members to Keep Contributing to the “Aircraft Fund”:

May 9, 2021

When I was in PCG, members were constantly asked to give not only until it hurt, but beyond, sacrificing all of their comforts so that the ministry could live in luxury. Even though GF’s private jet was recently paid off (April 16), I hear they still have their “Aircraft fund” that members are to contribute to. Unbelievable! Is there no end to how much they will milk the members for? I received this from an acquaintance of mine: [emp. mine]

“Thanks to your sacrifice in the aircraft fund and other fundraisers,” Mr. Locher said, “the purchase price as well as a new paint job, avionics and safety upgrades, and planned (and unplanned) maintenance has all been paid. … Already this year, we have made several trips, with additional flights already planned. Thank you so much for your sacrifice! We still average nearly $80,000 per month in operating expense.This figure fluctuates quite a bit depending on our flight activity, but we can still really use any contributions you can make toward the aircraft fund.” (Excerpted from PN, 5-7-21)

“There is no doubt that God has big projects in mind, so let’s keep pace with God and continue to give as we are able.” (Ibid, Andrew Locher)

When GF and SF (and the privileged ministers) finally leave for their “place of safety” or wherever they take off to, they’ll travel first-class and take all the money with them, leaving members nothing but bills. –[name withheld]

GF Has Always Aspired to Be Like HWA:

May 10, 2021

Speaking of PCG’s “aircraft fund,” GF has always aspired to be like HWA and this includes traveling to far-off “important” places in a private jet. He and his ministers quote HWA at every opportunity. Is this to make sure members don’t forget this false prophet as their founder? His picture is on all PCG’s websites right along side GF’s mean-looking and sinister face. Wake up people! See the idolatry and the lies you’re being fed. Start thinking for yourself. –A. R.

GF Using Double-Talk to Place Fear in Members Before Pentecost:

May 13, 2021

GF in his constant, never-ending double talk says “A church is not our husband—Christ is!” (“On Pentecost: Remember the Marriage Covenant”) Then he turns around and threatens members that they better stay in PCG–which he has proclaimed is the “one true Church of God”–where they need to “prove themselves,” or else they will become Laodicean and are headed for the Great Tribulation to be punished and probably end up in the Lake of Fire! What unadulterated nonsense!!

The only ones Jesus rebuked were the self-righteous elite religious leaders of his day who placed heavy burdens on people (which is exactly what GF is doing). GF is not helping people find Christ and life in Him. He is like all high demand religious cult leaders who use fear and threats to control their membership. They teach mainly from the O. T. and purposely will not separate the N. T. church from ancient Israel. This leads to nothing but heavy burdens, fear, and working for one’s salvation. This is the false gospel that Paul spoke about in Galatians and placed a double curse on any who taught it!! (Galatians 1:6-8) GF is the one who needs to fear for the lies he speaks in the name of God! –L. S.

Members Are Sure to Experience Anxiety and Guilt:

May 14, 2021

Members are sure to experience anxiety and guilt after listening to Wik Heerma talking about whether or not they have the Holy Spirit. Some of the things he said: [emp. by ESN]

“Many of our troubles we bring on ourselves. We show a lack of the validation of God’s H.S. working in our lives because we’re too far from God. We are too self-willed; too self-reliant.”

“Our religion is 24 seven.” [24 hrs a day, 7 days a week]

Blamed them for “trying to do things on their own, according to their ideas.”

“People aren’t praying earnestly; surrender; obey the commandments of God.”

It was as if it was a sin to ever be depressed, make a mistake, or think on your own. Other things he said:

“Maybe [so and so] didn’t better himself on the job” [so he could produce more money and tithe more].

“We have to produce proof that we have the Holy Spirit.”

“The reason we are called is to bear fruit.”

“Let’s make sure we bring forth that evidence.”

–From PCG source (excerpts from Sermon: “Evidence of Unconditional Surrender”)

Comment: Blame has no place in the Christian life. Philippians 1:11 tells us the “fruits of righteousness” are by Christ. Also, ” Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began (II Timothy 1:9). Material to review is: What is the Spiritual Status of People in the HWA Groups? and The Sin Question.

GF Had Plans to Visit Five Combined Congregations for Pentecost:

May 15, 2021

Gerald Flurry had plans to visit a combined five congregations for Pentecost weekend. It remains to be seen how this will work out since the cyberattack against one of the largest pipelines in the United States drastically reduced fuel supplies in the Southeast. Even though a state of emergency was declared in Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia and in Florida, there have been no significant problems where I live in Northeast Florida. I haven’t had a need to fuel up and as I pass gas stations there have been no waiting in lines to purchase gasoline. However, we probably will see more large scale problems since we’re living in somewhat perilous times. –FL [name withheld]

GF Says God Revealed to Him the Sign of Immanuel:

May 16, 2021

In a recent sermon which was “played in all churches” Gerald Flurry said that God has helped him to see what “the sign of Immanuel” is. (Isaiah 7:14) His “deeper understanding” is that it means God is with us; i.e., PCG.

He dwelt on the fact that PCG has the New Throne of David and they will receive double crowns. It was all on himself and his church. The focus was not on the Lord Jesus and that He is our Savior. He said “God with us in the flesh” was “only part of it.”

Here are a few of his astonishing and false statements:

He read John 1:12 but omitted the first part and the last part:

“But as many as received him [He omitted those words], to them gave he power to become the sons of God [He read those words, focusing on “power”], even to them that believe on his name:” [He omitted those words]

GF does not believe that we are now the sons of God.

“We are becoming the sons and daughters of God.” [False! Galatians 3:26 says: “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus” and Gal 4:6 “And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” See this offsite article about John 1:12 (from “Answers From the Book”)]

He went on to say what will cause you to “win”:

“If you stay with God’s true Church, you are going to win.” [False! PCG is not God’s true church.]

Reads John 1:1 again:

“He wants us to focus on the Word that became the Son.” [False! Jesus was always the eternal Son of God – See: The Eternal Sonship of Christ (PDF)]

“God may just go on creating families and creating Himself in human beings and families throughout all eternity.” [False! This is Mormon doctrine; God is immutable and cannot change. See footnote #2 in Mike’s Final Exit Letter to Craig Winters.]

“The Word was willing to divest Himself of all that glory and take a chance on losing His eternal life. Lose everything and we couldn’t be here today if he had not succeeded. Now that ought to rattle your cage because that’s impressive.” (False! No, it’s heretical! If Christ was fully God–and He was–how could He fail? He couldn’t.)

His voice got loud when he read Luke 1:32  “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:” He emphasized that they (PCG) have the Throne of David “in this church!

Instead of emphasizing Christ (which PCG does not do) he emphasized what they have and how they are about to receive “dual crowns and rule with Jesus Christ forever.”

Brought up about the house of Jeroboam and Trump getting back in and PCG being kicked out of the country:

“What do you think will happen if we get that message out? It may get so bad that they will want to get rid of us. … We’ve been telling them that for 75 years. It is a strong, strong message and we have to deliver it. … It is all going to be over very shortly.”

“They won’t be able to bear it [this message] and that’s when we will get booted out. And we’ll have to have the faith to believe God and trust God and to know Immanuel is there, God is with us.”

“That throne [the New Throne of David] is in our church for the very first time ever. … We are about to receive our double crown forever!”

Does Gerald Flurry even know the love of God?  He has shown himself to be proud, believing God gives revelations to him, declaring himself to be that prophet and other such titles, and if any dare to speak up to him, or attempt to correct him, he will mark and disfellowship them. GF is not going to fare well when all is said and done. He will eventually come to the end of himself. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Pumping Up the Volume of Fear:

May 18, 2021

From what I’m reading on ESN, GF is really pumping up the volume and fear about members giving money. Even if his private jet is paid off, that fancy jet still costs a bundle to maintain and provide GF’s ritzy appearance. I think the PCG is seeing cash sources (members) leaving, and is worried about putting a Band-Aid on it to stem the source of the outward cash flow. Even if he received $2 million recently and even if he’s somehow connected with money-laundering, his greed would cause him to want even more money. –N. R.

GF’s Frequent Clearing of His Throat:

May 18, 2021

I heard that sermon GF gave right before Pentecost (“The Sign of Immanuel”) and he is always having to clear his throat as was mentioned before. Thought you’d like to know that I read that frequent clearing of the throat could be an indicator that the speaker knows that he is lying and that his subconsciousness is making the “cough.” Read: Throat Clearing May Indicate Deception. He also will have a laugh that can’t even be described as a real laugh; it’s almost like a mocking. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

GF Was in Tampa, FL on Pentecost:

May 21, 2021

GF did visit five combined congregations in Florida for Pentecost. They met in Tampa, Florida and he was there on the Sabbath May 15 and on Pentecost the 16th, giving his ridiculous “God revealed to me” sermon entitled, “The Sign of Immanuel.” –FL

Joel Hilliker and His Strange Remark:

May 21, 2021

When 18 of the 20 new graduates (where were the other two?) of Imperial Academy went to Washington DC for a week long senior trip (along with visiting other sites), Joel Hilliker, principal of Imperial Academy, remarked to them. “Who knows how much longer we’ll have such opportunities.” What did he mean by that? Was he referring to “we might not have much time before we flee”? This is hard to understand since PCG doesn’t seem to be lacking money especially for their farm in Edstone which is forging ahead with animals, fowl, gardens and pastures, with little thought about tomorrow or how GF has constantly said “Christ is returning soon.” (That farm, by the way, reminds me of Ambassador College’s farm in Big Sandy, TX back in the day.)  –TX

GF Calls His God the “Eternal”:

May 21, 2021

Speaking of GF never admitting that Jesus was the Eternal Son of God [see May 16 letter], GF calls his god the “eternal.” It’s interesting that God is only referred to as “eternal” once, in Deuteronomy 33:27, and then, the word is not capitalized, so it’s not a proper noun. GF’s “eternal” and the God of the Bible are not the same. GF’s god is a vengeful, threatening, hateful, ready-to-smite, demonic creature that his twisted mind has created to keep the members in fear of punishment for not obeying him and his “ministers,” providing a sense of guilt if they dare to question or think critically, and withholding tithes and offerings. –P. F.

PCG’s Strict Rules for Those Attending SEP:

May 22, 2021

Someone passed the following material on to me. [emp. mine]

Jason Cocomise mailed a letter with 4 PDF documents for those who will be attending Philadelphia Church of God Summer Educational Program aka SEP (formerly called Philadelphia Youth Camp or PYC) to sign. To attend camp it will cost $350 per camper. The documents contain many questions parents must answer and a multitude of rules they agree to follow. Here is some of it:

They must fill in their travel plans to camp and from camp with the airline, flight number, arrival or departure date (to and from Oklahoma City). If they aren’t traveling by airplane to camp, or are coming in early, they must explain their travel arrangements (i.e., who they will be traveling with, who is driving, estimated time of departure, etc.). They must explain the same thing for departure from camp.

There also is a Medical Consent for Rendering of Medical Services that must be signed and notarized.

Then there is a Minor Waiver/Release which says that the risk of injury to your child from the activities is significant including permanent disability and death. When you sign you are saying that you will freely assume all such risks. Signing this paper is to “release and hold harmless the Philadelphia Church of God Summer Educational Program, (goes on to include directors, employees, volunteers, etc.) with respect to any and all injury, disability, death,” etc.

The signed waiver/release “will be kept on file by the SEP for at least 7 years or possibly longer if the participant has been involved in a serious injury.”

The participant and the parent/guardian must also sign the S.E.P. Release and Acknowledgment of S.E.P. Standards which is a covenant not to sue and to release and hold harmless PCG from and against claims or suits, resulting from personal injuries and bodily injuries, etc. The “S.E.P. Standards” at end of this document covers the “high standards of personal conduct. These standards include rules against intoxication or possession of intoxicants, sexual misconduct, use or possession of illegal drugs, stealing, smoking, disorderly conduct, intentional destruction of property,refusal to cooperate with Church or S.E.P. counselors, chaperons or helpers or any conduct or attitudes not in keeping with God’s law and beliefs of the Church. Applicants and chaperons will also be expected to maintain high standards of dress and grooming.”

The rules are endless and much of it is in all caps to make sure you understand. –Oklahoma [name withheld]

Offering on Pentecost

May 23, 2021

Brad Macdonald [regional director in the UK and Europe] on Pentecost said the offering was $68, 263.25. He said 367 people were in attendance and that made it $186.01 per person. –[name withheld]

Senseless All or Nothing Statements by Deryle Hope:

May 23, 2021

Deryle Hope gave a sermon on May 15 entitled “Who Are We?” in which he said the following senseless all or nothing statements about PCG members: (emp mine)

We have the blessing of so much revelation to give us understanding as to where we are in prophetic time and what are the events that are shortly to come to pass. No other church age and no other church era has understood what we understand with regard to the prophecies contained in the books of the Bible like Daniel and Revelation and the other prophetic books of the Bible.

“And no other era has had in its position the New Throne of David and the New Stone of Destiny. That makes this era very special. How we should be thankful. We really should be thankful that God has placed us in this specific moment in time so that we can be part of this magnificent history; and that we can fulfil this present and future role that God has intended for us. We of all the church eras, of all the firstfruits, we have a special and a unique privilege.”

I find nothing in Revelation 3:7-12 (which is speaking to the Church in Philadelphia) that says anything about having a “new throne of David” or a “new stone of destiny.” –J. S.

Got in Trouble Over a Remark About Cookies:

May 27, 2021

A couple years after my wife died my two sons and I signed up to attend the PCG “family weekend” in GA.

I got permission from my local minister to go and was told to contact the local event coordinator.

I emailed the man, he sent a list of instructions for the campout weekend. I was told to bring a few dozen extra cookies. I had just lost 160 pounds and had lots of health problems so I said that perhaps there would be a more healthy snack I could bring. A couple days later I got a call from my local minister, Aaron Eagle. He got on me for making the remark about cookies not being a healthy snack.

This is what had to happen for me to get that call:

The event coordinator contacted his local minister about my comment.
The local minister had to contact the regional director of the south east.
The regional director of the south east had to contact the regional director of the north east.
The regional director of the north east had to contact my local minister.
My local minister contacted me about the comment.

WOW, all that over cookies. –Former PCG member

The “Rule of 7 in PCG”

(2nd email from person above)

May 27, 2021

This brief letter by former PCG member has been placed as #22 in the Crazy Statements by PCG Ministers.

PCG’s “Jerusalem Dig” Goes by the Wayside?

May 28, 2021

Your readers may remember the “Jerusalem Dig” that Gerald Flurry and his son were working on in 2007. GF even had an office in Jerusalem in 2013. The Herbert Armstrong College students volunteered their labor and were working with archeologist Dr. Eilat Mazar to unearth “King David’s palace.” It was to be a really big find. Well, it just so happens that Dr. Eliat Mazar died a few days ago on May 25 at the age of 64. Since 2018 GF has been wrapped up with the “New Throne of David” and the “Dig” has gone by the wayside. –FL

Comment: GF talked about the “dig” in his 2020 sermon “The Key of David Message” where he said the dig “looks like it should open up soon.” (Refer to the May 22, 2020 letter.) PCG’s involvement with the Jerusalem project was over-hyped from the beginning. Read this excellent letter that tells about the dig and GF’s other “grand” ideas that followed. Gerald Flurry’s Grand Ideas Reaping Only Struggle and Hardship. Update: GF wrote in his August 13, 2021 co-worker letter that they are “going to start the Dig in November.”

Another Guilt Trip on Members:

May 29, 2021

I heard about the following sermon through a trusted PCG source. (All emp. mine; some of my words are in purple)

SF gave a sermon shortly after Pentecost entitled, “Satan’s Attack on the Lay Membership.” By the title you would think it was going to be about a huge spiritual attack coming on the members for their beliefs. But no, it was another guilt trip which included comparing them to others. Some parts were almost laughable if it wasn’t for the pressure he put on the members. Here are a few excerpts:

“The restrictions and lockdowns are really wearing down God’s people … [He put the blame for all of it on:] Satan, our Adversary is keeping God’s people under pressure.”

[However, to compare them to members in Canada, he added:] “The income keeps going up in Canada even though they are very much constrained in that country.”

“Some are letting down and not assembling together. [But] this has nothing to do with lockdowns.”

[Brought up about how HWA got really hot under the collar and pounded the podium the time when someone wanted to cancel Friday night Bible Studies.]

“Satan hates God’s purpose and is doing anything he can including using the pandemic to thwart that purpose.”

“Satan doesn’t want us to get together, becoming more unified… Satan wants us to be like so many in this world–divided, lonely, anti-social.”

He referred many times to GF’s book, “The Book of Hebrews” which mentions “Satan” 14 times; and “assemble” or “assembling” at 8 times; the word “Laodicean” or “Laodiceans” 53 times; the word “work” 53 times and “place of safety” 5 times. [What he doesn’t say is that the book of Hebrews exalts the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, which you never hear GF, SF, or any of the ministers saying.]

[Quoting from GF’s Hebrews book]: “It takes work to maintain an intense hunger for the truth and desire to assemble because we are just naturally selfish, want to withdraw, we want to hole up. We don’t want to spread ourselves out there and really give and support the weak as Paul said, and think about the others… This represents an audacious attack on the church and in particular the lay membership of the church. … How many more opportunities do we even have? To spend time with God’s family? [before the return of Christ]  We don’t want to take that for granted.” [end of quotes from GF’s Hebrews book]

“Satan loves it when people withdraw into their basements, and strap on all that protection, so that they don’t have to look at people in the eye, so that they don’t have to have human interaction. He loves it.”

“We have been called to serve in a much greater and worldwide work” [than those in the book of Acts].

“The church is going to stand out more and more as we go forward.”

“We’re all replaceable if our attitude goes sour.”

[Quoting again from GF’s Hebrews book:] “Before long, all of God’s people will be surrounded by millions of people wanting to learn what we know.”

Along with obsessively quoting HWA and GF’s booklet, it was the same old mantra about “God’s family,” “God’s church,” “ruling over many planets” and how you “can’t be a loner” and “try to climb into God’s Kingdom some other way” (than through PCG). This sermon (which felt like a weight around my neck) was given so that the members would get fired up, assemble together more, keep praying and fasting, and support the Work more, making sacrifices. How much more guilt can they handle?  –L. S.

One Way PCG Builds Up Its Financial Reserves:

May  29, 2021

When reading the April 5, 2021 letter from someone who wondered if PCG wasn’t involved in “money laundering,” I found myself reading your article “Transfer All Your Assets to Gerald Flurry After You Die” which had a link at the end to a very good letter which is eye-opening. I think everyone should read if they haven’t already: PCG Has Several Ways to Build Up its Financial Reserves. (i.e., members’ wills) –[name withheld]

GF Still a False Prophet:

May 30, 2021

Have you noticed how there’s no more mention about Trump and the stolen election? Good ol’ Jerry (GF) and Stevie (SF) want this one swept right under the rug–so far under that nobody would dare bring it up again. What a catastrophic failure this prophecy turned out to be. This was a huge one–King Jeroboam II is Donald Trump and he would remain President, a signature prophecy that only a fake prophet like Jerry could come up with. Well, there’s no sign of Trump and President Biden seems to be doing whatever he wants to.

I just thought I’d remind everyone who checks out this site (including those sneaky members who aren’t allowed to do so, but do anyway) what a false prophet Jerry is and what a babbling side-kick Stevie is. After all, it’s our duty to recognize a false prophet when we see one and to beware of them. So please beware! –M. G.

Comment: That prophecy failed (even though GF denied it was a prophecy), but he wrote an article for the July 2021 Trumpet: “What Will Happen After Trump Regains Power” where he says Trump “will return to office to stop some of the destruction being caused by the current administration.” He also says, “It seems certain to me that this will happen before the next presidential election in 2024—unless there would be some kind of war and voting combined. But 2 Kings 14:28 does not even hint of an election.”

PCG Tries to Scare People:

May 31, 2021

I wanted to add something else about SF’s sermon on “Satan’s Attack on the Lay Membership.” [May 29 letter) PCG has a side bar in their July 2021 Trumpet (“Is Coronavirus the Mark of the Beast?”) where it says, “The mark of the beast is connected directly to one specific commandment. … It is the Fourth Commandment:” (Saturday Sabbath) They are quoting from HWA’s booklet “Who or What Is The Prophetic Beast?” This is another booklet that will put utter fear into the mind of anyone who reads it and who doesn’t understand that Christians are not under the Mosaic Law today, which includes the Sabbath Law. No wonder there are members who are still staying in PCG and who didn’t leave because of GF’s false prophecy. Not only is SF telling them they can’t “go it alone” but he is saying if they don’t stay in “the one true church” and cleave to the fourth commandment they will receive the Mark of the Beast. I never see GF saying anything about cleaving to Christ and how we have not been given a spirit of fear. –L. S.

Comment: Read: What is the Mark of the Beast and how do we keep from being afraid? The fear of “Mark of the Beast” is certainly one part of it, but it’s also their fear of losing their friends if they leave and losing what they believe is their “family.” Their whole life has been PCG. It’s a gut wrenching experience to know that your entire life has been based on a lie and you have been exploited and now you must severe it. But it all boils down to convictions. You either have convictions to do what’s right or you do not. We cover this in many places on our site. Also read: Why It’s Hard to Leave Philadelphia Church of God (article by former member of PCG) and the letters and links at the end.

Someone Passed a Copy of the Celtic Throne Performance on to Me:

May 31, 2021

A PCG source I know recorded the Celtic Throne performance that was going on live at Armstrong Auditorium last nite and passed a copy on to me so I could watch it. They had a “throne” sitting on the stage. At the beginning of the performance, they said all devices needed to be off and recordings were prohibited (probably because they didn’t want anyone watching it without paying money). I was told the Live Stream cost $15 for non-members and being in the Auditorium costs $30-$55 depending on seating.

While all the performers were amazing, Irish dance is definitely dangerous. I see lots of potential for injury during the dancing. They move in some crazy ways that aren’t natural for the body. I’m sure there is a lot of pressure put on all of them to do their absolute best since they are performing “for God.” I just hope they weren’t pressured to perform. I felt sad when I watched the parts of it where the young ones are shown. They have such a good life ahead of them if only they can someday get the heck out of there. –Oklahoma

Comment: Read the July 23, 2020 letter: Surprised When Former Friend in PCG Sent Link to Celtic Throne (which describes more about the first performance) and also our reply which gives links showing how Irish Dancing can cause injuries.

My Thoughts on Riverdance:

June 1, 2021

I would like to give my thoughts on PCG’s Riverdance or Irish Dancing.

“The Celtic Throne: The Royal Journey of Irish Dance” was performed at the Armstrong Auditorium on May 30 and was free to veterans and active duty military personnel. In Irish dancing, aka Riverdance, the dancer keeps the upper torso completely paralyzed, while everything below the waist, including the legs, appears to go all quick and spastic. It’s called Riverdance because when the dancers reach their top speed they tend to “sweat rivers.”

It was Wayne Turgeon who brought in a “Riverdance” instructor in 2013 to teach the Flurry grandchildren how to Riverdance. [Read: Edmond Elite Youth Being Taught How to Riverdance (Irish Dancing)] As one person wrote in the 1-24-17 letter, Riverdance was at first performed chiefly by the Flurry grandchildren and the concerts were a “money consumer and little more than to show off the talents of the Flurry grandchildren and titillate the local PCG members.” It has since turned into another money maker for GF while the parents live vicariously through their children and grandchildren at these performances.

Although I’m aware it must take much practice to do Riverdance, the performers in my opinion look like ungainly sticks jumping around. They would never be able to follow in the footsteps of Fred Astaire who is known to be one of the greatest dancers and performers of all time. His moves are legend.

The main point I want to make, though, is that GF and SF have excessive concern for material things and physical appearances–the jet, Armstrong Auditorium, concerts, Irish Dancing, etc. I doubt few outsiders attending these elaborate performances know there is a church (aka a cult) behind it. –K.

Comment: The Celtic throne performance and what it symbolizes was brought out in the article, “Gerald Flurry’s Insanity With the Throne of David.” It all ties in with his belief that they are spiritual Israel and they alone have the New Throne of David.

All Men in PCG to Wear White Shirts to Services:

June 4, 2021

GF has made an announcement that all men are to wear white shirts for Sabbath services. Evidently colored shirts are out. –[name withheld]

Wayne Turgeon Gets a Taste of His Own Medicine:

June 4, 2021

I don’t know how interesting this story will be until one realizes the true meaning of why Wayne Turgeon told it. It was passed along by a PCG source.

Wayne Turgeon has preached in the past about how members need to behave in certain ways–obedient, patient, long suffering, don’t answer back, do as you’re told, especially with those in authority. Exhibit the fruits of the Spirit.

Well, he recently got a taste of his own medicine. In a recent Bible study he took much time at the beginning to tell a convoluted story about his and his wife’s woes of being denied into this one country (that he wouldn’t name but at the end he mentioned the Alps), and how it took hours and days. All because the rules had been changed due to a technicality and how they were stringent. Being grouchy and short-tempered is nothing new for Turgeon, although he had the members laughing at his plight.

He related more and more problems as he went on saying the latter ones were due to his not contacting this country’s Embassy. Turgeon was short-tempered with several of those he had to deal with and who grilled him with many questions.

He explained that the reason he was going through all these details was to inspire them (the brethren listening) to PRAY for God’s ministers–all around the world. “We don’t know how long this (pandemic) is going to last. But I need to meet some members that haven’t been visited in awhile; I need to meet new contacts that want to come into the church.”

He later asked the authorities for a form (it was 4-6 pages long) so he could complain about his treatment. It was in English but he would have to pay to get it translated into whatever language they have. So he eventually tore it up because it would be too much hassle and may make his future visits tougher if he tries to go back and they (the authorities) had it on file.

Then he said he started wondering “if they might be checking out the Philadelphia Church of God” and the names of those members and the prospective members in those countries he hoped to visit. [Oh yes, Wayne, they might find out what is behind PCG and how much money GF is pulling in and you wouldn’t want that.]

At 1 AM some men come out dressed in military uniform with pistols and he said it was a “little bit intimidating.” (These men were carrying a big wad of papers for them to sign, but Turgeon refused because only one page was in English.) He admitted that he “made several frustrating comments” at that time such as: “If I was back in the U.S. I would be calling my lawyer!” (He told the brethren he didn’t have a lawyer) “I have no rights here! This is being run like a Nazi dictatorship!” He said they (he and his wife) could had been sitting there for hours and if they hadn’t gone on back to check on them they could have been sitting there all night! He said it flustered the officers and the main guy’s hands “started shaking.” Turgeon said, “So we must have had them intimidated.”

Then these officers call security and finally, Turgeon and his wife are escorted to the TSA after 1:30 AM and back out to the lobby. His tote bag was swabbed for drugs. There were bright lights, people talking out loud, etc. At 2:30 AM he falls asleep on an end table and is awaken by three armed immigration officers in the lobby of this airport demanding to see his passport. So Turgeon blurts out, “They took my passport!”

At 8 AM, after it being “tortuous” to try and get any kind of rest, they go to Gate 4 where they were told to go. The first men there at this immigration office were friendly and in T-shirts, jeans and sneakers. But two military security guards had to drive them in an armed vehicle right up to the plane and escort them inside the plane.

Turgeon said he believes it will “only get worse not better as time goes on.” He was glad he gave a study on Acts recently (thinking about what the Apostle Paul went through). He emphasized that members are to “Please PRAY for the ministry. We are not going to quit. They are going to have to kill me first.” (This was the fear part.)

Of course it never enters these ministers’ minds to just stay home. We know they won’t as they need to recruit more members into their church (PCG) so they will receive more money. But Turgeon got a first hand view of how difficult life can be. –[name withheld]

PCG Still Encouraging Contributions for the Aircraft Fund:

June 4, 2021

While Wayne Turgeon and his wife Laura have been gallivanting around visiting as many European brethren as they can–in spite of Turgeon “getting a taste of his own medicine” on the way–GF has not slowed down in accepting (and even encouraging) contributions from the members for the aircraft fund. This is how the recent PCG Friday Philadelphian announcement is being worded to make it look like members are the ones still interested: (emp. mine)

“Members have asked where they can send special contributions now that the Church has paid off the purchase price of its aircraft.”

Notice how the announcement goes on to say:

“Chief financial officer Andrew Locher said that the aircraft fund is still open for ongoing maintenance and travel costs, as well as the building fund and the Jerusalem (archaeology) fund. Those interested are to submit their donations through [the PCG church website].”

Now guess who is going to pay for all this? You guessed it. The members! There is no end to all the cash PCG needs. –FL

Pentecost 2021 Was Observed on Wrong Date for 2021:

June 9, 2021 / updated 6-16-21

Hi ESN! I thought you may want to raise this issue to all COG groups. [sends a very long article about how Pentecost on May 16 this year “proved to be the wrong date” and how these groups missed the correct date. ] …. Thanks. — D. S.

Note 6-15-21: This email was passed on to William Hohmann in ESN who found some glaring problems. He has replied and wrote this article on it: How is the Day of Pentecost Figured? (furnishes the correct calendation) William said, “I know it can be confusing at first, as we are not accustomed to a calendar that works like that.”

Will Try to Study Correct Calendar:

June 16, 2021

(2nd email from person above)

I agree, the calendar is quite confusing. (Read: How is the Day of Pentecost Figured?) Will try to study it. Thanks ESN! –D. S.

Reply from William Hohmann in ESN: It took me awhile to get the hang of it, what with how it worked. But, now it’s easy.

Gerald Flurry Still Full of Malarkey:

June 17, 2021

GF gave a recent sermon, “Satan’s War Against God’s Government.” The more I listened to it the more I could see he is still full of malarkey. Satan doesn’t have any “war” going on against “God’s government” because first of all the words “God’s government” aren’t even found in the Bible; secondly the words “God’s government” when used by GF are meant to mean Headquarters (see Q&A: “Why do members emphasize the “government of God”?” and obeying that government in PCG.

GF desires to imitate HWA (his hero) and quotes him all the time, but he will never be able to speak with the energy and vigor that HWA put forth. He boasts,

“Where do you find beautiful music like you find in God’s House? It isn’t to be found.” [This is such a bunch of crock. Beautiful music can be found in many places.]

“Nobody gives messages like we do,” but GF’s sermons are downright boring. He repeats the same things over and over all the time (raising his voice at the right moment to give emphasis). For instance,  here is some of the monotony:

“Times are going to get far worse; it will be a horror picture; God’s church is going to have to go to a place of safety; those that leave have a gall of bitterness; if you get bitterness in you, it will consume you; this is what happened in the 70’s; we had to put up with that nonsense for 6 years; blah, blah, blah.” [And how long have we had to put up with GF’s nonsense?]


“How many of those ministers (who are willing to teach the Law of God) do you find on this earth? You don’t need to look beyond this church because you won’t find any, that I know of, and I think I know just about what’s going on all around the world. Almost a total destruction of the ministry.”

One personal story he threw in about his childhood was:

“My mom was really strong–just about the strongest mom you could ever have. But my father was never taught anything about child-rearing. And he was a harsh father and he offered virtually no praise in my life. [Note: GF’s father was an alcoholic. Royal Vision, July/Aug. 2000, p. 9] And I don’t care who you are. You are going to be somewhat damaged in your personality, and your confidence, and I felt how am I ever going to get beyond this? I was just floundering all over the place in my early 20’s. And then there was a man by the name of Herbert W. Armstrong that showed me a way out. A father figure. … This man saved my life! The Autobiography and all those wonderful examples he gave, and how you can live the abundant life now. But you have to choose.”

He referred to himself when he quoted Ephesians 4:11 about God giving some apostles and prophets… He said,

“It is a blessing when you can have a minister who will stand up and say ‘I am going to work to help God perfect the saints.’ ..teaching every word of God. … Is our number one goal to do the will of God and to finish His Work? … It’s all about the Father’s Law.” [No, it’s all about Christ and His grace: “The Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.” -John 1:17]

“We need to sacrifice like we’ve never sacrificed before!”

No wonder so many have left. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Any Word on Place of Safety?

June 18, 2021

Any word on members and the Place of Safety lately? –W. N.

Reply: Read our new article (also linked on What’s New) entitled, “Fleeing to a Place of Safety” which is from a recent PCG sermonette “Building the Faith to Flee, Today” by Roger Brandon.

GF Looks Like a Shyster to Me:

June 19, 2021

I don’t like to look at GF’s picture as it gives me the “willies.” To me he looks like a shyster. These con artists (aka cult leaders) start out looking handsome and dashing when young and end up looking almost scary as they age. Perhaps he should have a younger picture of himself posted, like other sites do that are pro-Herbert Armstrong. Seriously, I think all those years of lying and conniving and scamming people affects the way someone looks.  –[name withheld]

Comment: Most sociopaths look “handsome and dashing.” Read: Profile of a Sociopath

An Accomplished Maniacal Liar:

June 20, 201

Regarding previous letter about that shyster GF “lying, conniving and scamming” people, it’s like a letter on your site brought out. [May 19, 2003] It said GF “exaggerates like an accomplished maniacal liar.” After reading words from GF’s sermons, I would heartily agree to that statement. (I think this applies to his henchmen too, since they have no qualms about scamming the elderly and the dying out of their money.). As one person said, these people should be in prison for their crimes. So true if it wasn’t for the fact that they usually get away with it by hiding behind their religion! Thanks for your site. I’m glad you don’t deal in canards. –A. R.

Family Member Was Reading PCG Material While in Prison:

June 21, 2021

I am so glad that I found your website. It shed much needed light on what our family has been going through the past few years. While [a family member] was in prison, he was given Philadelphia Church of God’s address to write to for literature, and he has received many books, studies and articles. He contacted the minister to talk about membership to the PCG and wants to get baptized. He recently has told us he is studying the different booklets. He said in a very recent letter that he may have to leave the family when certain prophecies are fulfilled and may have to leave us sooner if we do not accept his ways. We are very concerned and worried for him. He has told me that even though he does not have any money that he must send money to the PCG and must obtain other books to study. He advises us that he must follow God’s Law first as this comes above man’s laws. –[name withheld]

Comment: This person has received a personal reply. I hope this family member will allow himself to read some of the material on our site; otherwise, he may have to go through a lot of suffering before he wakes up.

Ministers Living the Abundant Life:

June 22, 2021

After reading “Members to Keep Contributing to the ‘Aircraft Fund’ [May 9 letter above] one cannot help but note the abundant life these people live.

With leading ministers flying around the world, living in mansions on million dollar estates, they are living the life of abundance!

Members are expected to give their first, second and third tithes, holy day offerings, contribute to the building fund, aircraft fund, Jerusalem fund, and volunteer for those fundraisers. With all that cash coming in, including “record breaking donations,” you’d think these leaders would be satisfied.

The truth is that it’s never enough for them. The members must continue to sacrifice for the “Work of God” which has become Jude Flurry dancing about his grandfather’s throne.

The members are seriously disadvantaged. They are discouraged from getting a “worldly” education with limited opportunities to build high earning careers; wives prohibited from working (except those employed at headquarters, of course) and then there are the tithes, offerings, funds and fundraisers, giving at least one third of their already below par income.

This all comes at a cost to the average member: barely making ends meet; difficulty in buying their own homes, unable to save for their futures, unlikely to invest in their children’s education and an overall lower standard of living.

It’s sad to see members live in poverty, struggling to survive while sacrificing to prop up the lives of the ministers, especially those at Edmond and Edstone.

Members of the PCG need to ask themselves these questions and be honest in their response: Since you came into the PCG, has the membership grown or declined? Has the reach of the message grown or declined? Is the message really making an impact in the world? Is God really backing PCG’s efforts? Are GF’s prophecies coming to pass (e.g., e.g. Tkach Jr. to conspire with Donald Trump, Donald Trump remaining in office, the open door in Jerusalem, etc.)?

It seems the only visible growth that can be found is in their wealth and the standard of living of their ministers.

It’s a real shame that these crooked men who claim to be doing the “Work of God” spend those hard earned tithes and offerings on themselves, on their mansions, on their jet and on their Irish dancing.

Shame on the ministers of the Philadelphia Church of God!! They have so much to answer for! –M. K.

Mass Shooting in Austin, TX Due to Satan Hating PCG’s Uplifting Message?

June 22, 2021

I had to listen to a lame sermon that SF gave on June 13 (“Science Falsely So-Called”). His droning, monotonous voice–that can almost put you to sleep–sounded like (in my opinion) he was half-drunk, except when his voice gets high, loud and screechy, which can hurt your ears, or when he’s “acting funny” to get the members to laugh.

It should come as no surprise that SF said that he wondered if the mass shooting (at least some of it) that took place in Austin, TX early June 13 was “Satan’s reaction to a message that is so uplifting.” This message has been “changing lives” and “Satan isn’t happy about that.” Can mass shootings be blamed on Satan being angry with PCG’s uplifting message? He said he checked it out on Google maps and the shooting “happened about 12 blocks from where the performers were performing Wednesday nite in the Celtic Throne performance.”

The Celtic Throne performance, he said, was “a message that’s about the United States and Britain in prophecy set to music” and if they (the audience) don’t have God’s Spirit “they will miss it.” It is also a “warning.”

He also told what Satan hates–he hates God’s Royal production, he hates the Royal Family God Vision, the Royal Family Culture, and other “royal” things that I couldn’t keep up with. So much bragging and it was so boring. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Comment: Read a somewhat related letter that is very funny: Gerald Flurry Looked Like a Drunken Bum.

Brian Davis Has Been Visiting Members:

June 23, 2021

Brian Davis and Eric Burns have been making the rounds visiting members. Davis is a pompous ass in my opinion. I noticed that he wore expensive shoes, and I do mean expensive, and had rented a top-of-the-line expensive rental to make his rounds. Since he’s salaried, this is all at the members’ expense. The ministers’ wives come with them and they act like whipped dogs, afraid of their husbands’ shadows. –[name withheld]

Note: As of 2020, Brian Davis was Northeast United States regional director and Eric Burns was preaching elder and Herbert W. Armstrong College assistant dean of students.

Read: Brian Davis is an Abusive Tyrant (2012 letter to ESN)

GF Using His Private Jet to Fly to Celtic Throne Performances:

June 26, 2021

GF is getting lots of use out of his private jet. Not to visit foreign countries as HWA did, but he’s using it at present to fly to the Celtic Throne performances. He flew to TN to watch the performance there and he’ll probably fly to the one coming up in Little Rock, AR and Tulsa, OK. He’s also working hard on a booklet about “prophecies relating to Presidents Obama, Trump and Biden and the final days of America, which he hopes to distribute at this year’s Feast of Tabernacles.” –FL

Disgusted with Andrew Locher’s Deceit:

June 26, 2021

I was disgusted with Andrew Locher after listening to some of his recent sermon “What is God’s Purpose for the Sabbath?” He said he doesn’t go to “Laodicean” websites very often but “thought he would go to GCI’s website” [Grace Communion International, formerly known as WCG] and search for the word “Sabbath.” He said nothing showed up, just a notice saying sorry, nothing matched your criteria and to go back and search again. I thought this was odd so I went to GCI’s website and did a search myself and 550 results came up!

I don’t know what kind of game Locher is playing, but he’s evidently lying, deceiving, or plain deceived himself! What kind of liars are in PCG? Of course, the members are going to believe every word he said as they are taught not to go to GCI’s site (or any “dissident” site such as the ESN). I hope some of the “thinkers” in PCG will go and do their own search. (By the way, ESN exposes GCI in the section Worldwide Church of God Expose` (GCI).)

Next, he brought up the booklet “Which Day is the Christian Sabbath?” by Herbert Armstrong and was quoting aimlessly what HWA said in it. This booklet was reviewed by William Hohmann in ESN in the past and was posted in PDF with the title: “A Critique of Which day is the Christian Sabbath? I hope others will read that critique. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

The Trumpet’s Deceitful Website:

June 27, 2021

I just discovered that The Trumpet is advertising itself in the search engines as “World News, Economics and Analysis Based.” Those that have had no prior knowledge of them will be captured by the sentence, click on the link, and be led to a page overflowing with articles and links to choose from. Here are some:

Trumpet Brief, Trumpet Daily, Trumpet Radio, Trumpet Hour, Key of David, The Bible Story, The Philadelphia Trumpet (filled with fear), and a picture of King Flurry himself.

Without discernment, prayer and investigative research, people will be pulled into this mind manipulating cult. I encourage others to pray against this website and against the PCG. May God speed the day when their evil will be destroyed. –A. R.

Flurry Elite Flying Around Nation With Grandchildren to Perform Their Irish Jigs:

June 29, 2021

I read the June 26 letter: “GF Using His Private Jet to Fly to “Celtic Throne” performances.” Apparently, what else happened was the Flurry grandchildren were flown exclusively in King Jerry’s luxury jet to Birmingham, Alabama and Nashville, Tennessee for several public performances of “The Celtic Throne.” I can’t help but remember all of the times I had to write out tithe checks to the PCG while barely able to pay my bills. I just wonder how many PCG people are barely able to scrape by sending desperately needed cash into PCG HQ so the Flurry elite can fly luxury private jets around the nation to perform their Irish jigs to the public. I remember helping to buy groceries for elderly PCG ladies who were refused third tithe assistance by Gerald Flurry and Cal Culpepper because we know all of that money was siphoned off into Flurry own private account. –Former member of PCG [name withheld]

Also read:Where Most of PCG’s Third Tithe Fund Goes To”

Brian Davis and Wayne Turgeon Are Two of the Worst at HQ:

June 30, 2021

I was told on good authority that Brian Davis and Wayne Turgeon [GF’s son-in-law] are two of the worst at HQ who read up on Exit and Support postings. I was informed that they “laugh and joke” when reading the letters of the abuse and heartache that people have written into ESN. The incident at the Swiss Airport with Turgeon  is a typical example of their two-faced hypocrisy. [see June 4 letter above: “Wayne Turgeon Gets a Taste of His Own Medicine”] They preach one thing to the dumb sheep about “obeying government” but when faced with putting into practice what they preach they expose themselves to be totally unsaved hypocrites. And to make it even more apparent to all, Turgeon even boasts in that sermon how he tried to intimidate and harass those airport workers who were only trying to do their job–even making one worker to shake through his verbal harassment. Real Christ-like there, Wayne. None of those PCG ministers or HQ are saved or indwelt with an ounce of the Holy Spirit. It is all Satanic, legalistic, work salvation heresy that will doom them all to perdition one day. –B. S. (Former PCG member)

Comment: Read excellent testimony: Abusive Experiences with Wayne Turgeon and Ron Hanson and letter: Brian Davis is an Abusive Tyrant.

Can You Honestly Prove Any of What Gerald Flurry Says?

July 1, 2021

The following was sent to us by a former member of PCG. GF on this Key of David program proclaimed, “God is going to speak to this world” and “This is new revelation.” He kept talking about how you “have to prove things or you are deceived.” Following is the email with transcript: [references to magazine titles by ESN]

Did anyone notice on a recent Key of David, Gerald Flurry admitting that God has given more than 50 visions?

“So I can think of, like 50 visions in the last 30 years that God has revealed, and I’ve proven them, and they’re right there in your Bible and you can prove it.” [8:46] … “Each one of these is directed to God’s elect and the entire world.” [9:01] (Key of David, “At The End, It Shall Speak”)

This reminds me of Jeremiah 23:16: “Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.'” (ESV)

It is easy to see right through that Key of David episode and how he is trying to scam you:

  • First, he starts with the typical doom and gloom.
  • Next, he talks about faith and that you’re not God’s people if you don’t believe what he says.
  • Then he even reads Hebrews 10:38 to guilt you into staying in his “church.” (“Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.“)
  • Then, he tells his listeners not to trust any man. [But to trust the man God is using]
  • Lastly, he concludes asking his listeners to believe God. But what he means is that you should believe him.

He says that God expects us to prove all things. But you can’t prove much of what Gerald Flurry says! How exactly would you go about proving the New Throne of David? How do you prove whose voice he heard? Are you even allowed to question that voice?

1 John 4:1 tells us to test every spirit for there are many false prophets! Are members allowed to test that spirit? What if Gerald Flurry is a false prophet?!

Gerald Flurry is trying to manipulate you. He is playing with your mind and your emotions. Use the same objectivity you would with anyone else and ask yourself what is he really doing? Be honest with yourself.

He claims to be a prophet. [Go to Special News Report on Philadelphia Church of God and search for the word “prophet” to see how this is true.]

He claims the PCG is “God’s one true Church” and the biggest proof of this is prophecy, according to Gerald Flurry. I challenge every PCG member to name one prophecy that has come true–one prophecy that has legitimately become reality.

“When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:22. ESV)

Let’s have a look at some of the prophecies he expects us to believe:

  • In 2001, he told us that we were in the last hour and then three years later, the last half hour.
  • In 2005, he told us he was going to the cities one last time, even though he went again a decade later!
  • In 2007, he told us that Obama wouldn’t get into office.
  • In 2013, he told us that Bricket Wood was prophesied. He also told us that Obama was the last president and then he told us that Obama wouldn’t leave office.
  • In 2017, he told us that he bought the plane to go to the cities one last time (again).
  • In 2019, he told us that he had an open door in Jerusalem to buy one of two buildings (which both fell through).
  • And just last year, he told us that Trump would remain president.

He has told us time and time again that Christ is about to return, that we will flee within three years or less, that this is the last president, that it is all about to end. He has been telling us this for more than 30 years now!

If you are honest, you have to admit that none of his prophecies have come true!

Ever notice that he tends to “prophesy” retrospectively? He is now telling us that Biden was prophesied because there is a pause in Jeroboam’s rule. If he is a true prophet, why didn’t he know this before the election? Why did he spend half a million dollars telling everyone that Trump would remain president if he knew that Trump wouldn’t!

If he is a prophet, then he is a lousy prophet at best! And if he is a false prophet, you should not fear him! And you should not believe his lies nor his scams.

Gerald Flurry is a false prophet, a con artist and a liar. He is not going to take you to a place of safety and you’re not getting a double crown for following him.

Cursed is the man that puts his trust in another man. (Jeremiah 17:5)

P. S. PCG members may think that the court case is an example of fulfilled prophecy. GF talked about the Mystery of the Ages lawsuit towards the end of this KOD (14:00), which he has always called a “victory.” [May 2003 Philadelphia Trumpet, “Miracle Victory! And What It Means”]. He said on this KOD, “God forced them (WCG) to give us more than we asked for.” He declared that Mystery of the Ages “is a synopsis of the entire Bible” and “is the second most important book on this earth.” To read more about this lawsuit go to: Sold Copyrights to Philadelphia Church of God. This part will also link to the letter: “PCG Did NOT Win a Victory in the WCG vs. PCG Court Case” (email to ESN from Attorney at Law). Gerald Flurry does indeed think that prophecy is proof of God. (Royal Vision, December 7, 2018, “Prophecy Is the Proof of God”); May-June 2020 Philadelphia Trumpet, “Prophecy Is Proof of God.”

–M. K. (former member of PCG)

Fred Dattolo Pushes Theme of “Obey God’s Government”:

July 4, 2021

I was sent a sermon “Know Your Enemy” by Fred Dattolo. Dattolo is one of the main ring leaders in the PCG pushing dread and terror into the hapless members and pressuring them to knuckle down and “obey God’s government, which includes “supporting God’s Work.” He hammered members incessantly about how Satan’s main goal is to “destroy God’s government” and to “destroy as many people as he possibly can” and “divide.” At one point he told what Satan wanted to destroy and repeated the words “government” three times in one sentence, one after the other like a broken record, saying that’s what Satan was “broadcasting.” PCG’s top ministers are despots who will use threats and twisting of Scripture to get their message across in order to keep members from leaving.

I want to point out some of the damnable lies in this sermon (which I’ve placed in purple:

Dattolo cherry picks Scripture, especially when he said “God’s Spirit is given to those who repent and obey God’s Law.” The Bible no where says we are to “obey God’s Law” in order to receive His Spirit. Christians are no longer under the Law, (Read: The Sin Question) We are not to look to the Law to save us, but to look to the Lord Jesus Christ.

“The Law is the basis of God’s Government.” The words “God’s government” are not in the Bible. These words refer to the government (i.e., tyrannical rule) at PCG HQs.

“The emphasis today is on the warning [i.e., prophesy again] because time is short.” How long are we going to hear the words “time is short”? We’ve heard them since HWA first started speaking them decades ago.

“If we don’t do God’s Work, the church will die.” First of all, Jesus said the gates of Hell would not prevail against His church (Matthew 16:18); secondly PCG is not God’s Church and there is much posted on the ESN to prove that; thirdly the words “God’s Work” are not in the Bible. God’s Work actually refers to the needs and wants of the leader; i.e., Gerald Furry.

“We could die spiritually if our hearts are not in this Work.” Where is this in the Bible? Ponder Jesus’ words in John 10:28: “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”

Dattolo carried on about how the “only way we are going to endure to the end” is “working hard to finish this Work” which translates into sending GF more money.

He beat them down by telling them if they “can’t submit to God’s government” they “never will be in God’s Kingdom.” Where does the Bible say that? It’s not there.

“We’ve got to be really converted to understand this.” False! We have got to work hard to come out from under the mind control to see through what Dattolo is spewing forth. Check up on his words; look up the Scriptures; understand what he’s getting at and how he’s trying to manipulate you.

“There is never a reason to abandon God’s government and leave God’s church unless you are deceived.” Yes, there is good reason to leave when you realize you are being deceived by the Flurries at HQs, who are eager to take your hard earned money and keep you toiling under heavy burdens so that you will give even more.

Does Fred Dattolo read the Bible? Does he teach what it says? No! Notice this sentence that he said:

“Christ came to first, restore God’s government and then save man.” That is a lie which can be refuted by Scripture: I Timothy 1:15: “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” Matthew18:11: “For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.” John 12:47: “And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.”

Christ is not focused on “Government” and “God’s Work.” He redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Galatians 3:13); He came to minister and give His life a ransom for many (Matthew 20:28). This is a concept that Dattolo is has no comprehension of. But he will stand before God someday and answer to Him for all his lies, twisting of Scripture, and abuse of those who believed they were truly obeying God.

He quoted from HWA several times. Why does he (and other PCG ministers) constantly lean on and look to Herbert Armstrong’s words? Wasn’t HWA a false prophet? Isn’t Gerald Flurry one also? Why follow a false prophet?

When someone gets caught up in PCG, they lose the ability to think critically. But they can regain it again. See this 2013 letter: PCG Rules With Fear

Members can choose to cast off the burdens of PCG and walk away–not in the direction of those who will exploit them again and lie to them–but to Christ Jesus who will give them rest. (Matthew 11:28) They don’t have to be held by their fears anymore. –sermon critiqued by L. S.

Comment: The ESN has always had much helpful material on our site to assist anyone that has exited these destructive and deceptive groups. Read: How do I recover after exiting an abusive group?

Criticism is a Badge of Honor for the Ministry in PCG:

July 4 2021

Reading the June 30 letter entitled, “Brian Davis and Wayne Turgeon Are Two of the Worst at HQ,” one thing stands out. For the ministry of the PCG to get criticism is like a badge of honor. ESN letters give them something titillating to preach about to a captured congregation which has no idea what is going on outside of their own camp. These ministers recite the same list of Bible verses that refer to persecution and say, “See, here is proof that we are doing God’s work.”

No one can be so difficult to reach as those who perceive correction as the way to justify their belief.

Gerald Flurry has preached since the beginning of the PCG that, “The alter [PCG] has been set back on its base [HWA].” This makes him and the PCG immune to correction and is why the very message is about allegiance to a man, or to a rock. Nothing could be more dangerous. –A. B.

What is the Meaning of Jeremiah 3:16?

July 4, 2021

In all my years with the WCG and the PCG I never heard this verse (Jeremiah 3:16) mentioned in any sermon or in any literature. A few days ago I heard it mentioned in a Christian Church sermon on the television and was immediately struck by what I thought to be the meaning of this verse, in regard to the Law (the whole Law) and the Covenant with the Israelites, the Jewish people today, as well as the PCG and the Seventh Day Adventists. If you have an article on this verse or an explanation of the true meaning, please forward it to me as soon as possible.

May our Father keep blessing the work you do. –Impacted by loved ones in PCG [name withheld]

Reply: This verse is a prophecy of the future in the Millennium. They will not long for the good old days of the Ark and it won’t even be thought of. The actual glory of God in the presence of his people will be sufficient … More was sent in a personal reply to this person.

Boasting and Everything is Royal in PCG:

July 5, 2021

PCG uses the word “Royal” every time they turn around. [see June 22 letter] So it’s no surprise that Joel Hilliker, who is not only the principal of Imperial Academy but the SEP Assistant Director, recently proclaimed, “Summer Educational Program is off to a terrific start, with the theme ‘On Fire for Your Royal Future.’”

Along with not only pushing everything “Royal,” I can’t help but notice how GF revels in telling how many stations they are on now, how much literature has been mailed out, and how many letters they’ve received (in spite of response always being lower in the summer months). Isn’t that is bragging and of the flesh? They are also boasting how Regional Director Wayne Turgeon traveled throughout England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, plus Belgium, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Switzerland, and invited a number of people to services. –FL

Kirk Macdonald Dies:

July 5, 2021

Kirk Macdonald, preaching elder in eastern Canada, passed away July 2. His brother Garth Macdonald also died while in the PCG several years ago. [Read: Garth Macdonald Dies Due to Lack of Medical Care] –Australia

Kirk Macdonald Died of Diabetes:

July 10, 2021

Just received the news that Kirk Macdonald, age 41, died of a “health trial” with diabetes which intensified towards the last few days. He died on July 2. As far as I know, he was not taking any medicine for his diabetes. His brother Garth died due to lack of medical care. He left behind three children, ages 15, 12 and 9 and a wife Nichole.–Anonymous

Kirk Macdonald Dies Without Medical Care:

July 10, 2021

Brad Macdonald gave a Bible Study the end of June, “Precious is the Death of a Saint.” Since I am sickened about this, I am going to quote from his words: [bolding is mine]

“My brother Kirk’s health has taken a turn for the worse this week. He’s 40 and a minister in Canada. Has 3 children. He’s had some underlying issues. Had diabetes for 3 or 4 years. He’s put his trust in God for healing and been doing what he can do through diet and exercise to manage the diabetes. Last weekend he wasn’t feeling very well; he started to lose strength and energy, and then Monday and Tues [June 28 & 29] his health deteriorated further and then by Wed [June 30] he really wasn’t sleeping and had a lot of pain in his joints and was finding it really difficult to breathe. Last night he fell asleep at 11:00PM which we thought was good, but he hasn’t woken up yet, so he’s been asleep for a long time. So we don’t know exactly how this is going to end or the way it is going to end. But he’s not doing great.”

What kind of evil men are these in PCG that teach to rely on God for healing when there is medicine to alleviate their suffering and even prolong their life? There’s evidently many more who are dying or have already died in PCG due to lack of medical attention as Macdonald went on to say:

“There are a lot of God’s people who suffer through health trials and die in the faith.”

PCG ministers won’t tell members that they shouldn’t go to doctors (this is the same as Herbert Armstrong would say) but Macdonald continued with these words:

“We need to know where we stand and we need to make sure the number one concern is NOT the earthen vessel. The number one concern is the spiritual treasure inside and we have to protect that. (Then he told how his brother Kirk valued the spiritual treasure over the earthen vessel.)

–[name withheld]

Will Take a Massive Shaking Up:

July 11, 2021

I think it will take a massive shaking up in PCG to really wake members up. Perhaps with GF’s death, even though the old buzzard could live for many more years. We saw how long HWA lived (and he was seeing doctors). There wasn’t a big enough shaking with GF’s failed “Trump prophecy” because he had all his bases covered and he knew if he could come up with the perfect lie the obedient members would keep hanging on. Liars (and sociopaths) are conniving enough to know how to drag deceit out for years and years.

Regrettably, I’ve seen people leave and immediately start checking out some other “one true church of God” on the Internet. They are in actuality saying “Christ is not enough for me; my whole identity is still tied to the Armstrong cult.”

The fear in PCG is overwhelming. It overshadows any critical thinking for the majority. The cult leaders of these groups that have perpetuated all this are pure evil. –A. R.

Unrelenting Performance, Pressure and Effort:

July 12, 2021

As a rule, I don’t like to have anything to do with PCG or GF but out of curiosity I decided to agree to let my PCG source record the July 11 Celtic Throne performance on DVD for me so I could view it. I can see why these flashy Celtic Throne shows are bringing in another source of income for GF. However, it takes a heavy toll on the dancer’s legs and they must ice afterwards. I’m definitely not for the tremendous pressure put on these youth to perform. No doubt that’s something GF doesn’t care about as long as the money keeps rolling in. It seems everything in PCG is 100% unrelenting performance, pressure and effort, especially at SEP. –[name withheld]

Will SF Take Over When GF Dies?

July 12, 2021

I know some are wondering how much longer GF will live. Do you have any idea who will take GF’s place when he dies? Do you think Stephen Flurry Will Take Over? –W. A.

Reply: Read this excellent 2019 letter: Stephen Flurry Will Most Certainly Take Over / Get Out Now

All the Deaths of Younger Adults in PCG:

July 13, 2021

Even though we have been out of PCG for nearly 20 years, we have seen and heard about all the deaths of younger adults in the PCG. It has been this way since the early 90’s. The PCG seems to have an extraordinary amount of adults ages 20-45 dying. They appear to have a lot more younger people than organizations like UCG. They have families with 3 generations of PCG membership. They are loyal to GRF and the organization.

Before I got married, I briefly dated two different ladies who both eventually died of cancer. The first one was about 30 when she died. I was still in PCG at that time. The second lady died at about 40. This was several years after we left PCG. These were not isolated incidents. Sometimes it’s cancer, other times it’s diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, aneurysms, bacterial infections, etc. And of course suicides!

This is clear evidence that the PCG is under a curse, and the membership is not being blessed with good health and miraculous healing! And they aren’t the only offshoot facing this dilemma. We have known (now deceased) members in other organizations who went all over the world for cures for cancer and came up short. Honestly, as a general rule we feel most COG members are in worse health than the heathen world that they preach against.

Most of the ministers in the offshoots will not give sermons on healing. And if they do it would probably just be a lot of misinformation from HWA. If they preach sermons on healing they run the risk of offending members and that means they will lose money. Their silence is deafening! –Former member of LCG/RCG/PCG [name withheld]

Comment: Read: Herbert Armstrong Received a Bag of Medicine and Had a Parade of Doctors (Letter to ESN from an area sales manager who worked for a pharmaceutical company at the time)

Flurry Bragging Again:

July 16, 2021

Good old Gerry is bragging about winning the court case again for HWA copyrights in his July 10th sermon. If only the members would know the truth about the court case.

Makes me nauseous just hearing his voice.

P. S. Columbia, South America was announced as being a new Feast site. Please add to the list of sites.


NOTE: Here is the February 23, 2007 letter we received from an attorney we were in contact with at the time: PCG Did NOT Win a Victory in the WCG vs. PCG Court Case.

GF’s Boasting in His “God Family” Sermon:

July 17, 2021

Gerald Flurry’s recent sermon entitled, “The God Family” was given to the youth at SEP. In it he made some wild over-the-top, even crazy, statements. Those who understand the false doctrines he is teaching, and the deceitful path he is on, will be able to spot this. Some of my comments are in brackets and in purple.

He started and ended with loud music. Beforehand, it was the Celtic Throne music, which began with drums.

At the beginning he did nothing but boast about the Celtic Throne performance, including the important people they had brought in. The CT performances are very important to GF and especially to his ego. He said the CT was “choreographed by God”; “inspired by God,” that this is one way the youth are “serving in the Work,” and it inspires them to “work even harder.” Astonishingly, he said the dancers “begin at age 4.”

According to GF, this CT performance is a “God family” message “showing the world how God’s family serves” and how God “brings them nothing but blessings in their lives.”

“We show them God’s way of life when they look behind the scenes.” [OK, let’s look at that scene. On the front we hear stirring, powerful music, spectacular lighting, dazzling costumes, young people Irish step-dancing across the stage, as they celebrate the “New Throne of David.” Then we pull the curtain back and what do we see? Destroyed families due to the no contact ruling, abuse, suffering, fear, control, exploitation, lies, unhappy children and young people. We see misery, sorrow, even death. Isn’t something very wrong with this picture?] [Note by ESN: To read more about all this see: Testimonies by Those Impacted by Philadelphia Church of God and letters.]

In this sermon GF emphasized Malachi’s Message, the Laodiceans, and how “God’s Law is taught at the SEP” and “we have to get out a God family message.”

“The Law is essential for this church to survive.” [Without the Law the members would find they are under grace and would leave. See: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God.]

“God is going to forget the Laodiceans’ children if they forget God’s Law.” [Won’t this crazy statement make the PCG youth, especially the children of top ministers, feel special and glad that they are part of an elite, favored group?]

Over the top statement—> “We have to be God to be married to God. That’s an amazing truth.” [It’s also an amazing lie.]

[Note: For those who want to look into this “God family” doctrine, it is covered in our two Mystery of the Ages critiques.]

After quoting from Malachi where it says Elijah would turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, etc., GF says the reason they have SEP is because God says (primarily says to the ministers but also to those who follow them), “If you refuse to teach that, you are going to lose your eternal life.” … “That’s very serious for you young people, and you have to understand this.” [Do the Scriptures anywhere say we can lose our eternal life? If we could, it wouldn’t be eternal.]

There was talk about how the hearts are being turned to the fathers, etc. [When have the children’s hearts been turned to the fathers or vice versa? See: Testimonies From Child Survivors.] GF has blinders on, just as HWA did, in thinking everything is so wonderful and marvelous with the young people in PCG. Isn’t it the children of the top ministers that claim all is wonderful?

He says Satan has turned 95% of God’s people [now Laodiceans] away and “Satan can seduce you right away.” [Wouldn’t this make Satan more powerful than God? He read several scriptures in I John yet didn’t understand what he was reading.

Crazy statement—–> “Christ must be with your Spirit. … If Christ isn’t with that Spirit the Spirit won’t help you.” GF could not even understand Galatians 5:18 (which he read): “But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.” He quickly went right on to say, “If you don’t keep the Law the Law will break you.” [Where does it say that in the Bible?]

He talked a lot about the movie Star Wars at the end and said if they (the youth) have the work ethic like George Lucas did, God is going to “bless their lives in ways like they could probably never imagine.” “If you really want to make it with God, you’re going to have to be a great servant. … an outstanding servant to God–to His Work, to His message, getting this message out.” [This would include giving their money to PCG.]

GF said he loved the music in Star Wars, but said it’s all fantasy. [Seems that what GF is preaching is fantasy] And we have to “proclaim this God family message.” After stating, “Let the real force be with you,” he played the theme of Star Wars loudly at the end.

Does Gerald Flurry speak the truth? Does he have the Holy Spirit within him? Or is he unregenerate, hardened to the suffering and evil he has caused and even allows? Has he given himself over to a reprobate mind? Has he been taken over by a lying spirit? Isn’t this what happens to those who claim they “speak for God,” have received “new revelation,” appropriate biblical titles for themselves that belong to Christ, and then go on to leave Christ Jesus out as Lord and Savior and the center of their message, and of the entire Bible, failing to focus on Him, but instead focus on fables and lies?

This warning has been given before. Get out before it is too late! –sermon critiqued by L. S.

GF Using Elements of Pop Culture:

July 20, 2021

I think it’s interesting how GF is using elements of pop culture in his sermons (references to George Lucas and music from Star Wars). Reminds me of a sermonette I heard one time when I was attending the UCG where a minister used the pop song, “The Way” by Fastball as a basis of his sermon. He played the song, then used the lyrics to describe how “the church” was trying to show the world “the way.” –M. L.

Working at Edstone Like There Is No End in Sight:

July 21, 2021

In spite of GF and the big honchos at HQs saying the Tribulation and their fleeing to the Place of Safety is “coming soon,” they are working at Edstone like there is no end in sight. Not only are they continuing to work like beavers on their farm there–mostly using the students as free labor–but they have been busily engaged in recent months with projects such as: buying sheep and cows; spreading parking lot gravel; trenching a new sheep water trough; digging a hard-standing for a sheep shed and for a cattle shelter; bringing in top soil; planting Yew trees; replacing light fixtures; sanding and cleaning floors; installing irrigation pipe and fencing; refinishing Edstone Hall’s main staircase, along with re-staining the ceiling beams, and the latest, installing a new camera in the room where services are held. A camera for what?? To watch the members?? To make sure some unwanted visitor doesn’t slip in?? They are also now looking into potential future excavations in Jerusalem. That’s right. More excavations. It all sounds wonderful to the members who are admonished to keep praying about all these undertakings.

Either GF thinks he has a hundred years left, or as some have pontificated, perhaps he and SF and all those “godly” ministers are planning on making Edstone their own “place of safety” when and if things get really rough in the U.S., and leave the members behind to fend for themselves.  –Florida (excerpts taken from The Friday Philadelphian)

Free Speech Being Censored on Social Media:

July 24, 2021

In view of how free speech is not allowed anymore on social media and we are being censored for what the powers to be consider “misinformation,” I want to mention this program: National Crawford Roundtable. They have a new discussion each week. The latest is: “Episode 101 Forced Vaccination.” I recommend listening to this one. It was outstanding. “Roundtable” is only one more program besides The HighWire with accurate information that is still getting out. You may have linked to them in the past. Everything that is happening in the world today is becoming more and more like George Orwell’s 1984 and it takes much discernment to sift through all the conflicting info and reports foisted on us. –A. R.

Reply: Yes, very true, and we have listened to all of it which was very good.  Thomas Jefferson said, “Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.” We had our freedoms taken away by the cult; it behooves us to recognize what is happening now. Our description of National Crawford Rounding is: Discerning podcast Episodes with logical thinking. An honest review of what’s happening in our world; includes current events, hard news, cultural ideas and more. No left wing agenda. New discussions weekly. [scroll down when page opens].

PCG Members Allowed to Contact “Laodiceans”?

July 27, 2021

I was talking with some of my family members that I had to shun when I was still attending PCG. They were telling me how one active member is now in full mode contact with them and the ministry is aware. I also know of another member who was recently in photos at a family gathering party that was full of so called “Laodiceans” as PCG likes to call us. So I asked this family member if PCG policy has changed on members having contact with ex-members and they did not know but did say these two family members are allowed communication with ex-members who are physical family. –Ex PCG [name withheld]

Reply: We have not heard anything about the no-contact ruling being changed or loosened. GF and top ministers speak against Laodiceans as much as they always have.

PCG and Laodiceans / No-Contact Ruling Has Not Changed:

July 28, 2021

The newest posted letter [July 27] is upsetting because the PCG has not in any way shape or form relaxed it’s stance on contacting and communicating with ex members aka Laodiceans. It is strongly reinforced that they are a poison and like a cancer and members are not to have contact unless it is an end of life type situation. On occasion, when it suits their whim of the day, they may decide to decree that a person’s baptism wasn’t valid so you “may” have some limited contact. Or perhaps, an unbaptized child who left, you are in certain cases “allowed” limited contact. But there is no change, there never will be a change. They would lose control of their people and their membership is dwindling. They can not afford to lose control of a single person and risk them being exposed to someone who may make them question or doubt their beliefs.

I just wanted to clear that up. They are not reasonable, they are still destroying families and separating them, and they simply don’t care. So I definitely don’t want people thinking they have changed or relaxed their policy when they have not. –Ex PCG member [name withheld]

PCG Members Going to Place of Safety or Not?

July 30, 2021

I know of PCG members who have expected to be taken to the Place of Safety by now because they are becoming afraid of all that’s going on in the news.  Some even think GF is dialing back and they will be going through the Tribulation. But I thought they had been told Trump needs to get back in first? –N.

Reply: PCG has made it clear that it is the “Laodiceans” that will go through the Tribulation. Members will not be going to a “place of safety” because it is all a lie. GF is scaring members in order to keep them from leaving and to keep them sending in money to HQs.

Cults Want to Control Everything in Your Life:

July 30, 2021

One of the traits of a cult is controlling everything in the person’s life. This is the reason people who leave have a lot of trouble making their own decisions, because they have been treated as children. In the July 23 Friday Philadelphian men were reminded of the ruling about white shirts as it says: “Reminder: Pastor General Gerald Flurry has said that men should wear white shirts to Sabbath and holy day services. A full suit is also preferred.” Preferred means you better do it.

I found an article written by Gareth Fraser (November 16, 2018), “God’s Character in Your Clothing” and in it he says: “The way we present ourselves on the outside reveals much about our character on the inside.” He talks about the “Philadelphian Standard” and reiterates how Herbert Armstrong wrote an article, “The Way We Dress Could Keep Us Out of God’s Kingdom.”

This is why GF is telling the men (and women) how to dress. In a cult everything is regulated and spelled out. This is the opposite of freedom. –[name withheld]

More Feast Sites Added:

August 1, 2021

According to the July 30 Philadelphian, it appears that PCG has booked more Feast sites (which need to be added to the 4-10-21 list). There’s a new site in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, which they just secured a few weeks ago. Also, after months of “ever-changing government restrictions,” they have booked a Feast site in Edstone, England for about 100 members, and Limburgse Peel, the Netherlands for about 50 members. Travel is restricted between the United Kingdom and Europe, necessitating two sites and preventing them from being open to transfers. They also booked two sites in Africa: Limuru, Kenya, and Bergville, South Africa. There evidently are sites in New Zealand and Papua New Guinea which are being finalized. A Fiji site is booked, but the government there continues to enforce severe lockdowns. It looks like the Feast in Manila, Philippines may have to be virtual as PCG has researched back-up halls for the Feast after the national government announced a new strict lockdown for metro Manila from August 6 to 20. PCG is going to spare no effort to get members to these Feast sites as that is what will bring in the most money for GF.  –FL

How PCG Instills a “We” Versus “Them” Mentality Through Buzzwords:

August 1, 2021

It’s been brought up before that PCG uses the word “royal” over and over. “Royal Calling” for example. “Royal Philadelphia standard” is used 29 times in GF’s book Malachi’s Message. “Royal” is essentially a buzzword. Buzzwords (aka “loading the language) are frequently used in cults. Your part on“Loading the Language” in Lifton’s Eight Criteria of Thought Reform brings this out. By using buzzwords cults are able to instill a “we” versus “them” mentality. According to cult-expert Stephen Martin, “loading the language” means to manipulate “words and phrases to produce ‘thought-terminating clichés'” which results in a “narrowing and constriction of thought processes.” This leads to an enforced dependency on the group. Taken from: Identifying Religious Brainwashing: Loading the Language (Part 6 of 8) which explains much more. –T. S.

Stephen Flurry Brainwashes the Youth at SEP:

August 3, 2021

Stephen Flurry gave it his best shot to brainwash the youth at SEP (PCG Youth Camp 7-6 to 7-26) with his July 17 sermon, “Your Malachi’s Message Challenge,” saying it was “their history.” This sermon almost topped all his others for number of lies. I will only mention some of them from notes I received, as many have already been covered on the ESN site.

He said it was 18 years ago when PCG won the court case for the rights to Mystery of the Ages in 2003 (Read: PCG Did NOT Win a Victory in the WCG vs. PCG Court Case email to ESN from Attorney at Law) and that he wrote the book Raising the Ruins in 2006 (selling the book at that time I might add).

He brought out how July 16 was the so-called “anniversary of God resuming the spiritual rain” on that day in 1989 (in GF’s booklet Daniel: Unsealed At Last! originally published in 1999, revised 2001, 2004, 2007, 2012, 2014 and 2016, GF says the end of the 1,150 days was March 11, 1989), and “we’ve enjoyed some spectacular revelation ever since.” Malachi’s Message is what he says “started it off.”

Then SF told the tall tale about himself and how his father made the point in The Epistle of James booklet that when he (GF) gave him (SF) the manuscript to Malachi’s Message on July 16, 1989 “It was like I was getting to read a rough draft of new revelation.” A rough draft of new revelation? What crazines.

He rambled about the manuscript to MM and how “inspiring and exciting it was to read that manuscript for the very first time.” Of course, he left out the part about how the first time he read the manuscript he thought his Dad “was crazy.” (Read the words in the testimony: Suffered Many Abusive Experiences.) Instead he said “that book really strengthened my faith in God” and “this is the book that revived the Work of God.” (Read: Fallacies and Contradictions in Malachi’s Message by Mike) Also read: Gerald Flurry Relied on Helen Amos for Much of His Prophecies (February 28, 2017) This letter mentions Robber’s Cave which was the exact place and time where SF read Malachi’s Message and “saw the light” and was baptized.

In more of this idiocy he said the N. T. book of James is referring to PCG and “Elijah” in that book is referring to HWA and the end of James is referring to the PCG youth at SEP camp!

Not only did he say “Everything started with Malachi’s Message,” but he reminded his listeners that GF proclaimed, “Malachi’s Message is the most important revelation from God in the Laodicean era!” … (This is very similar to how HWA wrote in Mystery of the Ages, “Time may prove this to be the most important book written in almost 1,900 years.”) MM he said was used to revive God’s Work” and “If Satan destroys Malachi’s Message, he destroys the Work.” These are absolute asinine statements.

Malachi’s Message was “God’s challenge” he asserted. His “I dare you challenge” to the youth. “It had all the answers; it told you exactly what to do.” It is so typical for cult leaders to have some mystical book that furnishes all the answers.

Leading them to lift HWA high on a pedestal, he told them that as they delve into Malachi’s Message “they are automatically and immediately reminded of why God has such a high opinion of Herbert Armstrong.” (Read articles on Herbert W. Armstrong) “Studying Malachi’s Message will build your faith” he said. (It wasn’t reading the Bible that would build their faith.)

He raised his voice when he quoted from the O. T. book of Malachi. “God said, I sent this message to you. … You shall know this is revelation from God!” He even twisted and mangled II Thessalonians 2 saying God sent the strong delusion but “He also sent this message” (MM).

Trying to be extremely serious, he said to the youth, “God is challenging you to fight for His Truth and even die for it if necessary.” (The word “die or dying” is often spoken of in PCG sermons.)

The longer SF talked the thicker the lies got. It looks like SF doesn’t know how to do anything but continually lie over and over until the lies are so deep and the webs so thick that innocent and gullible people have a horrific time finding their way out. How can someone that presumes to speak for God lie so much?? We know that Satan is the father of lies.

SF worked hard in this sermon to turn the youth away from Christ and onto a bogus book where those that read it will embrace lies. SF will keep right at it because after he read Malachi’s Message in 1989 at the age of 19, it didn’t take him long to realize that this story-line had the potential for a great money-making scheme, and neither he nor GF were about to let it go.

Someday there will be a reckoning for such liars and SF and GF will stand before God and answer for all the evil that they’ve perpetrated against those who trusted them. –sermon critiqued by AJW

Ironies and Evil Fruit in PCG:

August 6, 2021

In the August 6 Friday Philadelphian it says GF (when he delivers his sermon at HQs tomorrow) has “elected to repeat the Key of David program ‘God’s Promise to Heal,’ which offers the rarely promoted Plain Truth About Healing booklet, … We love to get the healing booklet truth out to the public,” said television department head Andrew Locher, “as they really need this education and encouragement to rely on God in faith.” [emp. mine] You mean like Kirk Macdonald who relied on God in faith for healing and died?? Do you mean like his brother Garth who relied on God in faith for healing and died?? Do you mean like all the others in PCG (many whom we will never hear about, including wives of ministers) who “relied in faith on God for healing and died”?? Do you mean like all the thousands in WCG in years past who “relied on God in faith for healing” and also needlessly died?? Is that what you mean?! Locher is not going to say the words “for healing” but that’s exactly what he means.

Ironically Amy Flurry (wife of SF) is teaching an online AC college course on “Introductory Nutrition” which will teach how to use nutrition to “improve the health of the individual and the family.” I can’t help but think this is tied in with helping members have better health so hopefully they will not have to go to doctors; thereby, being able to send in more money to HQs.

And the big Honcho himself, SF, will ironically teach “Marriage and the Family” (which sounds like it will be based on HWA’s book, Why Marriage?). I’m sure he will be the right candidate (character) for teaching this class after having had a major part in breaking apart countless marriages and families over the years!

Another ironic thing is the Philadelphian told about how the Phenix City, Alabama, PCG congregation has begun an “outreach program.” Is this outreach program focused on visiting hospitals and nursing homes in the community to encourage those who are sick, aged, widowed, orphaned or infirm and sing hymns? No! It is to visit those “unable to attend [PCG] services” and do all of these things for them! Heaven forbid if PCG ever reached out to the community and did acts of kindness such as these to those who were not members of PCG. But, of course, they do not make the effort because those people are labeled “in the world.” It’s even worse if someone is labeled a “Laodicean” as PCG leaves them to suffer alone.

Lastly, it’s been covered before that GF uses “free labor” by drafting AC students to do his work for him. This week seven AC students and two staff members (who helped a 3 man professional crew from New York) began cleaning and polishing 70,000 crystals in Armstrong Auditorium, along with cleaning the chandelier frames and light bulbs! You can be sure they were all carefully picked so that none of King Flurry‘s precious, dazzling, and expensive, crystals will be damaged or broken. –Anonymous

GF Requests that Children of Members and Prospective Members Receive Offering Envelopes:

[Following is the August 4 letter which has been moved down here because more words have been added and a title change.]

August 8, 2021

Andrew Locher recently sent a Dear Brethren letter to the members which included their offering envelopes for the fall holy days. In this letter he said that GF “has requested that offering envelopes also be sent to the children of members and prospective members so they might be taught the principle of cheerfully giving back to God according according to how He has blessed us.” [emp. mine]

Offering envelopes for children in PCG are nothing new. They have been provided for children in the past, at what age I am not sure but certainly to the youth (teenagers) in PCG. What is new in this Dear Brethren letter is GF’s request that offering envelopes be provided to children of prospective members (something I was never aware of before). You can read the letter here: Dear Brethren letter from Andrew Locher.

This Dear Brethren letter is very similar to what Locher wrote two years ago except there was no mention at that time of children of prospective members giving an offering. The article is entitled, “Teach Your Children to Give” (Guidelines for holy day offerings), April 17, 2019 by Andrew Locher. GF is either hard up for money or just plain greedy, which is nothing new. –Anonymous

Power Hungry Hypocrites:

August 11, 2021

The PCG ministry, especially those two head honchos GF and SF, are described so accurately by the Word of God in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Matthew 23:1-7:

“Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, saying: ‘The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’”

These PCG ministers sit in Moses’ seat (they think they do anyway). The members have to do what they are told, but should not do what the ministry does, because after all, let’s get real, ministers in the PCG do not practice what they preach. And doesn’t verse four hit a home run?

“For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders ($$$ for their rich lifestyle); but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.”

And is it not apparent that they conduct their works to be seen by men? I love this one:

“They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues (Auditorium, feast sites, congregations, etc)”.

They love to be called by men, ‘Pastor General, Evangelist Stephen Flurry and Evangelist Wayno Turgeon–oh, I’m sorry, Wayne.

These men only care about being in power. There is nothing wrong with being in a position of power when you are a merciful and compassionate person. I am sure that these power hungry hypocrites have compassion and mercy towards their own.

Luke 6:32-36:

“But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.”

–M. G.

PCG Moving Their Feast Site From Tweed Heads:

August 13, 2021

Because of ongoing government lockdowns and restrictions, PCG has had to move their Feast site from Tweed Heads. They have secured sites in Queensland, New South Wales, Tasmania, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia. This is in spite of New South Wales and Victoria still being in lockdown. –Anonymous

I Was Described as a Threat to PCG’s Cause:

August 15, 2021

I am a child who was mentioned in Case #3 in “Abuses I Was Aware of in Philadelphia Church of God.” I would like to elaborate on that story and talk about where I am now.

The reason I was thrown out was because of my mental health. I was deeply depressed, self harming nearly every day. It got to the point that I was admitted to a hospital. When the PCG found out what happened, my dad read a letter that was addressed to me. PCG described me as “a threat to their cause.”

I had so many friends that I deeply miss from my time there, but I know I’ll never see them again. As far as my life after this, I’m finally getting help and going to therapy. I tried to go to a church to appease a friend, and as soon as I entered I felt an overwhelming sense of dread. I haven’t been back since.

I don’t know if I’ll ever heal from it, but I’ve at least accepted that it happened. –Child survivor of PCG [name withheld]

Comment: This person has received a personal reply. See our section: Healing From Spiritual Abuse.

Your Website Has Helped a Lot:

August 15, 2021

(2nd email from person above)

Thank you so much for responding, and thank you so much for your website. It’s helped me a lot. –Child Survivor of PCG [name withheld]

Why Flurry Is Successful at Pulling People In:

August 16, 2021

Flurry is successful at pulling people in, not because God is “with him” (it’s more like Satan is with him), but because there are always people in the world who are interested in prophecy and end-time events, or who are desperate for answers due to frightening events in the news. A big danger is when they don’t heed the red flags they come across later such as “donate” or “send in an offering” or “become a co-worker.” –N. M.

Monotonous Sermon by GF Included Senseless Statements:

August 16, 2021

A nothing-new monotonous sermon by GF was passed on to me. It was entitled “Where We Are in Bible Prophecy.”

First, I want to mention that I believe one or more of the top goons in PCG are ghost-writing GF’s articles and booklets (or at least coaching him) as his literature reads differently than his spoken sermons.

GF started out, as he often does, with a croaking voice. Much of this dragged-out sermon was political and his voice was halting at times, especially when he read from his notes, which shows he is losing speed. It wasn’t an earth-shaking sermon so what I want to do is quote a few of the senseless things he said: [some emphasis is mine]

(1)”Donald Trump is coming back to gain his presidency.”
(2) “[the people in charge of America today] would like to blot out what we are doing most of all.
(3) “We expose the Devil and he hates that and is enraged by it.”
(4) “We are the top priority.”
(5) “New revelation came to HWA and has been coming to me. Quite a lot of it has been coming to me over the years.”
(6) “God is preparing us to show Jeroboam [Trump] and his followers what their main sin is and it’s rejecting the House of David and the Throne of David, and we have it [the Throne of David].”
(7) “The only light there is on this earth is right here!
(8) “If we didn’t have borders in this church, we wouldn’t have a church! Borders of a spiritual nature, of course,”
(9) “It’s all about a new civilization.”
(10) “We better keep this vision in our minds.”
(11) “The real Supreme Court has given us God’s Throne.”
(12) “Think about it–this eternal Royalty that God is building in us.”

There was the typical raising his voice when he emphasized certain words so that he would sound like HWA; however, GF is not what could be called charismatic. This deadpan sermon does not promote peace and rest since (as usual) there was nothing about keeping Christ Jesus in our minds (which Satan would be more against than PCG’s “exposure of the Devil”), only keeping the PCG “vision” in our minds. If people stay in the books that GF continually mulls over, such as Kings and Amos, they will never grasp that salvation is by grace through faith without the works of the Law (Read: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God) and that all of our sins have been completely forgiven (Read: The Sin Question). –sermon critiqued by AJW

GF and SF Are Just An Annoying Distraction:

August 18, 2021

If you have ever listened to GF and SF “prophesy” (which is impossible because they are not prophets, just self-appointed ones), don’t they sound like a “gong” or “clanging cymbal”? Look at these two verses in the Amplified Bible, which is appropriate in this context since both GF and SF like to amplify their voices–they must really like the sound of their own voices.

“If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love [for others growing out of God’s love for me], then I have become only a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal [just an annoying distraction].” (I Corinthians 13:1 AMP)

(Don’t you just love that one? “Just an annoying distraction”).

“And if I have the gift of prophecy [and speak a new message from God to the people], and understand all mysteries, and [possess] all knowledge; and if I have all [sufficient] faith so that I can remove mountains, but do not have love [reaching out to others], I am nothing.” (I Corinthians 13:2 AMP)

WOW! Reaching out to others?! That’s unheard of in the PCG. PCG ministry = Spiritual terrorists.

–Former PCG member

Boasting and SF’s Gleefulness on the Trumpet Daily Show:

August 18, 2021

On the August 16, 2021 Trumpet Daily, “Bible Prophecy and the Fall of Kabul,” Sam Livingston (who filled in for SF) kept blowing the horn about “America has won its last war” and “This is the end of the America super power” and “Herbert Armstrong prophesied about that for decades.” Really?

In the article Memories About Petra you can read about HWA saying “America has won its last war.” Livingston evidently doesn’t know that the predictions HWA gave about America were supposed to take place before 1975. See: The United States and Britain in Prophecy (What Did Herbert Armstrong Teach About it?).

Furthermore, there was no mention on this show about the followers of Jesus Christ in Afghanistan (persecution for them is only slightly less oppressive than in North Korea), or prayers needed for them at this time, because that’s the furthest thing from GF and SF’s mind. All they care about is peddling fear and false doctrine, pulling in the money, and boasting about HWA. Do they know that leaving Islam is considered a sign of insanity? That’s almost identical to what GF says about those who disagree with his “one true church.”

Then on the August 17 Trumpet Daily, “Afghanistan Defeat and the Last Hour,” SF’s voice was very loud as he talked about “America’s retreat” and “attack coming on America from without and within.” SF actually sounded gleeful that all this is happening. I think we already know how sick GF and SF are and how incapable of empathy they are. But they are not going to worry their little narrow-minded brains about any of this because they expect to be safely situated in the “Place of Safety” when and if everything eventually collapses. –L. S.

Gerald Flurry’s Insatiable Greed for More Money:

August 20, 2021

This is from the latest Friday Philadelphian: [emp. mine]

Festival Manager Jason Cocomise asks members who have not already done so to send their tithe of the tithe to headquarters. “Also, as a reminder, you can supplement your Last Great Day offerings with any remaining second tithe,” he said. “And, after or before the Feast, if you realize you will have excess second tithe, you can send that to headquarters at any time.”

All that giving is on top of regular tithes and offerings, a third tithe in third tithe year, building fund, jet offering–none of which ministers have to pay–and whatever else GF requires for his insatiable greed! One of the marks of a destructive group is “Giving Excessively” or “required giving” which is listed in Identifying Marks of an Abusive Group (scroll down to Four main characteristics, #4). No wonder so many struggling members and singles come back home broke after the Feast to face a mountain of bills!

GF already received $1.1 million dollars last year (see April 27, 2020 letter) and another million in 2021 (see April 3, 2021; also see May 2, 2021 letter). Is it being put to good use? Are widows and orphans in PCG having their needs met?

“Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” (James 1:27)

GF is living like a king while his followers struggle and fall at his feet. Children and family members are doing without and this is somehow supposed to be considered godly since GF is “prophesying again”?

“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (I Timothy 5:8)

GF pulled in an unmentioned amount of money for the 2,490 tickets sold for the four Celtic Throne performances this year. (The May 31, 2021 letter told how much the tickets cost last time depending on the seats.) There were 670 in attendance this time on the evening of August 16. No words can describe the extravagance of this Armstrong Auditorium. And while GF’s head must be bursting with pride over it, the impoverished members are the ones that were coerced into giving their last dime to have this monstrosity constructed.

If there are any members who are still able to think for themselves and can see that something is desperately wrong with GF and PCG, they need to get out before they are exploited further. But don’t run to another offshoot that will more or less exploit you again and deceive you. Turn to Christ and ask Him to release you from your fears and guide and help you, and He will. –[name withheld]

SF Being Gleeful About Situation in Afghanistan :

August 22, 2021

This is in reference to the August 18 letter about SF being “gleeful” about what has been happening in Afghanistan and his not even mentioning the followers of Jesus Christ who were trapped in that country. I wonder what he thinks now about the latest news that Glenn Beck has raised more than $21 million dollars in 3 days to help evacuate and rescue Christians in Afghanistan. [Update: After Raising Over $28 Million to Rescue Afghan Christians, Glenn Beck Shares Incredible Update. It is not just Afghan Christians his planes are evacuating. There are others because they are not flying with their planes half full.]

It’s not known if all of them will be able to be extracted but GF and SF are absolutely selfish since they would never think of anyone but themselves and their own $millions. They could care less since we know they have labeled these Christians in Afghanistan as “false Christians” and have zero responsibility to love them or pray for them. Even though Jesus said we should love our neighbor as ourselves [Mark 12:31] and the Apostle Paul said all the Law is fulfilled in this. [Galatians 5:14]

It is a tragic mistake when a government fails to remove their citizens and allies first before removing their troops [the military]. Yet GF is only interested in his false prophecies so he can apply them to his hoped-for United States downfall. This whole situation with all the suffering has been horrendous, yet SF sounded “gleeful” about it. So sick. –A. R.

SF Going All Out to Focus on Nothing But Politics:

August 23, 2021

SF is going all out focusing on nothing but politics during this crisis and for the purpose of attempting to tie everything in with “prophecy is being fulfilled.” This is nothing new but he is emphasizing it more at this time. You are right that there is no compassion from any of these wicked, evil men who are only interested in deceiving more people, so they can become even richer. –[name withheld]

Head Honchos in PCG Do Not Care About the Lost Sheep:

August 24, 2021

When Gerald Flurry and Stephen Flurry–and the PCG ministry in general–but especially those two head honchos come to mind, I am reminded of a certain Scripture in the Holy Bible. For example, the parable of the Lord Jesus Christ found in the Gospel of Luke.

“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.” (Luke 15:4-7)

I wonder if anyone who views this site could ever picture GF or SF going out of their way to follow up on a former Church member who has been booted out–probably for something petty–just to see if that person is surviving spiritually? Not on your life! These so called ministers do not care what happens to you once you are out. They could not care less. The only thing they are concerned about is that the money keeps rolling in so they can maintain their extravagant lifestyle. Not exactly following Christ’s example, are they? –M. G.

Comment: They don’t care. But the Lord Jesus does care about us and we can depend on Him to help us and heal us spiritually. We don’t need those wicked leaders for anything.

Twisted Trumpet Daily Covered “Curses From God”:

August 27, 2021

Another twisted Trumpet Daily program was given on August 26 and covered “curses from God.” It was filled with false doctrine as usual. I won’t go into everything he said as doctrine is covered on the ESN site. His voice always sounds horrible when he raises it and almost yells.

He brought out that what the Trumpet magazine said two decades ago was “not because we were rooting against the United States but because we were basing our forecast on Bible prophecy.” How twisted. They (and HWA) always emphasized the downfall of the U.S. and how Germany would attack. (Read: Did Herbert Armstrong Set Dates?) And it was never a “forecast” but a prophecy.

Another twisted remark, along with being a lie, was when he said, “Mr. Armstrong was a family man. That’s what he promoted. … Look at the church family under his leadership.” Sure he was a “family man.” Look at the life he led, the life of his son, and how he tore families apart.

GF has been spending a lot of time in the book of Amos so SF read from Amos 4 and said, “Are you humble enough to act on this teaching, this instruction? Will you hear the prophetic warning and consider your ways?” Then he says, “God says He has to bring these curses in order to humble you; to get you to turn.” First of all, that passage is God talking to Israel, not the N. T. Church.

He emphasized that “we want to be thinking about these events–these sobering events that we are talking about every day. We want to view them through God’s eyes.” His voice raised when he said, “What does this mean?” And then he said, “God is personally going to unleash destruction upon us because of our sins.”

Now how do words like that help anyone who is a Christian and has found their rest in Him?

When praying he said we shouldn’t just ask God things for ourselves (he called it me, me, me); we should ask what God expects from us.

He says we have to obey His commandments (i.e, the Mosaic Law) in order to be blessed and have peace. Yet we find in Ephesians 1:3 we who are in Christ are already blessed: “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:”

SF’s big problem is he spends his time in the O.T. Again he stressed curses and said, “We are seeing curses coming at us from every direction.”

Then he tells his listeners to ask for a the United States and Britain in Prophecy (which is covered on the ESN site).

The program was a mixture of truth and lies, like always. –critiqued by Anonymous

GF and SF Could Care Less About the Bloodbath in Afghanistan:

August 28, 2021

I am tired of all this crazy talk with SF and GF saying the United States is “cursed.” It is they who are cursed (spiritually) for all their lies and destruction of families. There’s a bloodbath going on in Afghanistan with Americans, civilians, Christians, and others being killed, and the only thing SF and GF can think about is “order our U.S. and Britain in Prophecy” booklet because “God is going to unleash destruction upon us.” They don’t have a wife who has to hear the words that her husband will never be coming home again. Or children that will never see their father again, or parents who will never see their child again. They don’t have to sit, kneeling in a line, waiting for their heads to be blown off (this recently happened). No, they have a cushy life and nothing to worry about except thinking how they can coerce more money out of people. My heart is grieved with what is going on over there in Afghanistan and I have been praying every day about it. I heard that the Christians who escaped to the mountains are depending on God to protect them. It all evil and satanic and GF and SF could care less except how they can profit from it. –H. E.

Where Do GF and SF Think They Will be Going If America is Destroyed?

August 29, 2021

All that is going on lately is upsetting for sure. But what I can’t figure out is where the Hell GF and SF and all the top gorillas think they will be going if America is going to be “destroyed by the United States of Europe” like they keep saying. They have got to know they are not going to some “place of safety” like they tell their members. I can’t believe GF and SF believe their own bull. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Reply:If something bad were to happen, GF and SF will be trying to save their own hides first. Perhaps they will fly to Edstone since it is self-sustaining with an abundance of food–vegetable gardens, sheep, cows, chickens, etc, and they could live there for quite awhile isolated in this “protected compound.” If PCG members become angry with GF when they aren’t taken to the expected “place of safety” it’s hard telling what GF will say or do. (HWA fled to Arizona during the Receivership in 1979). But GF will extort as much money as he can, and for as long as he can, from his followers. (One thing to note is that with all the produce PCG has at Edstone, none of it is ever shared with the less fortunate.)

Mark Hyde Gives Sermonette on Children Behaving on the Sabbath:

August 30, 2021

Since PCG has been gearing up for the Feast days, I recently received a sermonette from a private source for August 21 entitled “Teach Them to Behave on the Sabbath” by Mark Hyde (local church elder in Edmond).

Come to find out, this sermonette was based on a December 14, 2018 article by none other than henchman Joel Hilliker. The article, with a picture of a cute little child at the top, was entitled, “How Your Children Should Behave in Church Services” and goes on and on about “Upholding God’s Standards,” how it is “Holy Time,” etc., etc. This tyrannical article is far worse than this sermonette and can be found online at PCG church site.

Hyde started out by telling a story that happened way back in 1958 by some church youths (but not in PCG) who plugged up the toilets with a lot of toilet paper and flooded the bathroom. He followed by saying that children in PCG were running before and after services, even playing hide and seek downstairs, and these things shouldn’t happen. Also, too many trips to the restroom.

He quoted several times from a 1958 letter from Richard Armstrong [son of HWA, died in 1958; his death is covered on ESN’s site]. (Richard also gave a sermon in 1957 at the Feast of Tabernacles on “Child Rearing.”)

In this letter Richard told the parents “you are headed for the Lake of Fire if you don’t obey this!

Richard also told how he trained his dog and compared that to training children. Many who were long time members in WCG will remember Garner Ted Armstrong’s booklet, The Plain Truth About Child Rearing released in 1963 and which talked about how training a dog could be compared to training a child; i.e., you tell them to come, they come, you tell them to sit, they sit, you tell them to lie down, they lie down, etc.

Hyde said Richard quoted Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.” Then Hyde said another word for “curseth” could be sasses his father or mother.

Maybe Hyde should have likewise read Deuteronomy 13:5 and applied it to Gerald Flurry: “And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death;”

Richard said the reason these things are happening (with your children) is because “you are not holding Bible studies in your home, you are not fulfilling your responsibilities; your duty to them to teach them the Word of God!”

Hyde quoted the following words by Richard and said they were in capital letters (which I am sure much of the letter was): “You should COMMAND THEM! You are the AUTHORITY of God Almighty to your children!”

Imagine what that concept has done to many children’s minds. [See ESN article, How Can I Ever Trust God as Father?]

Hyde said you can start with blanket training–having your child lie on a blanket during services and not squirm around. He talked about PCG’s 2019 booklet: Child Rearing With Vision by Gerald Flurry.

Amazingly, Hyde said at the end, “People should be able to look at our children and see how happy they are.”

There are a several testimonies on this site about how “happy” PCG children have been. Also see: Spanking Babies and Harsh Discipline of Children in PCG which has at end “Screaming Sessions at Children in PCG (which mentions Joel Hilliker).

–Sermonette critiqued by AJW

Only God’s Justice Will Put a Stop to GF’s Cult:

August 31, 2021

I wrote the August 22 letter in response to SF being “gleeful” about the situation in Afghanistan. Another thing I haven’t heard SF talk about is “Pineapple Express” which was a group of highly trained U.S. military veterans who volunteered to secretly rescue hundreds of allied operative from Afghanistan under cover of darkness. However, you will hear about GF drawing thousands to his articles in the Philadelphia Trumpet and to his Key of David. Why? Because not only has he studied the methods of deceit and propaganda, but he has millions of dollars to accomplish it. Only God’s justice on them in the end can put a stop to their cult.

The latest I heard about the Afghan Christians is that there were 1,000 rescued, which is commendable, but there are still Americans stranded and with no way  to get home. Those Afghan Christians who fled to the mountains and hills continue to rely on God to protect them. Mission Network News site says: “Afghanistan is the second-fastest-growing Church in the world after Iran” and there are Christian ministries broadcasting live into Afghanistan. Is GF broadcasting in there? No! But he would if he thought it would gain him more subscribers and more money–and not cost him his head! As it is now, we can expect SF to continue to report in his “nonchalant” way, except when he is inciting fear. I wouldn’t doubt if SF and GF are laughing at all this, knowing how selfish and evil they are. –A. R.

Wik Heerma and His All or Nothing Statements:

September 1, 2021

PCG ministers use all or nothing statements. Wik Heerma (Southeast United States regional director) in his August 14 sermon, “What It Means to Grow in Peace,” said, “The way of peace can only be found in God’s one true church.” This excludes all other churches except PCG. The fallacy of such a statement is that Wik shows his ignorance of the Word of God. The Apostle Paul said, “For he [Christ] is our peace…” (Ephesians 2:14) Peace is found in a Person, the Lord Jesus Christ, not in a place or a church.

Wik called PCG, “God’s one true Church.” There is no one true Church as explained in Where is the True Church? Those who are in Christ Jesus are already in His church. Jesus said to come to Him (not a church) and He would give us rest (peace). (Matthew 11:28)

How can members in PCG have lasting peace with an ongoing diet week after week of fear, guilt, rules and performance?

Here is a good quote I found on the Questions & Answers:

To have peace and contentment with one’s faith is entirely different than being tricked into believing (as a result of fear and coercion) that one is in “God’s one true church,” and all others outside of it are lost and headed for the Great Tribulation or eternal death. Totalistic (authoritarian) groups have done great damage to individuals by causing them to hold to the belief of unconditional submission to a man that claims to be “God’s representative.” For anyone to manipulate another person’s mind for one’s own gain is a great evil.


What Happened to Andrew Hessong?

September 1, 2021

I am wondering if you or any of your readers can shed some light as to what happened to Andy Hessong? According to his Linked In Profile, as of June, he is no longer a Minister in the PCG. Another one bites the dust!!! –Ex PCG member

Comment: We haven’t heard anything. Andrew Hessong is the brother of the late Suzanne Hessong who died December 3, 2019. Brian Davis is his brother-in-law. As of 2020, Andrew Hessong was Western U.S. preaching elder.

GF and SF Won’t Say to Pray for Those Outside PCG:

September 2, 2021

I know why GF and SF don’t say anything about praying for Christians or Americans in Afghan or anyone anywhere in the world and don’t care about them (except for what they can get out out of them). I was reading the May 1, 2008 letter which tells the ways this former member suffered. I quote: [emp. mine]

“Another area in which I suffered spiritually was that it interfered with my ability to pray for others. PCOG teaches that only certain people are ‘called’ and will receive salvation when Christ returns to earth. The rest of the people will hear Him preach the gospel and decide whether or not to accept it, and Jesus will rule over them with an iron hand and make them all obey these ‘laws.’ Therefore, it’s really useless to pray for anyone on this side except for the PCOG leaders.”

Those who have left PCG already know this; others who have never been in PCG may not have. Even though PCG doesn’t pray for those outside PCG, I read on PCG’s church site that the “unconverted” should still pay tithes because Herbert Armstrong taught “God prospers tithe payers.” I’ve found no way to deal with a person who believes this way. It is the total opposite of how a true Christian should be. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Andrew Hessong / PCG is Slowly Unraveling:

September 4, 2021

Andrew Hessong was our minister. He was a yes man, a sycophant. I can’t imagine what he did to get fired, unless they had to lay him off. PCG has lost a lot of ministers this year and have replaced none of them. Seems like PCG is slowly unraveling, between their ministry and the withering membership. –Ex PCG

Like a Cult Following:

September 4, 2021

I listened to one of PCG’s “programs” that I came across. I thought at first it was a news program, but when the speaker started saying the Mark of the Beast was Sunday and I discovered they were teaching Anglo-Israelism, I never turned off anything so quick in my life. I will be sure and warn others.

I never believed that the shot they are trying to mandate is the Mark of the Beast but is a “precursor” to it, a dry run. (Big Pharma is going to get very rich off of this, too). A misinformation campaign is going on right now, not only in the media, but even within Christian circles, and it’s accomplishing the goal of dividing people. It’s like a cult following and people acting like zombies without thinking logically and critically. I’m glad I found your website. Thanks for what you’re doing. –C. S.

Comment: Read the April 19 letter above “PCG focusing on Death and Martyrdom” which tells about a Bible Study Andrew Locher gave on the “Mark of the Beast.”

Andrew Hessong’s Whole Life Was the Church:

September 4, 2021

Andrew Hessong’s whole life was “the church.” He grew up in it, went to Ambassador College, worked for the PCG for about 25 years. Now he is 51, no real world job experience, didn’t even pay into Social Security. He has no retirement, nothing, and has to start fresh at 51 with a wife and two kids to support. –Former member of PCG

Comment: This is what happens to many of PCG’s ministers when they are kicked to the curb.

Deaths in PCG Outnumber Baptisms:

September 5, 2021

The monthly deaths for PCG far out number monthly baptisms. In fact most baptisms are internal, i.e., college kids or other kids raised in the PCG. There are very few new people. –Left PCG

SF Talks About “Our Noah Like Work” and Going to the Place of Safety:

September 5, 2021

SF gave a Bible Study on August 20 at HQs entitled, “Our Noah Like Work” in which he compared GF’s “work” to “Noah’s work” and talked about members going to the Place of Safety. Below are some of the things he said.

He said Joel Hilliker had a Trumpet Brief  on August 18 (“Prophecy is Fulfilled in Afghanistan”) and he [Hilliker] “talked about these people desperately clinging to those cargo planes, even on the outside and he said that it brought to mind images of people clawing at the sides of Noah’s ark when God sent the flood.” [Those who read The Bible Story books in WCG will remember Basil Wolverton’s frightening cartoon depiction of that scene.]

“We in the church know the flood is coming.”

“And in a lot of ways, the pictures of those people all sitting on the bottom of that C-17, crammed in there– that may be something that we experience ourselves at some point. We don’t know exactly what it means to be lifted away to the place of safety on the wings of a great eagle. But somehow or another, we are gonna to fly to the Place of Safety. And as Amos 7 says, we’re gonna be escorted out, or asked to leave. … There might be some government jets that are part of that massive transport operation. … 10,000 saints headed off to the Place of Safety. And then when you look at the outside of the vessel, when the people know the rain has set in and it’s not gonna stop–it’s a pretty sobering visual.”

He referred to GF’s Peter booklet several times and said “We’re like the family of Noah. Hard at work during these final days of the present evil world. And soon we are going to be flying right into another world, a new world.”

He referred to 9-11 as the time they [PCG] “entered into the Last Hour.”

“Noah and his family were a type of this church; a type of this work that we are engaged in. A Noah like work. We are facing universal destruction.”“God promises to save us.”

“If we are supporting God’s preacher of righteousness [i.e., GF] [Noah was called a preacher of righteousness in II Peter 2:5], then God promises protection; God promises to save us.”

“This present, evil world is almost over.”

“When we are lifted over to the Place of Safety, that is the new world; that is the World Tomorrow.” … we are IT. We’re the hope of this world. This Noah-like work.”

“Noah had to go out and build for God for a century. Then the rains came. … He had to plan ahead.”

“It’s been almost a century since God opened the mind of Herbert Armstrong. And here we are–right where God prophesied.”

“We’ve got to support our preacher of righteousness.” [i.e., GF]

“We are here to tell this world that is about over.”

He quoted from GF’s Peter booklet and said “You can look at Noah’s example and see that God saves a few. God is going to save us; He’s going to rescue us. He’s going to protect us. He promises that. We’re His children and He’s our Father. He’s going to look after us.”

“God is still teaching us. The new revelation just continues. We haven’t even gotten some of the finer points or details regarding the Place of Safety and our flight and how that operation is going to be carried out. That is going to be exciting, getting some instructions in sermons from my father–‘Hey! We’ve got to be ready. God has shown me this and this and this about this verse here or this verse over there.’ Selling off our belongings. And being air-lifted out of a dangerous world.”

Reading from the Peter booklet again, “Noah and his family were spared. A big benefit of doing God’s Work as He commands. Rewards always accompany obedience to God. … all the way to the end.”

He read I Peter 3:19-21 “This age is about over. … God tested Noah to make sure he would wait and endure until the very end.”

“Eventually, we’re going to be packing our bags–for good!”

–Bible Study critiqued by Anonymous

GF Speaking About The King of the South Again:

September 6, 2021

GF is ramping up more prophetic excitement so he doesn’t lose any more members and to draw in new ones. He’s speaking about The King of the South again. His booklet on that was first written in 1996 and revised several times, the last being 2016. He advertised it on his latest Key of David program, along with offering two other booklets: Micah and Isaiah. What most of his listeners don’t realize is he has changed many things over the years that HWA originally taught or said. For instance, HWA said there was no longer a King of the South anymore. The November 3, 2004 letter from an ex member of WCG/PCG: “HWA Said There Was No Longer a King of the South” goes into much detail about this. –Florida

How Can We Know We Are Not in the Tribulation?

September 7, 2021

How can I know we are not in the Tribulation? It seems like everything that is going on in the world right now correlates with the book of Revelation and I am beginning to get very concerned. I would like to see you post something about this. –[name withheld]

Reply: It helps to understand that God’s Plan and Satan’s Counterfeit run side by side. (We are not referring to “God’s Plan” as taught by HWA.) NOTE: We have added this question and our reply to the Q&A under “How do we know we are not in the Tribulation?“) and have linked to a few recommended articles for further study, such as “What is the Time of Jacob’s Trouble?” etc.

People Worrying About End Times:

September 8, 2021

It is always interesting to read about people’s concern about the end times. Many only appear to worry when things become difficult for the United States. Many countries have suffered under hardships for many years, decades even. But, as soon as things get tough for America, well, such a thing just can’t be allowed to continue. We must at last be heading into the time the end for sure. –B. B.

Reply: Yes, that’s true, and it especially applies to what the splinter groups are teaching at present. But people all over the world in decades past have worried about whether they were in the end times during a crisis. What is especially noticeable, however, is the Pentecostal/Charismatic sector in the world–and many of them hold to false prophets–writing about how we’re in the Tribulation right now (one site said it started in 2017), and saying Christians will have to die when they refuse the mark, and creating much fear. If somebody or some site is creating a lot of fear, I think there’s definitely something wrong. Everyone has to do their own research and pray for discernment. We only try to link to info we’ve found helpful.

NOTICE 9-11-21: In light of how some of the letters above were discussing Afghanistan, we recommend both of these excellent articles by Jonathan Brentner: What Do the Events in Afghanistan Reveal About Our World? and Finding Peace in the Midst of Lawlessness and Deceit  These articles cover many important current events. [offsite links]

Couldn’t Make It Past the 2nd or 3rd Page of MOA:

September 14, 2021

It is amazing how many times people in PCG read Mystery of the Ages. I don’t think I made it past the 2nd or 3rd page on my first attempt to read it. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Comment: have now posted an article entitled,Mystery of the Ages Idolized in Philadelphia Church of God(Brad Macdonald reveals in a sermon how much he idolizes Mystery of the Ages.) 

Is Brad Macdonald Becoming More Mentally Unstable?

September 15, 2021

I believe Brad Macdonald is becoming more mentally unstable due to immersing himself in PCG’s garbage. He no longer can think for himself because it has become a part of him. To say that he has read MOA 10 times and he’s getting ready to read it again is insane. [see our sermon transcript: MOA Idolized in PCG] I never read anything so ludicrous in all my life [his sermon]. I wouldn’t doubt that it’s true Brad stammers a lot. The guy grew up in PCG so who knows what was done to him when he was young. His father, John Macdonald, may have beaten him, forced him to obey the rules and threatened him. He is deeply mind controlled, that’s for sure. Brad is one of PCG’s lackeys, just like his father is. –[name withheld]

A Slide Into Authoritarianism Around the World:

September 18, 2021

While GF is busy creating paranoia of a “coming nuclear holocaust,” and “God is “cursing America,” but members will be “fleeing to a place of safety,” our rights and freedoms are being stripped away almost daily. When people thought things were going to “return to normal,” instead, all around the world, we can see a slide into authoritarianism, an authoritarian society. This should be alarming. We are coming closer to the Great Reset, the New World Order, one world government, Agenda 30, the Great Tribulation, whatever you want to call it. We who are Christians need to be looking more and more toward the Pretribulation Rapture (not any so-called “place of safety”) Our refuge and hope should be in Christ right now.  –T. S.

Comment: Refer to December 4, 2020 letter: “Herbert Armstrong and the New World Order” especially the comment.

Epitome of Evil:

September 19, 2021

I have lost so many friends as well as family to the different splinters. It’s seems almost impossible for those who go in them to come out. My parents have recently left the PCG. They were severely mistreated, used and abused. GF, SF and all the upper echelon are in my opinion the epitome of evil. –Impacted by PCG

Comment: Read excellent article by former member: What Does It Really Mean to Prove All Things”?

PCG’s Opening Night Message at the FOT:

September 21, 2021

My mate told me that Andrew Locher gave the message on the opening night of the Feast of Tabernacles and it was entitled “Musterion” which means mystery. It was about “the mysteries of God. It was Aaron Hudson who gave the Opening Night Message on video and that was about “Our Incredible Human Potential.” (not sure of the title) So it looks like it was probably an identical message to what HWA taught in his book by the same title (found online) and how we will rule our own planets someday. As mentioned on your site, HWA copied this doctrine from the Mormons. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Why Didn’t GF Give the Opening Night Message?

September 21, 2021

Andrew Locher (as you already have posted) gave the “Opening Night Message” in Edmond, which is to be played on the first day of the FOT, but they also have a video posted from Aaron Hudson as an “Opening Night Message” message. Big question is: Why isn’t the “Opening Night Message” given by Gerald Flurry? It has always been done by him. Since they have had the technology, he has sent out a prerecorded opening night video. Interesting! –Anonymous

GF’s Plain Crazy Statements:

September 22, 2021

I got a hold of this. Passing on to you since you always like news that shows what G. Flurry is saying. It also could be helpful for those searching for info on PCG. This is from his August 13 Co-Worker Letter. There are several ridiculous, all or nothing, and just plain crazy, statements that you will notice in here:

“Many people are concerned and say that America is moving toward Marxism. In reality it’s much worse than that. We’re not being led by Marxists. We are being led by the devil who has been cast down and is full of his worst wrath. That is the truth of the Bible, but people don’t know their Bibles.” … It is crucial that God’s work today exposes the devil. If we don’t, who else will? Satan is always trying to blot out the family of God and our potential to be born into that family. This God family message must be paramount in our lives We must deliver this message. If we don’t, people will not even know what is happening.”


Comment: Please note that this writer was not saying that “America moving toward Marxism” was crazy. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have posted the September 18, 2021 letter “A Slide Into Authoritarianism Around the World.” It is the other things GF said that are not true, especially doctrinally, his over emphasis on blaming the Devil for everything, and his all or nothing statements in thinking he is the only one doing a work for God.

The Heretical Doctrines in PCG Cannot Save Anyone:

September 23, 2021

PCG teaches heretical doctrines that cannot save anyone. For instance:

They do not believe that Christ was the eternal son of God. They call Him the “Word” that became God’s son when he came to Earth. They do not say that He was fully God and fully man while on this Earth. They may call Him “the divine Son of the living God” in their “Summary of the Main Doctrines of the Philadelphia Church of God,” but they omit that He was God in human flesh.

They say that Christ rose from the dead after His body “reposed” in the grave; I.e., rested, slept, and that this made immortality possible for men.

PCG’s doctrinal statement (posted online) is filled with heresies and false doctrines on practically every line. It is ironic that they would say “We believe all teachings contrary to the Holy Bible are false” when that is exactly what they are teaching! These heretical doctrines, which are very similar to Jehovah’s Witnesses, cannot save anyone.

While Herbert Armstrong was a false prophet, taught many false doctrines, and was a liar, he did, in a September 1958 Plain Truth article, “Is Jesus God?” (Volume XXIII, Number 9) say that Jesus was God and that Jesus was also human. (p. 7) Reading this very old black and white Plain Truth article one can see how much Herbert Armstrong veered away from some of his original teachings.

I hope my letter will be one more to warn others about the Philadelphia Church of God and inform them of exactly what this cult is teaching. I would also like to see you update your article, “What is the Spiritual Status of People in the HWA Groups?

Thank you for your informative website. –J. M.

Comment. We have updated the article. One book we recommend reading is: The Eternal Sonship of Christ (PDF).

Andrew Locher’s Follow-Up Letter to PCG Inquiries:

September 24, 2021

To add something to the above letter, Andrew Locher in his “Follow-Up Letter” (found in Letter That is Sent to All Philadelphia Church of God Inquirers) that he sends out to those who are surprised at all the literature they must read in order to become a member of PCG, says: “We believe and follow Biblical teachings that run contrary to some common Christian teachings/doctrines.” The footnote #7 on that page shows that it is not some Biblical teachings, but almost all of them.. –Impacted by loved one in PCG.

Was “America Moving Toward Marxism” a Plain Crazy Statement?

September 25, 2021

I was disappointed by the anonymous writer’s disbelief that GF’s comments on “America is moving toward Marxism” were “plain crazy.” [See 9-22 letter above] As a former PCG member who was kicked out over Bible doctrinal issues, I must say that their news department and political insight are chillingly factual.

I have read Mark Levin’s bestseller American Marxism, and I have to tell you, brothers, our nation and our religious freedoms are in jeopardy.

GF knows a plethora of obscure prophetic scriptures and believes God gives him “special understanding” of their modern interpretations. PCG members can never challenge his discernment. Given the recent global political upheaval, PCG has accelerated the issuance of false prophecies believing that GF is “God’s prophet.” GF admitted that some will label him a false prophet because of his failed prophecy that Donald Trump would remain as president (Deuteronomy 18:22). So, will he stop guessing? I don’t think so.

So, although PCG news reports are more revealing than fake network media, don’t trust their prophecies. And remember that politics are not the gospel message. Attend a church that teaches following Jesus Christ. –M. P. (Ex-PCG)

Reply: I went back and read it over again. The person who wrote the letter doesn’t believe that the comment about “America is moving toward Marxism” was a crazy statement. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have posted the September 18, 2021 letter “A Slide Into Authoritarianism Around the World.” …

I have no argument with what you are saying about America and I’m sure the book you read is good. There are many other Christian ministries and conservative radio show hosts who are alarmed about America’s direction and who have been speaking out and warning for many years. We in ESN do not listen to fake news outlets, nor do we recommend them.

I have added a comment underneath that letter to clarify that the author of the letter didn’t think “America moving toward Marxism” was what was crazy.

Thanks for writing.

Marxism and Communism:

September 28, 2021

I wrote the July 24 letter “Free Speech Being Censored on Social Media” where I talked about how we are being censored for “misinformation” and I recommended the National Crawford Roundtable (NCR) podcast. In light of the letter “America Moving Toward Marxism” [See September 25], I happened to listen to the latest NCR “Episode 110: “Critical Race Theory and How It is Being Taught” and the subject of Communism was brought  up. I am aware that the concept of Communism relies mostly on the beliefs and opinions of Karl Marx and Marxism helps introduce Communism.

There are a lot of good shows on the NCR; e.g., Episode 107: “Updates on Afghanistan and Covid Vaccinations” and Episode 109: “Covid-19 Vaccination Battleground.” This doesn’t mean that I agree with every last thing they talk about, but, as I mentioned before, this podcast has accurate information that is superior to listening to SF’s Trumpet Daily and is for logical thinkers. –A. R.

Comment: It is superior to the Trumpet Daily and we have listed them again on What’s New under More Extra Interest. Our description of National Crawford Rounding is: Discerning podcast Episodes with logical thinking. An honest review of what’s happening in our world; includes current events, hard news, cultural ideas and more. No left wing agenda. New discussions weekly. [scroll down when page opens].

Feast of Tabernacles Sermons that Members Heard:

September 29, 2021

Here is what was passed on to me: (Note: These were given in Edmond, OK.)

On the first day of the FOT (9-21) in the AM, Gerald Flurry gave the sermon, “The Key of David Vision, Pt. 1” and it was 1 hour and 35 minutes long. Fred Dattolo gave the offertory (which would coerce them into giving a large offering). The afternoon sermon was by Andrew Locher and was named “Our Exodus Experience.”

On the 2nd day of the FOT (9-22) the sermonette was given by Mark Hyde and was named, “Knit to the Throne” (i.e., knit to the Throne of David). The sermon on the 2nd day was “Building Royal Godly Compassion Today” by David Weeks and I was told the beginning part covered the horrific events that occurred during the siege of Jerusalem (which would create fear and dread in members or anyone listening).

On the 3rd day of the FOT (9-23) in the AM, Gerald Flurry gave the sermon, “The Key of David Vision, Pt. 2” and it was 1 hour and 31 minutes long.

On the 4th day of the FOT (September 24) the sermonette was “Emotional Maturity & the World Tomorrow by Sam Baxter. The sermon was “The Ultimate Change” by Fred Dattolo. In the evening, they watched the “Behind the Work” film.

On the 5th day of the FOT (September 25) in the AM, the sermonette was “Why the Blessing of Little Children” by David Weeks. The sermon was “Glorious Fruit from Implementing the Fifth Commandment by Mark Hyde. The afternoon sermonette was “The way to Peace” by Carrol Scott. The sermon was “Godly Goals for One and All” by Wayne Turgeon.

On the 6th day of the FOT (September 26) the sermonette was “Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will Be Done” by Sam Baxter. The sermon was “Renew Your Personal Dedication” by David Weeks.

On the 7th day of the FOT (September 27) the sermonette was “Our Living Hope” by Carrol Scott. The sermon was “Early Edition of Tomorrow’s News” by Fred Dattolo.

On the 8th day, the Last Great Day (LGD) (September 28) in the AM the sermon was “Deepen our GFV” by Wayne Turgeon. (GFV=God Family Vision) Wayne Turgeon gave the offertory. The PM sermonette was “The Beginning” by Mark Hyde. The PM sermon was “The Key of David Vision, Pt. 3,” by Gerald  Flurry. It was 1 hour and 18 minutes long. (This sermon was first recorded in Phoenix, AZ on 9-25-21 –Anonymous

Would Rather Hang Myself From a Noose:

September 29, 2021

Just reading about the length of Gerald Flurry’s sermons at the FOT. I’d rather put a noose on the ceiling of “the house” and hang myself from it than listen to that garbage from GF for an hour and a half!! –Impacted by loved one in PCG

GF Won’t Shut Up:

September 29, 2021

About the person who would rather hang themselves with a noose than listen to GF’s sermons. Completely understood. When my mate starts listening to GF, I can hear his voice belting through my house even when I’m two rooms away. He just won’t shut up but keeps on babbling. I just wish the PCG’rs would let the real God truly into their hearts and souls.  –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Sibling Didn’t Want to Come Home From the Feast:

September 29, 2021

The Feast is now over with for another year and frankly I’m glad. My younger sibling, who was mind-controlled to the max, didn’t want to come home. I know this “cloud nine” feeling will wear off. I experienced all of it while I was in WCG.

From what was related about the “Behind the Work” film, GF is spending millions to get his message out. It’s hard to believe how fat this cult has become and how much damage they have done. I look forward to the day when they fall apart or are judged by Jesus Christ at His return. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Comment: It is good to read: Why We Thought We Had Such a Wonderful Time at the Feast.

Trumpet Daily a Mixture of Truth and Lies:

September 30, 2021

The Trumpet Daily has been mentioned on here several times. I don’t even bother listening to it anymore as it’s a waste of time. It only takes reading the description of the shows to tell me it is a mixture of truth and lies. The most damaging lies are what are being taught within the walls of their church. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Any Information About What PCG Talked About at the Feast?

October 2, 2021

Do you have any information about what PCG talked about at the FOT this year? Never being a member, I’ve only heard bits and pieces. I did hear that there were 20 hours of messages. That’s a lot to junk to brainwash the members with. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Comment: Read notes sent from anonymous source: What Were Members Told at the Feast? (Comments by ESN)

GF Declining Cognitively?

October 5, 2021

GF was struggling a lot for his words during his LGD sermon. I wonder if he is declining cognitively? –Anonymous

Your Article About the FOT Sermons Was Amazing!

October 6, 2021

I just now read your opening paragraph, the opening night, and conclusion of What Were Members Told at the Feast? Amazing work!!! I will read the rest tonight. I would like nothing more than to get all of them to see the truth. –[name withheld]

Signs of the New World Order Are Rising:

October 6, 2021

I’m concerned that the Orwellian tactics being instigated in Australia right now are going to be coming to America. People are protesting in the streets there in spite of being beaten and having rubber bullets shot at them. This tyrannical grip is increasing on a global scale while the mass media continues manipulating the masses on a daily basis with false and withheld information. Whenever I’ve attempted to explain to others what is happening, it is like talking to a brick wall. We don’t need the sociopathic Flurries to “decipher” the news for us. Signs of the New World Order are rising all around us, and these forces are totally anti-God. –T. S.

What Ministers Said Members Must Do After the Feast:

October 8, 2021

Since members have returned from the Feast, the ministers are giving the same ol, same ol, sermons/sermonettes they give every year after the Feast; i.e., “review your notes”; “apply what you’ve learned”; “strengthen your resolve”; “hold fast to it”; “think like God”; “look forward to the Spring holy days”; ad nauseum. After reading the notes and comments which were only a taste of what they listened to for 20 hours at the Feast, it’s got to be exhausting to be told what else to do. I feel for the children who had to sit through all those “lectures”–opening night, offering appeals, and GF going on and on and on–unless they were in lockdown at home, and who knows, maybe even then these children were forced to sit and “pay attention.” Instead of members being able to make their own choice to read the Bible through, they must follow what Brad Macdonald has instructed, and that is to read Mystery of the Ages over and over. Since it is the Holy Spirit who opens our minds to understand the Bible, I do not believe for one minute that these so-called “ministers” even have the Holy Spirit, not only because of all the heresies they teach and the twisting of the Word, but because of their abuse and disdain for the members and their alienated families. I won’t even go into how they coerce members to not only give them “large offerings” but to also “leave their estates to them.” I can’t think of anything more morally reprehensible. –L. D.

Comment: Also read: When We Attended the Feast (What did they do to our minds?)

Didn’t Think PCG Was Harmful Until I Lost My Wife & Son:

October 8, 2021

If anyone’s mate starts watching the Key of David or reading the Trumpet magazine, take them online and make them read all the info on this modern day cult. Satan is the head of this “Church” and he wants to destroy them and ruin peoples lives. I lost my wife and son after they went to this Feast because I didn’t think it was harmful, until it was too late. –Impacted by PCG

FOT Messages Online Were Available Worldwide:

October 13, 2021

The Feast sermons, sermonettes, and offertories in What Were Members Told at the Feast? were available for any PCG member worldwide who stayed home or were in lockdown. However, if the messages were marked with “must be played,” then those had to be played at every Feast site (which are always Gerald Flurry’s sermons, Opening Night Video, Behind the Work Film, and occasionally another minister). They would have been used at smaller feast sites also for those who either didn’t have a minister, or not enough ministers. –Ex PCG member

Elaborating More on FOT Messages Worldwide:

October 13, 2021

GF’s “Key of David Vision Pt. 3” sermon was recorded in Phoenix, AZ on 9-25, Sabbath, but was played in all churches on the Last Great Day. He talked so long because he wanted to consume the members’ day. The “20 hours of messages” mentioned were in Edmond, OK, but probably the same worldwide. There were different speakers and different messages at the different sites unless a sermon was to be played in all churches. Some sermons/sermonettes were in Spanish, some in French. They have people translate them, and they don’t name who the translation is by. Two ministers at HQ that do translate are Carlos Heyer and Daryl Hope. The theme was [in so many words] the same worldwide, “God’s ultimate plan to become God in the God Family.” –[name withheld]

Matchmaking Activities For Singles In PCG:

October 17, 2021

[International announcements sent by PCG source.]

PCG controls the singles’ dating life to a T, just as was done in WCG. This is for the purpose of controlling who they should and shouldn’t marry.

Therefore, it was recently announced that a “Singles Winter Weekend” is back and will be held in Edmond from December 29 to January 2. Notice how exciting they make it out to be: lots of fellowship, family building activities, archery, axe throwing (axe throwing?), indoor sky diving, outdoor hockey, rock climbing, recreational shooting, progressive dinner and a formal dinner dance. The cost is between $90 and $125 per person, depending on how long you stay.That’s pretty expensive, except for the elite.

Another activity coming up is what they call a “Turn About Weekend” for the ladies of the PCG from October 22 to October 24. The single ladies will “have the opportunity” to ask men on dates. They didn’t say if this is by phone or if they will go right up to the man and ask them.

All this was called an “exciting opportunity” and they were implored not to let time slip away. I wonder how many are cringing about this, especially those ladies that don’t feel good-looking, or rich enough, or are dreading to be “sized up.” What if they can’t afford a fancy dress? What about the older “old maids” or bachelors that do not want to get married? The announcement sounded like all singles should be joining in on these activities and enjoying it.

After reading The Sad Singles Scene, I can’t help but wonder if what is going on with this matchmaking in PCG is very similar to what went on in WCG? I also have heard in the past about more than one matchmaking activity going on in PCG. –announcements critiqued by L. S.

SF and His Trumpet Daily Was Full of Loud Excitement:

October 19, 2021

A friend of mine suggested I listen to two Trumpet Daily programs and give my opinion of Stephen Flurry. The first was #1614 (October 7) and the second was #1620 (October 15). Both were about the vaccines. I listened to the audio from KPCG.fm.

At the beginning you hear the announcer’s deep and foreboding voice, followed by HWA booming out about “today’s news, blah, blah, blah,” then GF coming in with his words of “you must prophecy again!” It’s so asinine and wears on your nerves.

#1614 (October 7): SF began by acting extremely excited and loud in this one. I don’t think I ever recall him acting this awful. I suggest he listen to a recording of himself giving these “news analysis” shows, since it’s apparent he knows nothing about how to be a proper news commentator, only a fired up Spokesman Club speaker. [Refer to June 11, 2020 letter: “Stephen Flurry’s Voice Bombards Your Senses.”] He imitated Biden whispering “get vaccinated.” I got the impression that much in the news is funny to him. I couldn’t stomach most of this one so I deliberately skimmed through it. At the end, he started talking about the 100 year period (LGD) and his voice dropped considerably lower. Then when he insisted how one must read and re-read certain PCG booklets, mind control consisting of repetition came to mind.

#1620 (October 15): The beginning of this was supposed to be comical when the show covered how “Pfizer’s senior director of Worldwide Research, Vanessa Gelman, ran for cover” to her house and slammed the door when “confronted and questioned by Project Veritas about using fetal cell tissue in the vaccine.” SF laughed about all of it. [Note: Read Jon Rappoport’s horrifying but excellent articles from No More Fake News: Was COVID vaccine fetal tissue obtained by the murder of an infant? and his follow up article the next day which asks if God wants the killing of a live infant for the purposes of medical research? (Update: There are now more articles on this topic by Jon linked from our What’s New page under October) Would SF think that, too, was funny?] As mentioned before, SF could be added to a list of the least empathic ministers in PCG. [Refer to: 6th paragraph in 6-20-21 letter: Bible Study by Stephen Flurry on “Be Not Afraid” where he laughs about people taking their last gasp on a ventilator.]

SF’s shows are truth mixed with lies, gleaned from alternative news sources, with the bait and hook thrown in at the end. He really needs to tone it down on these shows–which I’m sure he won’t. The other problem is his boasting that the Trumpet magazine was the first to know about these topics and the only one with a “deeper understanding of the Bible,” which is a lie. According to him, the only way out of all these problems is the PCG booklets that his listeners need to read. This time it was “The Plain Truth About Healing” by HWA. I wonder how many people who listen to him realize that there is a known cult behind all of it that is only interested in taking their money?

It was hard to focus on much of what he was saying due to his loud, excited, energetic voice. –critique by AJW

SF is Covering For an Evil Cult:

October 20, 2021

SF is more than crazy-acting, he’s covering for a cult filled with demons. When I was a member, we were constantly told that Satan was “out there” in the world, on dissident websites, etc., but unbeknownst to us, all the time he was right there inside the “church.” Behind PCG’s beautiful curtain for the King of David, Trumpet Daily, Philadelphia Trumpet, etc., lies hidden an evil cult that has and will harm and destroy families. We need to continue to expose them! –[name withheld]

Russ Dizdar, Faithful Servant of God Who Exposed Spiritual Darkness, Has Passed Away:

October 20, 2021

I am really saddened at the passing of Russ Dizdar. I listened to much of his podcast. His ministry of deliverance offered a lot of hope. In fact, I made donations to his ministry because I strongly agreed with it. A good minister and faithful servant of God has passed on. –Florida

Reply: We just received the news yesterday of his passing. His death was sudden and unexpected. The real cause is still unknown. We are compiling links with info about him now. Those interested in end times and spiritual warfare will be fascinated with his ministry and what he has to say. Videos by Russ Dizdar are on Bitcute and youtube.

This is What Comes Next – The Black Awakening by Russ Dizdar (11 min video) (posted on YouTube 9-13-21)

Tribute to Russ Dizdar on The Hagmann Report (11 min video) (posted on  Rumble 10-18-21)

Russ Dizdar Came Out of Occultism / I Believe Demons Are in the Midst of PCG:

October 21, 2021

Russ Dizdar came out of occultism and previously lived a very sinful lifestyle. His testimony of conversion to Jesus Christ and how his life changed radically is amazing. In his lifetime he helped many victims of SRA. It’s a shame that lies have been spread about him on the Internet. He has said that the proof of what he did is talking to the victims. I heard about SRA going on in some WCG churches in Canada in years past and I even talked to a former member from Canada who was a victim. Whether anything like this is extant in PCG, or any occult activities, or how much, I have no proof because evil always hides until exposed. Since I believe demons are in the midst of PCG, I could consider it. Their books, one being Mystery of the Ages, are definitely demonic writings. –[name withheld]

Reply: Russ did so much to help others. But look at GF. How many people has he truly helped? Or rather, how many lives has he wrecked? And look at GF receiving “new revelations” which contradict Scripture. Who or what is putting these “new revelations” in his head?

Question About Halloween:

October 21, 2021

Halloween is fast approaching. Do you have anything on your site that covers it? –F. W.

Reply: Go to: Should we observe “pagan” holidays? (Scroll down a little. This has been updated about Halloween. A new link was also added on 10-24-21 with a link to an interview with Russ Dizdar on Halloween.) UPDATE: National Crawford Roundtable Podcast (Scroll down when page opens.) Episode 115 is “How Should Christians Treat Halloween?” (Includes personal stories) [offsite link]

Membership Total Worldwide:

October 22, 2021

Here is a quote from the PCG’s Feast “professional” Jason Cocomise: (The quote is from LinkedIn in case anyone wants to verify it.)

“Our recent September fall regional conferences were a great success with increased attendance over fall 2020 (and fall 2020 was an increase over fall 2019) – between our 6 US locations in 2021 we had 2,500+ attendees, 1,000+ peak rooms and 10,000+ room nights! Thanks to all of our great host venues and partnering CVB’s! We are looking forward to fall 2022! #meetingsmeanbusiness”

If you add approximately 300 for Canada, 350 for the Philippines, 200 for Australasia, and maybe 400 for the rest of the world, you have a total of 4300 people. (And those are generous estimates). Not baptised people! This number includes babies, and even non member spouses who attend the FOT.

My point in sharing this information is to raise awareness about how cults spend a lot of money on things like their HQ buildings and concert series and planes etc. Their image. To give the illusion that they are big and impactful. I can guarantee the the vast majority of the membership has no idea that there are not even 5000 total people world wide!

Also, for those members who are reading this. Do you really think you are going to ever reach 10,000 members? And by members, according to Gerald Flurry, this means they have to be baptised. So take that 4300 and pretty much cut it in half. And this all has to happen in a few years, as you believe that Donald Trump is going to rise up and kick you out of this country. [Read: January 18, 2020 letter and comments: Flurry Predicted Trump Will Kick PCG Members out of the United States] Oh, not to mention in this short time Europe has to unite and the EU has to shrink down to 10 and the “strong man” has to rise, etc.

Logic and critical thinking is non existent in the world of Armstrongism. –[name withheld]

Should We Continue to Listen to SF’s Fear-Drenched Sermons?

October 23, 2021

I had a sermon passed on to me that SF recently gave entitled “The Tremendous Power of Satan.” Whether he gave this because it was close to Halloween, and to create some fear, I do not know. But it is almost becoming a waste of time to critique any PCG sermons and I may not do it anymore (unless GF says something outrageous). I will mention a few of the things he said and then give hope at the end.

He said on the weekends he’s been “trying to get through a few chapters of Mystery of the Ages.” As Brad Macdonald said not long ago, this is the book members should read over and over. I beg to differ, MOA is one of the books PCGers, ex-PCGers, ex-WCGers, offshoot members, ones with a loved one in PCG, and others, need to renounce (see Prayers for Freedom From Spiritual Strongholds) and then to cast it into the fire and burn it.

“Without God’s power, we are no match for the Devil.” Words that certainly don’t give peace. I find that John in I john 4:4, says. “greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.” .

He talked about Satan wanting to “blot out God’s Work; to blot out God’s truth; to blot out God’s people.” There was a focus on death and hating.  Satan “hates God’s servants; he hates God’s family; he hates God’s little infants.”

He said Christ was born to rule, to replace Satan on the throne. But John says in I John 4:14, “And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world” and I John 3:8 “…For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.” He talked about how “the Devil is running the show” and “do we understand the power Satan has?” and “we are his number one target.”

What happened to all the times God has told us, “I will help thee,” “God will help me“? What about the many verses that say, “Fear not” and “Be not afraid“? You can get a Bible concordance and look these (and similar ones) up. Set aside (or get rid of) any and all PCG literature when you read your Bible. Does fear have any place in a sermon that should be giving hope and peace? I found no hope or lasting peace in this sermon.

He emphasized the strength and power of the Devil and how he “tried to take God off His throne twice” and the planets that Satan and his demons destroyed. “If he could do that (to the Universe) think what he could do to you (and the church) if you let your guard down?

To enforce obedience to the “PCG government of God” he said: “It’s a slippery slope to go down, to begin to question God, to begin to criticize God, to begin feeling like you’re being mistreated, like it’s unfair, like it’s a grave injustice… Satan preys on those kinds of attitudes, those kinds of moods”  and “Satan pumps us full of attitudes of envy, resentment, impatience, anger, bitterness”; he is “working behind the scenes.”

Much of the time he talked in a lackadaisical manner; never giving examples from his own life or talking about himself, to help others see he is human, since he, along with other top ministers, want to appear high and lofty above the members.

At the end he brought in about the armor of God in Ephesians 6:10 but did not elaborate on how to use it, as he knows nothing about this.

Instead of telling them to focus on Christ and how He is the one to defeat Satan and his evil, the emphasis was on fearing Satan’s power (unless, as he brought in at the end) they have the “tremendous power of their Creator God.”

For those who are genuinely interested, and want more than SF’s lackadaisical, unhelpful, fear-drenched, uninspired, works-based sermons, there is much better teaching available regarding Satan and demons (and don’t forget there are demons within PCG as has been brought out in the letters) by checking out Russ Dizdar’s teaching videos on spiritual warfare and evil spirits. These are not fearful messages but strengthening. One to start with could be: Deliverance from Dark Spirits (it shows the title as “How to Get Rid of Evil Spirits” but the former is correct). Below the title, it gives a thorough description of Russ and his ministry.

The reason I mention this is that I know there are those who are seeking to move away from SF, GF, et al. sermons that can weigh them down with no hope, Russ’s videos are helpful, very absorbing, and such a difference from PCG’s. Just to mention two more from Russ, he has a series on Spiritual Warfare (part 1-4). The other is Spiritual Warfare, a 22 part training course, basic and advanced. It is such a loss that Russ has passed on, but at least his teachings remain online for others to benefit from.

If anyone is only looking only for teaching right now on law, grace and the New Covenant, Bob George Ministries is one I recommend. There is so much helpful material out there that would be very worthwhile to listen to, or read, than PCG sermons. Just don’t be afraid to check things out for yourself and then make your own decision. May God bless you. –L. S.

Demons and David Pack:

October 24, 2021

[NOTE: This letter has been posted on the WCG & Offshoots letters where it belongs. We only mention it here because this topic about demons was previously covered above.]

Any Record of GF Confessing the Lord Jesus as His Lord and Savior?

October 25, 2021

Has GF ever confessed the Lord Jesus Christ as His Lord and Savior? I find no record of it on his site. And even though I searched, I found no record on how to obtain salvation either. I love this letter: “What the Real Truth Is”  –A. R.

Comment: We can’t find any record of it either. That’s a really good letter.

Roger Brandon’s Article to Impressionable Youth:

October 25, 2021

Roger Brandon wrote an article in 2017 to the impressionable youth and teens in PCG entitled, “Sanctified, Preserved and Called.” I found it disgusting.

He started out by making them feel special: “God has a special interest in you compared to other teenagers in the world.” He said they  (the teens in PCG) are “not cut off from God [all caps) like other children.”

Then he stirred their excitement by telling several miracles that happened at Summer Camp (SEP) in WCG. One was about girls in a tent being spared from 150 pound rec packs up in the trees, 30 feet above them, that came crashing down in a huge windstorm,  narrowly missing them.

Some stories sounded like they were made up, or at  least far fetched, especially the one about the bear tearing apart thick canvas military bags outside their tents one night and how they scared it off by banging on pots. It makes you wonder what in the world they were doing having kids camp out in such dangerous wilderness areas.

Then there was another “crashing tree in the wind” story about a tree that nearly missed crashing down on their canoes tied by the lake.

He said there were “many more” miracle summer camp miracles he could tell and that “God does protect his children like a loving father” …, but “You “have your part to play.” and  “You have to obey all of God’s laws” and not “behave foolishly.” “But if you are obeying God, you will be preserved.”

Of course, he wasn’t going to bring up about a male youth who was once electrocuted to death at SEP and it was all hushed up.

He ended with fear: “Satan is “hunting you!” (all caps) and “you are the target” but ” God has to preserve you until the time is right to fulfill His purpose in your life.” “Never take the special category God has placed you in for granted.”

I felt sorry for any teen in PCG reading that article. –AJW

GF Has Never Said “My Savior”:

October 26, 2021

About the letter “Any Record of GF Confessing the Lord Jesus as His Lord and Savior?” [October 25] I have never, ever heard him even refer to Jesus as “my Savior,” “my personal Savior, or even emphasize Jesus as a “loving Savior.” He considers those words too “syrupy,” and “too pietistic.” If a member questioned him on that, they would be thrown out. –Anonymous

Doctrines of Gerald Flurry Are Simply Crazy:

October 26, 2921

Many have noticed that the latest doctrines of Gerald Ray Flurry are simply crazy, or as he used to say about other topics in his sermons, “out of this world!” Early on, many of us experienced a seemingly righteous work led by GF … But as he declared numerous biblical offices through the years, the good fruits began to diminish. –W. R.

Reply: Has GF or PCG ever had any “good fruit” or a “seemingly righteous work”? GF has allowed doors to be opened in his mind (e.g; believing he found truth with his Malachi’s Message; believing he is “That Prophet”; believing God gives him “new revelation”; believing Mystery of the Ages was inspired by God; believing Herbert Armstrong was “used by God,” etc.). He has continued to open more and more doors in his mind and, as a result, he is becoming more and more deceived and influenced by demonic and evil spirits. Reading extra biblical revelation that teaches there is some other way to be saved besides trusting in Christ Jesus alone, and believing in His redeeming Blood (Ephesians 1:7), can lead one to open these doors. The tragedy is that he has, and is, deceiving countless others to go down the same path.

NOTE: Update has been added to October 21 letter above about Halloween.


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