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Focus on the Love of God Instead of Our Weaknesses:

January 2, 2021

This is the second time I write to you. The first time was in March 2020 when I sent my first testimony: “I Almost Got Sucked Into the Swirl of PCG.”

Thank you for your comforting words. They bring me back to the simplicity of the gospel.

It’s so easy to forget to keep it simple. When I ”push” myself to do things to serve God (at least I imagine to serve), I put an unnecessary load on my shoulders  and then it becomes ”religion” and it’s not very pleasant.

I forgot that Jesus wants us free, with a light burden and to give with joy, not by obligation.

It so true when you say that the sin question is over, because Jesus has already forgiven all our sins. What a relief!! To repent almost everyday (like I did sometimes) produces more fear than faith. Just reminding us of this important fact makes us focus on the love of God instead of our weaknesses.

The goal [of my testimony] is to share with others and, hopefully to help, because their testimonies helped me.

Keep up your good work. Your site is so instructive and comforting!

God bless you! –Mario [first name used with permission]

Comment: Read Mario’s 2nd testimony that he recently sent to ESN: I Was Wounded More Deeply Than I Thought. (His 2nd testimony links to his first one at the end.)

GF Moves His Focus to China:

January 5, 2021

Flurry has moved from focusing on the presidential election to China. In the February Philadelphia Trumpet he has several “Special Reports” on how the Western nations need to “Wake up” to the threat from China. The magazine cover has a terrifying picture of what I presume is the Chinese dragon.

Contrary to the abject garbage fear “That Prophet” is putting in people’s minds, China is destined to fail. Terry James (who has written on Nearing Midnight) wrote an article a couple days ago: “China Prophetically Destined to Fail.” And since there’s been talk on your site about The Great Reset, I noticed another article James wrote on, “Reset Vs. Restrainer.” I try to constantly contradict what GF is saying and I would encourage others to do the same. These are only two articles which are much better for Christians to read instead of GF’s “prophecies.”  I still maintain (as I did on December 31) that SF and GF are getting their “news” from other sources. –A. R.

GF Calls for a Churchwide Fast:

January 9, 2021

GF announced that there will be a churchwide fast on January 10 (Sunday). He read the story about Jehoshaphat and said “the battle is God’s and He will take care of it” and “God has shown He has powerfully responded when his people fast.” So he, like many charismatic “prophets” on the Internet, is still expecting God to act at the last minute with this election and a “miracle” will cause Trump to remain president. Can anything be more insane? –[name withheld]

PCG Expecting Some Kind of Miracle From God Before January 20th:

(2nd email from person above)

January 9, 2021

On SF Trumpet Daily shows (January 7 and 8) he has said the following. He called President-elect Joe Biden the “fake president”; he said there are now “two Americas and one church of God”; he read several prophetic verses in Daniel that apply to Israel and made them apply to PCG instead. He said things are going to get so bad that God “will have to intervene to protect and save His people” and “We are going to need God’s miraculous protection.” He quoted HWA as saying, “No matter what happens, God will keep His Work going forward.” He emphasized that members must remain steadfast and be bold and enthusiastic in their support for the Work.

In referring to his recent Trumpet Brief and other PCG programs, SF said, “…you know this church’s position on what will happen come January 20. ” He said “this incredible journey with President Trump is only just the beginning.” Not explaining what he meant, but this all sounded like they are expecting some kind of “miracle” from God before January 20.

I’m still waiting to see if GF admits he was wrong about Trump having a 2nd term. –[name withheld]

Comment: I doubt if he will ever admit he was wrong. Time will tell how he changes or glosses over his original prediction

PCG Fast Is to Be A Double Whammy:

January 10, 2020

I heard about this fast that PCG has called for [see January 9 letter above “GF Calls for a Churchwide Fast”]. If their members go with this fast, they should be aware that they’re also wanting to be evicted from the U. S. so that they could go to the Place of Safety (according to GF’s “prophecy”).

This is also a double whammy in that Flurry is hoping that something significant will happen either on their most honored January 16 HWA death anniversary (which is known as “National Nothing Day” read letter stating this), but PCG is also expecting something to happen on January 20–a miracle to keep Trump in office. Gerald Flurry is not so much concerned about Trump staying in office but more about proving him, Flurry, as a prophet. Failure of this prophecy to come to pass will prove Flurry once again to be a false prophet and could open the door for the exodus of people from PCG.

They will never learn nor will they wake up from this stupid stupor of Armstrong/Flurry worship that they just go along with what they’re commanded. They all have really lost their objective and critical thinking. Are they not thinking that as they go through this fast? Flurry with his minion ministers are also already planning a spin doctor on their words in the chance that President-elect Biden is sworn in. May this organization finally implode soon. –Scott

Reply: Time will tell what is going to happen. Read: “Members Will Adjust their Thinking and Go On(November 9, 2020 letter which mentions the book When Prophecies Fail) andFlurry Predicted Trump Will Kick PCG Members out of the United States(January 18, 2020 letter and the comments following that letter.)

Theme of Churchwide Fast Was “Fasting and Praying For God’s Protection”:

(Note: This letter has been shortened due to its length.)

January 13, 2021

These are some of the things recently said in a PCG sermonette given by Carlos Heyer: [emp. mine]

“Last December 5 GF declared a churchwide fast for January 10. He outlined 3 areas to focus on during this fast.” Heyer called Gerald Flurry “our Prophet or King.”

He said Brad Macdonald wrote an announcement for Europe and the UK telling who has fasted in the past; i. e., the ancient Israelites, the Jews in Ezra’s day, those in the NT, and the church under HWA. “In every instance, these fasts produced incredible fruit and the Work surged forward.”

He said the theme for this fast is “Fasting and Praying for God’s Protection.” Some scriptural references he gave were Ezra 8, Daniel 9, Isaiah 58 (mentions “true fasting vs. false fasting”), Psalms 37, and Matthew 6:16-18.

HWA “left us a legacy on how to fast, alternating one hour of study, one hour meditation, and one hour prayer, then begin the cycle again.”

GF had said: “The coronavirus is holding the Work back in many ways and we need more laborers; and we need to make sure we are overcoming Satan the Devil.

He read more from Brad Macdonald’s announcement in which he went through 3 areas/points to focus on:

(1) Fast and pray for God’s intervention in the coronavirus situation as it is holding back the Work (even tho the income has not been adversely affected).

(2) Fast and pray for more members and laborers. Overall membership has not increased.

(3) GF has said these are exciting and intense days, but they are also dangerous. The only way we can thrive and perform at the level God needs us to is if we are close to God. Examine ourselves for anything that is separating us from God. Examine your relationship with the world. Are you too close to the world? Too materialistic?

“Let’s beseech Him to further empower this great Work and to help us prepare individually and collectively for the return of Jesus Christ.”

–[name withheld]

PCG Expecting Trouble:

January 13, 2021

Looks like PCG is getting nervous about their programs possibly being banned from YouTube. SF on the latest Trumpet Daily radio show (“The Real Coup”) said they are “expecting trouble.” He said it was because “they” can’t stand the truth. The TD is now going to have their own platform.

I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a broadcast or sermon that SF, GF or his ministers have given that don’t mention Herbert Armstrong. He said HWA died on Jan 16, 1986 and then reminded everyone that this date is coming up. He said, “Think about the prophecies he [HWA] told us about.” [Note from ESN: you mean the over 200 false ones?] He also talked about how God is a miracle worker and how He has answered PCG’s prayers in the past. But, he added, it is “so easy” to forget the miracles that have backed God’s Work these past 31 years. So easy to forget about the “earth-shaking miracle in the lawsuit/the court case over the Mystery of the Ages.” This “court case miracle” continues to be a fat lie that SF and GF like to keep alive. [Read Letter to ESN: PCG Did NOT Win a Victory in the WCG vs. PCG Court Case by Attorney at Law.]

It’s also been mentioned more than once before but SF’s voice seemed very loud and very excited this time. –L. S.

UPDATE: Stephen Flurry was later kicked off YouTube.

Laodiceans Contacting PCG:

January 15, 2021

I was told that a number of members in UCG, LCG, Global (UK) and a few other splinters are showing an interest in PCG. These, as you know, would be considered “Laodiceans.” Some of them have contacted the ministers for a visit and are tithing to PCG, while still remaining in their “Laodicean” churches. –Anonymous

January 16–A Significant Happening:

January 19, 2021

On the Trumpet Radio Show for January 18, SF talked about the following which appeared to be the “significant happening” on January 16, the 35th anniversary of Herbert Armstrong’s death:

“Over the weekend you’re looking at the collapse of Germany’s government. January 16, on Saturday. This guy named Armin Laschet. He’s the new leader of Germany’s Christian Democratic Union. Voted in on January 16. Most likely the candidate running for Chancellor or the lead candidate running for Chancellor in the September elections. He’s a big fan of Charlemagne. His family has claimed he is a direct descendant of him. … This ties in with the Holy Roman Empire. And this is the history that is being resurrected. They want to rebuild and raise up the ruins of it (the Holy Roman Empire). That fact that this happened on the anniversary of Herbert Armstrong’s death could be somewhat significant. And here he is on January16, a huge fan of Charlemagne. He takes over leadership of Merkel’s party. Pretty amazing development.”


Flurry Turned Out to Be a Dreamer of Dreams:

January 21, 2021

Gerald Flurry has written emphatically, “By most appearances, Joe Biden will be America’s next President. BUT I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AT ALL I am confident Donald Trump will REMAIN President.” Furthermore, “I am certain you are about to see some of the biggest frauds exposed perhaps ever! Why? BECAUSE A BIDEN PRESIDENCY IS CONTRARY TO BIBLE PROPHECY.”

How does Gerald Flurry now defend these claims?

Gerald Flurry claims to be a prophet, but it appears that his credibility as a prophet is definitely in question.

Gerald Flurry says that Trump will REMAIN President. That means he is not talking about Trump running for President in 2024. It means that Trump will REMAIN President. If Gerry and Steve haven’t noticed yet, Biden was sworn in as the 46th President on January 20, 2021. So what now? What lunacy will we hear next come out of this false prophet’s mouth?

How does this so-called prophet explain his statement, “A BIDEN PRESIDENCY IS CONTRARY TO BIBLE PROPHECY?” Joe Biden is now the President. I wonder what Gerry has to say about this?

Stephen Flurry quotes from the Bible [on his January 20 Trumpet Daily Radio] the stories of the 12 year old girl and Lazarus being raised from the dead as examples of God delaying miracles, or perhaps demonstrating that God can bring dead situations back to life. Yes, we do believe in God’s miracles, however no massive frauds have been exposed as Gerry has claimed would happen. Do the Flurrys really think that God is going to overturn this election outcome and reinstate Donald Trump as President? ABSURD!!

There’s really no way out of this situation for the Flurry false prophets are there. A hole has been dug so deep and I wonder how Gerry is going to get out of it?

What a damn shame it is that these false prophets give false hope to their naive members via their false prophecies. Then they take the members’ tithes and offerings so they can live a high quality of life. They are pathetic. This may sound harsh but all I have to say in conclusion is Deuteronomy 13:5. It’s what God commands. –M. G.

Alex Harrison Destroyed Families and Spiritual Lives:

January 23, 2021

First, Stephen Flurry on his radio broadcast talks about a Newsmax campaign where his father promoted an article on how Donald Trump would remain President. Apparently, there was someone else talking about Trump remaining President also. You can see how SF is annoyed that someone else would dare steal his dad’s thunder. Not to worry, nothing eventuated anyway. SF is clearly upset that his father’s work is not mentioned. Then he says something about the Trumpet website’s track record. What a joke! Track record? Which one? The one of false prophecies?

Finally, regarding the death of Alex Harrison [died November 22, 2020]. SF talks about Harrison and how great a man he was. He says that sadly a lot of the people that were in the PCG under Harrison are no longer with us. That’s because Harrison booted them out like Diotrephes did back in the day as it says in 3 John 9-11. Good ol’ Alex has been with the Flurry’s from almost day one, all the way through. Yes, enjoying the high life at the expense of the brethren who got shafted by him. SF says, “Every time our paths crossed, if I was at HQ and Alex would visit from overseas, it seems like my office was one of the first stops along the way. He’d come in to say ‘hi.'” I can just imagine the two of these power hungry freaks giving each other good ol’ pats on the back. SF calls him “a dear friend of mine.” I call him a wolf in sheep’s clothing. SF says, “Alex had a profound impact on God’s people.” He sure did–destroying families and destroying spiritual lives. Let me tell all who read this. Alex Harrison was nothing but scum and anyone who thought highly of him makes them the same–scum. –Former PCG member

PCG Palms Their False Prophecies off on God:

January 23, 2020

How convenient it is for Stephen Flurry to now come out and say, “Well, it’s not a man’s prophecy, it’s God’s prophecy.” [Read our article: How Gerald Flurry’s Failed Trump Prophecy Was Shifted to “God’s Prophecy”] in defense of his father’s claim that 2 Kings 14:26-27 related to President Donald Trump. Don’t these imbeciles realize that if it wasn’t for Gerald Flurry spewing out this nonsense of Trump being “King Jeroboam,” nobody else would have? Thanks to Gerald Flurry writing and preaching and campaigning this crap on Newsmax, there were other imbeciles who believed it and still do.

Just listen to some of the comments coming through to the Daily Trumpet Radio which, of course, are only positive ones, and you will hear the naive and gullible still believing and hoping that all the false prophecies of GF will still come to pass. But, oh no, they’re no longer GF’s prophecies but God’s. I thought the commandment was, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” Yet, these evil people now want to palm their false prophecies off on God. How typical. They simply can’t admit they are wrong can they? After all, even their very own pioneer HWA said that the hardest thing for anyone to do is to admit they are wrong. I guess they really are following in his footsteps –“1975 in Prophecy” (remember that?).

God help those people who can’t think for themselves and continue to hold on to these lies. “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.” These words are usually credited to the acclaimed genius Albert Einstein. I think it’s time for members to wake up and perhaps start listening to a genius rather than a false prophet. –Former PCG member

Gerald Flurry Kicking the Trump/Jeroboam Can Down the Road:

January 23, 2021

Have you noticed the difference in GF’s writing style from the past–say 20 yrs ago–and today? I happened to come across his November 2001 Trumpet Editorial (“Where Are We Now in Prophecy?) and then looked at the recent February 2021 issue of the Philadelphia Trumpet.  In the first one he’s using many fear and dread adjectives to describe what’s coming on America and Britain, the same as HWA was prone to do. However, in his recent February article, it’s almost like it’s written by someone else. I have to wonder if someone is ghost writing for him?

But here’s the thing. In this February 2021 issue he is still keeping Trump in the picture as the one who will “save America.” I am quoting: (emp. mine)

“The name of Israel is about to be blotted out. God Himself intervenes and saves Israel temporarily. How? By the hand of an end-time Jeroboam!” (2 Kings 14:27)

“Today, Donald Trump plays the role of an end-time Jeroboam. …. In Amos 7:8, God reveals why He saves America through Jeroboam.”

In the January 21, 2021 Trumpet Brief  SF said: (all emp. mine)

“Please read my father’s article ‘Barack Obama in Bible Prophecy.’  … It also shows that God is still going to save the nation through President Trump, an end-time type of King Jeroboam II, so that people have one last chance to repent. But things might get a lot worse before they get better.”

In the January 20, 2021 Trumpet “Donald Trump, Bible Prophecy and Faith” SF said: (emp mine)

We have not seen the last of Donald Trump. How do we know this? Because God’s prophecies in Amos 7, 2 Kings 14, Daniel 8 and Revelation 12 have not been entirely fulfilled!

I had to read that over more than once to make sure I was seeing it right. This was written after the recent inauguration. No wonder members are still hanging on and not leaving. They want to see what else is going to happen since GF is kicking the Trump/Jeroboam can down the road. Has GF lost his senses? It’s one more way to keep from admitting he was wrong. –L. S.

HQs Trying Hard to Minimize the Damage of GF’s False Prophecy:

January 24, 2021

PCG is good at psychological and spiritual manipulation and right now they are doubling down and pressuring members to stay. A PCG contact told me that HQs is trying hard to minimize the damage of GF’s false prophecy about Trump. This includes saying that Donald Trump is the “real president” and Joe Biden is the “fake president” and God recognizes Donald Trump–as if to say the prophecy is still true!

My gut feeling is that the members are still trying to process all of this. They know in their heart of hearts that this is all B.S., at least the more discerning ones do. –Anonymous

Comment: Our article: Gerald Flurry and His False Trump Prophecies was updated under “Why Didn’t More Leave?”

UPDATE: Read our new article: Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump (GF’s false prophecy is now a “mistake” and God speaks in a “coded” way)

More on Laodiceans Contacting PCG:

January 26, 2021

I wrote you January 15 about Laodiceans Contacting PCG. I am sending you the transcript that I received from a trusted source in PCG about PCG seeing themselves in Isaiah 22 and also covers how the Laodiceans have contacted PCG. –Anonymous

Comment by  ESN: This has been posted with the title of: Is Isaiah 22 a Chronology of the Philadelphia Church of God?

Here We Go Again–Gerald Flurry Made a “Mistake”:

January 27, 2021

I just read the latest article: Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump. It was brilliant.

Here we go again. Stephen Flurry (SF) coming to the defense of his father on the January 26 Trumpet Daily Radio (“Make America California”). This time there is an acknowledgment of a “mistake” having been made. I nearly fell over when I heard that! Yes, an acknowledgment of a mistake made by Gerald Flurry (GF) regarding the timing of another term of presidency for Donald Trump.

Quoting SF, “My father had a Trumpet Brief yesterday” [read above article by ESN]. (SF now quotes GF) “Why I still believe Donald Trump is coming back.” (SF continues) “He went through again, these prophecies in Amos 7 / 2 Kings 14, things that you’re very familiar with. He talked about, ‘Look, okay, so I made a mistake with the timing back in that article from two months ago, but let’s let this play out. Let’s see, if you wanna focus in on the word REMAIN (I think we all should. After all, we hold politicians to account–why not ‘so called’ prophets?), okay, but let’s see how this plays out over the long haul. And let’s see how Amos 7 is fulfilled over the long haul.’ (So now it’s THE LONG HAUL–how convenient! Even a layperson could predict that Donald Trump could make a run for president in 2024. NOTHING PROPHETIC ABOUT THAT!) SF continues: “And furthermore, how does God view this? What is God’s view of what happened on November 3? What is God’s view?” (So far, GF has been wrong concerning Donald Trump. Shouldn’t he tread carefully to not be presumptuous in trying to speak for God, because God will do things His own way–He’s full of surprises. Why should GF trip all over HIS OWN PROPHECIES and cause others to trip up also by listening to him? It’s the blind leading the blind, isn’t it?)

SF says, “I’ve touched on this yesterday with respect to fake leaders, fake kings, even from ancient Israel’s history (what about fake prophets like Gerald and Stephen Flurry?). Individuals that appointed themselves like Adonijah and Absalom as well, Ish-bosheth, there’s plenty of examples like this in the Bible (THAT’S RICH. What about Gerald and Stephen Flurry?). My father said this in the Trumpet Brief, ‘You can see this passage and see how it’s one flowing event’–he’s talking about Amos 7. ‘There’s no hint of a gap or pause in Jeroboam’s reign. You can see why I wrote the article as I did.’”

SF then goes on to say that his father interpreted the 2 Kings verse regarding Jeroboam as an uninterrupted reign because the flow of Scripture timeline is uninterrupted–it’s all Jeroboam’s timeline. “This is clearly a prophecy of the very end for this nation and Jeroboam is in power. It has not yet been fulfilled. So based on this prophecy alone, we can be sure that God is going to give Donald Trump that office of presidency of the U.S., sooner or later.”

WELL, ZIP-A-DEE-DOO-DAH!! LIFE IS WONDERFUL, AIN’T IT? Life IS wonderful if you’re Gerald or Stephen Flurry.

Now all this blah, blah coming out of the mouths of Gerald and Stephen Flurry may all be well and true. Who knows? Donald Trump may in fact return in 2024 (Like I said, anybody could predict a return by Donald Trump for presidency in 2024. Nothing prophetic about that. Even Newsmax is predicting this. You might as well call Greg Kelly and Grant Stinchfield prophets. Who knows, they might even be the two witnesses. This is the Flurrys’ way of covering themselves. Do you see how deceptive this is? Doesn’t Matthew 24:24 say, “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect”? This is potentially deception on the highest level.)

Granted, Gerald Flurry actually acknowledges that he made a mistake about the so-called prophecy that Trump would REMAIN President. However, both he and his son Stephen have not acknowledged an even BIGGER MISTAKE (I call it a false prophecy). How do Gerald and Stephen Flurry explain away, “A JOE BIDEN PRESIDENCY IS CONTRARY TO BIBLE PROPHECY”?!! –M. G.

Comment: In our article, Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump we also bring out that GF wrote a November 9, 2020 article in the Trumpet entitled, “Donald Trump is Going to Win this Election.” [emp. mine]

GF and SF’s False View of Prophecies and Scripture:

January 27, 2021

GF and SF always emphasize frightening O. T. prophecies that will be fulfilled in our day. Of Amos 7 and 2 Kings 14:26-27 (the ones they are talking about lately) he says these are “God’s prophecies” and they have not been “entirely fulfilled.”

GF has appropriated certain titles, one being “that prophet,” but what he doesn’t bring out is that Amos (a prophet of God) also saw “visions.” Has GF seen visions? A “seer” was another name for a prophet in those days, who also saw visions mentally and spiritually. GF claims to have received revelation (not visions) about the book of Amos (and other books).

SF (on his “Make America California” Trumpet Radio program), said these are “God’s prophecies,” and he quoted I John 5:9-10 so he could talk about the  “witness of God”:

“If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.” (I John 5:9) (emp. mine)

However, SF did not go on to quote the next verse:

“And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.” (I John 5:11)

Nor did he quote the next two verses:

“He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” (Ibid. vs. 12-13)

SF then went on to quote Titus 1:2 “which God, that cannot lie” (to tie in with “God’s prophecies” not failing), but he omitted the first part that says, “In hope of eternal life.” God was promising eternal life in these verses! The hope of resting on eternal life.

PCG does not teach that one can know they have eternal life. Members do not have that assurance. –L. S.

Wik Heerma Tells Members to Remove Vanity From Their Lives:

January 31, 2021

Wik Heerma, in a recent Bible study, told members to “remove vanity” so they can prepare for the Days of Unleavened Bread. I found this so paradoxical when GF and the top ministers have got to be some of the most vanity-filled fat cats around. He said the root principle of sin is vanity and when we understand it, “we are understanding the mind of Satan.” So does that mean GF and all those elite know-it-all ministers filled with so much vanity have the mind of Satan? He said it is either sin or righteousness. It’s black and white. He said their prayers can be “too focused on themselves” or those in their inner circle. But “if we think like God” then we will “love all mankind” and intensify our prayers for the Work. Does GF’s cut-off ruling allow room for “loving all mankind”? Wik reminded them that they are “blinded to this” and they need to be cleansed of it. How? The answer was to keep the Law and ask themselves where they are deviating from it. The main way they deviate from it, he said, was because of “vanity.” Even though there have been worse sermonettes and sermons chastening members, this was only another message pounded into their manipulated minds for their sins. –Anonymous

Comment: Read: The Sin Question

GF Is at It Again:

February 1, 2021

Well, GF is at it again. He’s got another article out in the Trumpet: “Why I Still Believe Donald Trump is Coming Back.” ESN article: Gerald Flurry Says He “Made a Mistake” in His Article on Trump has now been updated at end with a critique of this Trumpet article. (Link is also on What’s New.) –L. S.

GF Now Puts His Article About Trump In March PT:

February 4, 2021

Since GF now has a “From the Editor” about Trump in the March Philadelphia Trumpet, I am sending you an article I wrote about this: Gerald Flurry Sweeps Trump Prophecy Under the Rug. I think one of the purposes of your site is to help others see where these people are wrong. And since this is the only thing they are focusing on at the moment, this is the reason I’m hammering them about it.  Obviously, they are aware of people like us criticizing them, whether it is in the letters or articles, it doesn’t matter. The main thing is that we don’t allow them to get away with their bold claims without a challenge. Let them know there are people out here who aren’t sheople like those still in that group, who are are easily deceived. –M. G. (former PCG member)

GF Denies He Gave a Prophecy/So Much Vanity Coming From GF’s Mouth:

(Letter has been updated with more info we were given)

February 4, 2021

GF recently denied that what he said was a prophecy, but only “words” that he said. (“This is not a failed prophecy, it’s not a prophecy at all. It’s what ‘I’ said”) This was in his January 23 sermon.

He also said, “Everybody has to be”tried and tested” and even brought out that, “Maybe some of our co-workers need to be shaken up by something like this (the false prophecy). Maybe that’s exactly what they need.”

He keeps trying to cover over his lies. He said he was “sorry for upsetting some people–unless that’s what God wants done.” It’s never a genuine apology. He even said, “The Apostles were 2,000 years off” and then chuckled about it.

He was filled with so much vanity in this January 23 sermon (“Where Are We in Bible Prophecy? Pt. 2”) and boasted, “There has been all kinds of new revelation given to me–over 50 books and booklets have new revelation that God has given to ME.” He said there were no such people besides himself where you could get new revelation.

He always talks about how God wants them to ROAR out of Zion and if they do that then God will take them to a place of safety. The only “roaring” I’ve ever heard is when he raises his voice and starts yelling. Who wants to hear that? But that is supposed to be part of the “power” he’s always talking about.

He doesn’t even talk about Christ saving us and coming into our lives but said, “God is going to come back and slaughter them all and then start a new civilization.” That’s the kind of Christ he worships. –[name withheld]

Comment: When GF told members it wasn’t a prophecy at all, but only words that he said, that is not true. Go to Gerald Flurry and His False Trump Prophecies” and notice the first paragraph under the heading “Trump Going to Remain President” where he says, “God has not shown me where there is any error in that prophecy that I have made.”

GF: Lunatic Ideas and Erroneous Theology:

February 17, 2021

After the new U. S. president was sworn in GF gave another of his sermons with lunatic ideas and erroneous theology. Here are just a few:

He believes Satan has already been cast down to earth–but members have “angelic protection.” However, Laodiceans (since they didn’t go with GF) are not so fortunate and Satan is “stamping all over them.”

Only PCG can see the “vision” and “can prove it” since, as GF says, “We are a special people before God.” The world “has to listen to this one last message” from GF. You hear this in all his sermons. Everything is always one last–“one last chance,” “one last warning,” etc. How many one lasts are there?

I had to shake my head when he said, “If you remain loyal to God, you are never going to be spiritually alone.” He won’t come out and say that what he really means is: “If you remain loyal to PCG government.” But even so, what does that have to do with being “spiritually alone”? Perhaps it means “alone” when you are thrown out of PCG.

The word “loyal” isn’t even in the KJV which is what GF uses (except when he twists words from some other version such as the Moffat). What escapes GF is that loyal is primarily what God is to us. We are told in the Word of God that even if we are faithless, He remains faithful. (See II Timothy 2:13 NKJV:” If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.”) Why is that not understood by those in PCG?

I would say it is because members are not being taught that if they belong to Christ, nothing can take away their salvation. [Note: See Q&A: Can We Ever Lose Our Salvation?] The Word of God continually says God will never leave us or forsake us and that He continues to work in us until the end of our life. (See Philippians 1:26 KJV: “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:” and Hebrews 13:5 KJV: “…he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.”

GF said to “study the new Trumpet magazine…especially the feature articles as they are truly outstanding.” Folks, how about studying the book of Colossians without PCG literature and find the treasures in Christ? (Colossians 2:3 KJV: “In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.”) We have everything we need in Christ. But that isn’t enough for GF.

He quoted from HWA so many times that I lost track of which were HWA’s words and which were GF’s, He said we are “going to rule the Universe” and “restore the Universe” (this doctrine comes from the Mormons) and we need to “get our minds on the New Jerusalem.” How about saying “get our minds on Christ” who is our only hope. (See Colossians 1:27: “Christ in you, the hope of glory:“)

Towards the end of his sermon he said, “This is our future”and talked about the “power” we are going to be given. It’s all about power with GF. –Anonymous

GF Looking Through the Lens of Gnosticism:

February 17, 2021

GF (as HWA did) is looking through the lens of Gnosticism. (This is not to mention his “revelations” and hearing what he thinks is the voice of God.) Gnosticism is a very old heresy that teaches that the truth has to be decoded, uncovered, unlocked, unveiled, discovered. This was clearly shown on the chart in your article: Did Herbert Armstrong Have God’s Truth? (Includes New Age & Occultic similarities). –T. S.

GF Never Mentions The Horrible Things Happening in OK:

February 18, 2021

It’s funny how GRF never mentions all the horrible things that happen in Oklahoma, but is always quick to mention how “God is cursing California due to how they treated HWA and WCG.” –Former WCG/PCG member

PCG Members Told to Take a Stand and Die If Necessary:

February 19, 2021

Before his transfer to Edstone, England Wayne Turgeon gave a Bible study where he kept quoting HWA and told how HWA in a 1984 sermon said (and I quote): “We are becoming God teachers.”

He cited Romans 8:31 and then said, “How dare anyone come against a true Christian? They don’t know what they’re dealing with and what they’re messing with.” He went on to say, “But do we always realize who’s behind us, and who’s backing us when the times get tough? Or are we going to run like the flip-flopping politicians? Or are we willing to take a stand and die if necessary?” He added, “If we are loyal to God (translation: loyal to PCG govt.), He always watches over us.”

He also said, “We pray we will all be together soon in that place of safety wherever that might be. Things are going to get worse before they get better.” –Anonymous

Note: Joel Hilliker has replaced Wayne Turgeon as principal of Imperial Academy.

Wayne Turgeon Is Arrogant:

February 21, 2021

First of all, thanks to Exit and Support Network™ and all the people who take the time to post things here so others can hear what is happening in the PCG and other places.

When I was attending the PCG I was not married and I would go out on dates with women in the PCG whenever I had time or whenever I felt like it. After I had been attending for about 7 years– and that arrogant Wayne Turgeon was the “Regional Director” of the area I lived in–he had the nerve to Email me and tell me that I had been attending the PCG long enough as a single man and I needed to pick some woman who I liked and start “Marriage Counseling.” –Former PCG member

Constant Throat Clearing:

February 20, 2021

Why are so many of these ministers in PCG constantly having to clear their throat? Without fail, Gerald Flurry will start off sounding like he has something wrong with his throat, and it takes him awhile to talk normally as he makes his “throat noises”; Brian Davis does it, and now I’ve heard Wayne Turgeon doing it. –Anonymous.

Thank You for Posting the Link to the Song That Helped Me:

February 21, 2021

I am very happy with the decision you took to post the link [to “He Who Began a Good Work in You” (with lyrics)], so this song can help other persons healing in a very mellow way, as it did me. It is also full of hope. God really inspired the author of this song. He can do so much with simple things.

I will continue to go on your site. There is so much to learn. Keep up your good work! –Mario [first name used with permission]

Comment: Mario’s has two testimonies on the site are: “I Was Almost Got Sucked Into the Swirl of PCG,” and “I Was Wounded More Deeply than I Thought.” See January 2 letter above. (The song is linked to the last testimony at the end since it was mentioned by him in his testimony.)

Gerald Flurry Trying to Give Himself a New Look:

February 25, 2021

I noticed that GF has a different photo of himself on his site now, trying to give a new look to himself by placing a slight smile on his previously sourpuss face. He is trying very hard to look and behave like HWA, down to the same type glasses, same hairstyle, same hand and arm movements, same furrowed brow, and appearing to look very studious with an open Bible in front of him on a large mahogany desk with a massive amount of books in back of him. –[name withheld]

Comment: The only thing it seems that GF can do is copy HWA.

No Qualms Studying Thought Reform:

February 25, 2021

After reading much on your site, I have ascertained that GF, his son, and all their spineless, obedient lackeys have no qualms studying thought reform to control their followers. The only truth they have is the ability to screw people’s minds up. No way are they preaching the pure gospel of grace. I don’t see how they could even believe in God. The evil is that they don’t give a damn about what they’re doing to people. The Lake of Fire awaits them. –Impacted by PCG

Youth in PCG Must Get Ready for the Second Coming:

February 26, 2021

PCG has 890 youths right now that are high school age and down and ripe for brainwashing.

GF stated, “We must get our young people ready for the 2nd coming.” The major way he said PCG will accomplish this is through their families and through Imperial Academy–which is for Kindergarten through 12th grade and whose principal is now SS Henchman Joel Hilliker, the man who himself has stated that parents are to “instruct their children in the way of God; instructing them all the time.”  –[name withheld]

GF Says He Doesn’t Want to Sound Vain or Proud:

February 27, 2021

This comes straight from the horse’s mouth. GF in his sermon “Where Are We in Bible Prophecy?” when referring to Amos 7, said, “I don’t want to sound vain or proud, but the truth is, nobody would even understand Amos 7, if God didn’t reveal it to me[voice get quiet] unless He did it some other way. heehee. That is a fact.” –Info forwarded from PCG source

Jim Cocomise Suspended:

February 28, 2021

A reliable source recently confirmed that Jim Cocomise from the Dayton/Cincinnati area has been suspended, but the reason why is not known. He had not been attending since January of this year. –Anonymous

Comment: Doing a search on our site for Jim Cocomise will show what kind of minister he was.

Cocomise Must Have Ticked Someone off:

March 1, 2021

The news about Jim Cocomise finally leaked out but no one knows the reason why he was suspended. If he is ever allowed to come back, he will never be permitted to hold the position of minister again. He must have ticked off someone that was high in the upper levels because his suspension would have had to be approved through GF himself.–[name withheld]

Members Not Allowed to Make Their Own Decisions:

March 1, 2021

Members are not allowed to make decisions on their own, but instead are told what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. In regard to the Sabbath they’re instructed to pack lunches on Fri so they don’t have to do it on the Sabbath, choose their (best) clothing on Friday so they don’t have to do it Saturday morning; and they are told what to do for the upcoming week; e.g., what to read, how to deleaven their home (get one area done first), etc. This is all part of Lifton’s Eight Criteria of Mind Control. –Anonymous

Gerald Flurry Getting Crazier by the Day:

March 1, 2021

In a previous post someone commented how GF had a “new look.” I found a different photo of him on one of his other pages with that smug grin on his face and to me he looks downright sinister!

I had the “honor” to listen to Pt. 3 of his sermon “Where are We in Bible Prophecy?” and it was all I could stomach to listen to a few parts. He is getting crazier by the day. He focused on nothing but Tribulation, wrath, punishment, death, how many are going to die, how there won’t be many left, Germany is going to strike and kill, etc. I don’t know how members can sit there week after week and listen to this bull crap doom and gloom.

He said the Prayer Rock they are in possession of is “a symbol of Jesus Christ.” (A rock in the Bible is a symbol of Christ but not HWA’s prayer rock! As mentioned in the article Idolatry in the PCG, this rock is nothing but blatant idolatry!)

Here are some other things he said:

“Who are we that God would entrust us to deliver this message to this world and especially three nations of Israel and God’s Laodicean church most of all. The PCG has the New Throne of David and the New Stone of Destiny. That’s putting us in a pretty close proximity to God.”

He was downright arrogant when he started criticizing Evangelicals and saying, “How much do those people who are following Trump–how much do they know about their Bible? You could almost say zero. They are getting further away from God all the time.” (Who is getting further from God? Isn’t it GF?) “We have to learn you can’t follow a puny little man [i. e., Trump]” (And who is following puny little Gerald Flurry??) “They don’t obey much of anything in the Bible. They don’t obey God and they don’t want to obey God. But they will follow Jeroboam [i. e., Trump] And that’s their great sin.” (What about those who are following GF? Isn’t that a great sin?)

He raised  his voice when he said, “God’s wrath is on this nation!” and “This is a strong message that we have to deliver to these people!”

The more I listened to him the more delusional I could see he is becoming and the more of a headache I got. –[name withheld]

Broken and Abused Youth and Members Inside:

March 2, 2021

I don’t see any chance for the Flurries and his ministers at the top since it is clear they are sociopathic and have given themselves over to be servants of Satan the Devil. But I do feel for the broken, abused youth and members trapped inside. I pray their eyes will be opened and they will be able to leave and be set free. –Impacted by PCG

Eric Burns to Replace Jim Cocomise:

March 2, 2021

Eric Burns will be leaving Edmond to replace Jim Cocomise in the Northeast Region. Brad MacDonald, Regional Director in the UK and Europe, replaced Burns as the Assistant Dean of Students at HQs. –Anonymous

Bogus Letters Sent to PCG:

March 5, 2021

The letters that PCG reads to its members are what I believe to be bogus letters, basically made up to keep members believing what GF says. If you’ve studied how to spot fake reviews or letters, they all have too much glowing praise, lots of superlatives, exclamation marks, repetition, use of buzzwords, no critical thinking, and no criticism whatsoever. –Anonymous

Comment: This has been brought up before and the letters sound too much like something a PCG minister would write.

My Family Knew Jim Cocomise and John Cocomise:

March 6, 2021

I appreciate being updated about happenings in the PCG over the years through your site.

I read the letter on your site saying Jim Cocomise was suspended and has been replaced by Eric Burns. All this is very concerning news. My family was very close to both John Cocomise and his brother Jim. The no contact ruling caused a very sad, grievous division for about the past 18 years.

I know it is too early to have any hope of members’ eyes being opened but I long for the day. Some of the stories I’ve read on Jim and John’s dealings with PCG members are disturbing. [Note by ESN: Do a search on both their names] Just for the record this is not who they were prior to being part of the PCG “ministry.”

Another ironic thing is Jim Cocomise and Eric Burns lived many years [in the past] in the same town while in the PCG. Their families grew up together and were tightly knit. Now they use Eric to replace him. –Former PCG member [name withheld]

Lies in Sermon by SF Will Keep Members Under the Law:

March 6, 2021

[The following were notes were sent to us by a PCG source and L. S. has added comments.]

SF in a recent sermon “Focus on the Lamb of God” (which did not focus on the Lamb of God but on sin and the Law), was filled with what I call lies. He also quoted from HWA many times.

SF says, “Jesus had to be crucified because God won’t compromise with his Law.” Lie. Christ willingly shed his blood on Calvary and rose again in order to pay for the sins of the entire world. He was foreordained (chosen) to be the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. I Peter 1:20; Revelation 13:8.

SF says, “The view [in the world] is that He [Jesus] did it all for us and that is a cop-out.” Lie. The truth is that He did do it all for us. Ephesians 1:7; II Corinthians 5:21, and many more Scriptures. This is the gospel of grace.

SF says, “What Christ went through is proof that God’s Law is active and valid and in force.” He added that Luke 24 says it. Lie. The Bible says no such thing. Jesus is telling His disciples in Luke 24 that Moses and all the prophets spoke of the things concerning Himnot the law. (See Luke 24:25-27) Read our articles: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God and Must We Keep the Law for Salvation?

SF says, “Jesus had to die because God won’t compromise with His Law.” Lie. Quoted HWA as saying it is false what “people in the world are saying that Jesus did these things for us because we can’t keep the law perfectly.” Quoted HWA as saying, “We have to keep the Law in order to be saved” and “God won’t receive you just as you are.” Lie. The Scriptures say “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (II Corinthians 5:21) There are no works of the Law involved in salvation. It is a free gift. John 3:16. Read some of our articles in our section Law & Grace and especially many of Bob George‘s “A Closer Look” booklets.

SF continually quoted words by HWA from his sermons and articles, which  will always sound good and right until you exam them in the light of God’s Word. Read our article: Why Herbert Armstrong Could Not Have Been God’s True Apostle.

SF says, “Young people have left PCG recently; they weren’t making the necessary changes they should have. In the end Satan overcame them.” Lie. Maybe these young people wanted out from under the burdens in PCG and to be able to make their own decisions.

SF says, “If you don’t commit to a life of overcoming you will become calloused and drift away from God.” Lie. Victory comes by resting in Christ, not struggling. Go to our article: Must We Keep the Law for Salvation? and search for the word “overcome.”

SF’s voice, the same as all top level PCG ministers I’ve heard gets very loud in the middle of this sermon.

SF says,”We are living it first now and then will teach the whole world how to do it.” Lie. Members are not able to keep the Law perfectly so how can they teach the “whole world” in the future how to do it?

When we focus on the Law it arouses sin, and causes sin to have more power. See Must We Keep the Law for Salvation? and click on the question “Can you explain more about the works of the Law and salvation?”

This sermon will keep members in bondage to the Law not cause them to focus on “The Lamb of God” who took away the sin of the world. (John 1:29) –[name withheld] (additional comments by L. S.)

Contradictions and Twisting by Brad Macdonald Regarding Humility:

March 7, 2021

The previous letter which told how SF would not only take something from the Bible and twist it to mean something else, but also say contradictory things, reminds me of a Bible study I heard from Brad Macdonald on “Humility” that was to prepare members for Passover. He said, “Humility is seeing yourself exactly as God sees you.” Then he went on to talk about how that humility can be vanity if we don’t see our potential (with the Holy Spirit).

He quoted from an old 1966 Good News which explained what humility is and said one of the marks of it is, “submissive to authority.” This is always twisted to mean authority to “government in PCG.”

He said, “If our children don’t have humility how can they have a relationship with God?”

I might also add that Macdonald’s voice did indeed get high in the middle of the sermon, almost to the point to where it sounded like a crotchety old woman. I don’t think I’ve ever heard it that bad. –Anonymous

Comment: All this humility by being “submissive to authority” has led to much abuse in PCG, physically and emotionally, whether it be from the husband or the minister. As we mention in the last paragraph of our article, “Are You Being Abused by Your Husband?” “There is no place in Scripture that shows leaders in the N.T. church have the authority to give personal advice and direction in the life of believers. That means there is no military model of church government that is supported by the Word of God.”

PCG Has Produced Their Own “The Bible Story”:

March 8, 2021

WCG still owns the copyright to the first six volumes of The Bible Story but, according to PCG’s Church page under the News tab, there is an article by Philip Nice, dated April 17, 2020, “Member Contributes Bible Story Podcast,” which tells how PCG “has produced seven additional volumes, covering Bible history from King David through the apostles.” Michael Strachan records the stories (with sound effects) which are aired on KPCG. The article mentions Joel Hilliker’s enthusiastic reaction after hearing a sample of  Volume 1.

I then happened to find a page under their “Resources” tab that says “Bible Story” and clicking on that it shows pictures of The Bible Story, Volumes 7 through 13. The colored pictures on the outside are nothing like what were on WCG’s The Bible Story, When you click on each book it opens up in as .pdf. This could be what Nice is narrating from. I did not have time to see all that the books are saying, but volume 7 said: copyright 2013 by PCG; Text by Robert Morley and David Brandon. Volume 13 said copyright 2019. Who knows what they’re trying to accomplish with these books. –A. R.

Purpose of PCG’s The Bible Story Books?

March 9, 2021

What is the purpose of PCG’s The Bible Story books? To keep the young children occupied until they get into the “hard” PCG stuff?  –Anonymous

Reply: PCG is unable to make a Bible Story book since they don’t understand the true gospel or salvation. In checking a few volumes, we found subtle twisting of the Scriptures while inserting PCG doctrine. Here are a few quotes from the Volume 11 which covered Jesus talking with Nicodemus: (ESN comments in blue and bold emphasis added)

“Then, once converted, he will be born into God’s Kingdom when Jesus Christ establishes it on Earth. [no Bible verses to back this up] Being ‘born of water’ refers to a person being begotten spiritually by repenting, being baptized [by PCG ministers] and allowing ministers [only PCG ministers] to pray for God to give that person His Holy Spirit.” [no Bible verses to back this up]

“Being born ‘of the Spirit’ refers to a person growing spiritually [translation: growing in character which means growing more obedient to PCG government] and being resurrected as a spirit being into the Kingdom of God.” [no mention of a bodily resurrection; denial of a bodily resurrection was the first heresy in the church; download our first review of Mystery of the Ages and see chapter 6, Pt. 1.]

What PCG teaches is blatantly false. See our section on Grace & Law and especially our two reviews of Mystery of the Ages which cover these topics. [available as PDF on our downloads page]

“Jesus told Nicodemus that his Father loved every human being…” [this is how they reword John 3:16 where Jesus talks about God so loved the world that whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have eternal life] “Jesus also warned Nicodemus about the evil, satanic nature that human beings have.” (John 3:18-19) [Jesus said nothing about an “evil, satanic nature”; He said those who don’t believe on Him are condemned already because their deeds (not nature) were evil]

In the Introduction to each of these volumes it says, “Volume [such and such] describes the establishment of God’s one true Church [buzzword meaning PCG; The Bible doesn’t doesn’t use the words “one true church”] on the day of Pentecost in a.d. 31.”

PCG Men Knew Their Brains Were Superior to Women’s:

March 12, 2021

When I was in PCG, I noticed that the fellowshipping was almost completely segregated among male-female lines. There were a few men in our area who insisted their wives stand right beside them every moment. The wife was not allowed to talk to another woman without her husband’s approval; he had to be right there to hear every word said to her, and she could not give an opinion unless it was his opinion. It was a horrible abuse of power from puny little men with puny little brains and puny little masculinity, who were big losers in real life, but on Saturday they could put on a polyester leisure suit and pretend to be important by browbeating their wives. In general, women just did not talk to men in PCG because men knew their brains were created superior, and that women did not have the reasoning ability they did, which is why God put them in charge. I also remember a lot of women reading plenty of “stand-by-your-man-right-or-wrong” books, which is absolutely the wrong thing to read in an abusive situation. –Former PCG member

Exhausting to Deal With Parent in PCG:

March 14, 2021

I found your site a couple of years ago, but wanted to know if you have any additional resources in regard to family members being influenced? My parent is a follower of PCG. It  is all quite exhausting having to deal with a standoffish person constantly, as I am not a follower of this “church” and do not know how to speak to my parent properly about [certain issues]. Isn’t the point of religion to teach how to live truthfully, authentically, and respect for your common neighbor? PCG has done so much damage to my family, and I feel it’s just going to get worse. –Impacted by PCG [name withheld]

Comment: This person has received a personal reply. Also see, “If You Have a Loved One in a Deceptive, Exploitive Group.”

Members Told Not to Take Satan’s Bait:

March 19, 2021

Roger Brandon recently gave a sermonette where he told members not to take Satan’s Bait. (Comments by L. S.)

He threw out the question, “Have you ever wondered what Satan is doing during the days leading into Passover and Days of Unleavened Bread?” (Comment: This causes the members to concentrate right away on Satan.)

Then he told them Satan is getting them to “leave the church” and “bait them into sinning” and if they do those things, he can “slowly erode their faith.” He quoted from HWA more than once. (Comment: Brandon doesn’t mention that even though Satan tempts Christians in many ways, “we are not unaware of his schemes” [II Corinthians 2:11] and we can take up “the shield of faith” to “quench all the fiery darts” thrown at  us [Ephesians 6:16].)

He talked about Satan “broadcasting in attitudes and moods” and “sometimes we can’t resist that bait.” (Comment: This is referring to how HWA always said Satan had some sort of “wavelength” that he sends out through the air broadcasting bad attitudes. This is the opposite of Ephesians 6:10-18, a passage which talks about more than “Satan” having some sort of “bait.”)

He quoted I Peter 5:8 and said, “Satan is “always on the job” and” Satan is out to destroy us.” (Comment: These words do nothing but concentrate on fear.)

Then he laid guilt on the members, by saying, “When we fall it’s because we’re not close enough to God.”  (Comment: It’s because we are not depending wholly on Christ and standing fast in His grace [I Peter 5:12 and Colossians 2:5, steadfastness in Christ, which Brandon didn’t quote because he left out grace and Christ as our Helper.)

He told them there is “grave danger” in getting their minds on themselves. Because then they “can’t really comprehend Passover or conquer the Devil.” (Comment: It is Jesus, not us, who is the one that goes forth to “conquer” [Revelation 6:2]. Also read: How can I observe Passover if I’ve left the group? from our Q&A which also talks about Passover).

He said Satan has the “right bait” for each of us and it might be to: not pay our tithes, control our temper, lack of patience, lust of the flesh, or words we hear from others and how we react. (Comment: Tithing and offerings have always been a major doctrine in PCG, especially during the holy days. Read: “Tithing and Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing.”)

One of the worst things he said was that God won’t even hear our prayers (he quoted Isaiah 59:2) and added that “Our sins separate us from God.” (Comment: This is seriously in error since God has forgiven all our sins through Christ Jesus. Read: “The Sin Question.” PCG ministers are known to constantly quote from the O. T. which was the old covenant and Christians are not under the old covenant.)

There was so much emphasis on striving with a focus on Satan in this sermonette. (Comment: Brandon does not want to emphasize that we who have trusted Christ and his free gift of eternal life are overcomers because “the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world” (1 John 4:4). He does not focus on Christ and what He has already done for us. –[name withheld] (additional comments by L. S.)

Finding a Copy of the Trumpet Was Like a Slap in the Face:

March 23, 2021

Hello! I am a child survivor of PCG and my mom told me about this site. We went to services when it was being led by Aaron Eagle, Sr. My dad was the main one who went, my mom only went a handful of times. He started attending PCG after ditching WCG in the late 90s. … Last year I found a copy of Philadelphia Trumpet at my doctor’s office which started my interest in finding others (I was so shocked when I saw it–like a slap in the face). I’ve managed to reconnect with one person. I would like to receive the ESN Email list. –[name withheld]

GF Doesn’t Fellowship With the Devil:

March 25, 2021

GF wants to make us think he’s doing a great work. He said PCG has their literature in 10 foreign languages now and that it was “miraculous.” According to Ethnologue, there are currently 7,099 living languages in the world, and at least one portion of Scripture has been translated for 3,312 of these languages. GF can’t hold a candle to that. All he is interested in is boasting about himself. He does not preach the gospel about Jesus Christ and Him crucified as Paul and the Apostles did. (Acts 5:42; I Corinthians 1:23, etc.) Why isn’t he partnering with others to get more Bibles out in other languages? Because he’s made it clear he doesn’t “fellowship with the Devil.” [i. e., mainstream Christians] –Anonymous

Crazy  Statement by Wayne Turgeon:

March 28, 2020

I read the article about Wayne Turgeon’s sermon where he emphasized Christ only died for those in the “one true Church) meaning PCG, which was great. But you forgot to add at the end the crazy statement that Wayne Turgeon said which was formerly linked in the letter. –G. R.

Reply: Thanks for bringing this up. It has now been added at the end, along with linking to a related letter and testimony about Wayne Turgeon. Wayne Turgeon is Gerald Flurry’s son-in-law. We also discovered that what Turgeon said about “keeping your nose stuck in church literature” was also  in the testimony: Life at Herbert W. Armstrong College where Turgeon said the same thing back then to students. (This link goes to the paragraph with Turgeon’s words.)

Services for Spring Holy Days Long and Tiring:

March 29, 2021

Members attend all day services for the first and last days of Unleavened Bread, from mid morning until very late afternoon. This is not unlike the early years in the WCG when members met for two services on the Holy Days and spent all day with the brethren. Many times they had to travel hours away to the meeting place. This makes for a very long and tiring day, especially for the children –J.

Winston Davis and His Remarriage:

March 29, 2021

Do you know who made the unfortunate decision to marry Winston Davis? He got remarried on November 22, 2020. I am just floored someone would actually agree to marrying him! –B. C.

Reply: Winston Davis, a preaching elder in South Carolina, and the father of so-called “laughing” Brian Davis (who himself remarried nine months after the death of his 2nd wife), married Brenda Fox.

PCG Sermons Are Spiritual Poison:

March 29, 2021

When my mate in PCG listens to the broadcast or sermons, I can hear GF’s, SF’s and other ministers’ voices but I can’t make out clearly what they’re saying and I don’t want to. I stay in the other room or find something to do when those sermons or programs come on. I don’t want that spiritual poison in my mind. It doesn’t take me long to want to exit the room when that garbage comes on. Speaking from experience, it makes for a crowded life when you have a mate in PCG. You always feel GF’s presence in your lives. Cult leaders make for an uncomfortable “third wheel.” –Impacted by loved one in PCG

GF Emphasizing the Devil:

March 30, 2021

GF likes to refer to mainstream Christians as “of the Devil” [see March 25 letter], but he is the one who is constantly emphasizing the words, “the Devil.” His frequent use of the word betrays the company he keeps. –W. A.

Smartphone Policy Being Brought up Again:

March 30, 2021

Smartphones were forbidden to be used by those on campus last year (read November 19, 2020 letter: “PCG Ruling Says No Smartphones Allowed“). It was January 24, 2020 when Andrew Locher gave a sermon about “Technology Use” where he said using smart devices will “destroy our teenagers.” That was the time G. Flurry put in place policies that would eliminate Smartphones on campus to “set the example for the brethren,” even though some did not obey that policy at the time.

The February 21, 2020 phone policy update said full time ministers were “expected to switch from their Smartphones to a future phone.” However, if some needed a Smartphone for their business, that was okay. G. Flurry “approved” the use of i-pads if you needed one. Then the April 2020 Pastor General’s Report reiterated again that the cell phone policy for ministers was that ministers should not be using Smartphones unless they were required to use one for their business. There were no exceptions for this policy. Minister’s wives were likewise expected to make the transition away from Smartphones.

Not all members have been following this policy because this subject about Smartphones was brought up again at the recent PCG Ministerial Conference when Stephen Flurry gave a lecture. He talked about what he called “the signs of warning and danger” for the congregation if they used Smartphones. One of the warning signs he said was “too much technology.”

Wayne Turgeon on day two of the conference gave a lecture on “Materialism” [Note by ESN: Why then did Turgeon in a 2021 sermon refer to all the materialism, riches and luxuries at HQs as “perks and fringe benefits” for being the few first fruits on this earth?] and said, “Materialism [not Charles Darwin] is the father of evolution and what we call human nature is really Satan’s nature. [Note by ESN: Human nature is that which makes us distinctly human] … People change a little at a time in the direction of the masses as they are influenced a little at a time.” This sounded to me exactly how PCG members change a little at a time as they are influenced by the leader’s mind control.

I know several members in PCG who all have Smartphones. But if G. Flurry continues his crack down, the day could come when we’ll see them with a flip phone again. It’s ridiculous to what lengths PCG will go to in order to keep members from finding out the truth about PCG. I know GF is also worried about someone recording their sermons with these Smartphones.

Members have been told that if they want to overcome they must hear what God (i. e., PCG government) is saying about this.

Members, however, are still using Smartphones. –[name withheld]

Comment: To understand more about the control methods PCG is using, see “Lifton’s Eight Criteria of Thought Reform.”

PCG a Fake Church and Dangerous Cult:

April 3, 2021

I am in agreement with the person who said PCG reads or prints mostly bogus (“made up”) letters. [See 3-5-21 letter]. If letters aren’t focusing on how someone’s life has been changed because of Christ, and contain too much effusive praise, I am suspicious of them.

The same holds true with PCG bragging about how “large” their offerings are during the holy days. The identical boasting happened under HWA’s reign. During the Feast it was always “let’s see if we can top that.” Unless we are able to view their financial records or hear from someone who worked at HQs and then left, we have no way of knowing for sure, as they lie most of the time.

About GF’s “new” look. I have never seen a picture of any of these so-called ministers with a true-life smile on their faces. Stephen Flurry’s goofy smile looks like he can’t quite smile. I have reservations if any of them even know how to express an honest smile that exhibits authentic joy, the kind that comes from the Holy Spirit. And there are no pictures of their staff on their website. They only display two pictures–Gerald Flurry and Herbert Armstrong–which reveal exactly who they idolize. No one could dream when coming across their impressive site that they are in actuality a fake church and dangerous cult that will mess up their life in a profound way.

Being aligned with Satan and using his schemes is the only reason they have accomplished as much as they have with all their monies. There is an old saying: “Satan takes care of his own.” Their day is coming, and hopefully soon, when they will answer for every evil they have ever done. –T. S.

PCG Receives $1 Million From Non-Member:

April 3, 2021

GF recorded a sermon on March 27 which was played the afternoon of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. He announced that a non-member donated $1 million to the PCG. He said he didn’t know who he was but he had some sort of corporation. –[name withheld]

The Last I Heard Ryan Malone Give a Sermon:

April 4, 2021

The last time I am aware of that Ryan Malone gave a sermon was March 6th, and it was named “Beauty is Measurement.” In my opinion Ryan has a very big ego. –[name withheld]

PCG’s $1 Million Offering Sounds Suspicious:

April 5, 2021

I read about how PCG received $1 million from a non-member as an offering. Makes me wonder if the PCG is involved in money laundering. “Churches” (and cults like WCG) have been used for that before.

I remember how PCG was involved in the 2012 Seabreeze Collusion money laundering in South Africa with Max Rumler and Alex Foster exposed it. [Note: Go to Articles on Gerald Flurry and read Letter #1 and Letter #2 to Gerald Flurry from Alex Foster about proof of major theft going on in South Africa PCG.]

I’m surprised GF would mention this “offering” to the members, unless of course he figured that the news would eventually leak out anyway, and he didn’t want to appear surprised. By announcing it before the news leaked (a donation that size would leak out, sooner or later), he kept in control of the situation, plus, he was able to give his reason for the “offering” (or donation).

I just find it highly unlikely that someone, anyone, would just donate $1 million to the PCG for whatever reason. There’s something in it for them, and it sounds crooked. “Getting the message out” from Jerusalem or whatever reason that the PCG is giving to the members sounds like a cover. Like I said, sounds suspicious. –W. C.

Comment: Money laundering was mentioned in OIU #5, pt 3 and OIU #6 pt 3 (search for those words in the OIU Newsletters when they open up). [opens as PDF]

Fred Dattolo Article Was Very Much Needed:

April 6, 2020

The new article on Fred Dattolo [Fred Dattolo Gives a Warning to PCG Members] was very much needed. He was one of the ministers held responsible in the death of Dan De Gennaro’s daughter Janet due to the no-contact ruling. What misery that man has caused. –H. E.

Reply: We just added links at the end to De Gennaro’s testimony which includes Dattolo’s name in several places and also to the 2020 PCG letter (“Dangerous Lion’s Den”) where he screamed at a member.

Ryan Malone is Still Around:

April 8, 2021

A letter was posted [in the past] questioning if Ryan Malone and family were missing or had exited PCG. Ryan Malone is at Armstrong Auditorium tonight with the cellist. I’m watching it with my own eyes. I am sending you two photos of the performance. –[name withheld]

Comment: This person, who has been in contact with ESN, sent us two colored photos of Ryan performing at the Armstrong Auditorium which was live. The name of the performance was Sara Sant’Ambrogio. Note: The letter insinuating the Ryan Malone and family were MIA has been removed.

Not the Only One Who Has Been Slandered and Backstabbed:

April 9, 2021

Since I discovered your website a year ago, I have read most of the letters and many of your other articles. I have come to see I am not the only one who has been slandered and backstabbed. The PCG ministers do not want anyone discussing what they have said or for any information about them to leak out. You are doing a great service and I admire you for having the courage to speak out. As for that person who came at you and criticized you and your work, I am sure it must happen as there must be many who make a hobby of going about seeing who they can trouble and discredit. Thank you all. –Former member of PCG

PCG Will Do Whatever They Can to Protect Themselves:

April 10, 2021

In response to your last posted letter about the PCG–same boat here, lied about and slandered by the ministry. You are definitely not alone.

Over the last several years it was starting to become clear things weren’t right and the hypocrisy was so bad you could no longer turn a blind eye to it. If you ask questions they’ll assess the situation and if they feel they can not regain 100% control over you then you can be sure you are then on your way out, one way or another, they’ll see to it. It was a sickening experience especially after being indoctrinated for so long, but in the end I’m thankful as it lead to open eyes about the PCG/Armstrongism. They will do whatever they have to in order to protect themselves and the organization.

I just wanted to write this after seeing the previous letter, because as it’s happening it can feel like you are alone. I know reading these can help others who are no doubt going through the same thing. Thank you ESN. –Anonymous former PCG member

PCG Feast Sites for 2021:

April 10, 2021

The Feast Sites for 2021 are:

Edmond, OK (Headquarters)

Rapid City, SD

Tannersville (Poconos), PA

Welches (Mt. Hood),OR

Greenville, SC (final year for this site)

Phoenix, AZ

Plantations Estate, Tobago (not open to international transfers)

Tweed Heads, Australia (not open to international transfers)

Clark, Philippines (not open to international transfers)

–[name withheld]

PCG Charging Members to Attend Their Activities at the Feast:

April 10, 2021

In the earlier years when people went to the FOT in the WCG there were many different activities for everyone and no one ever had to pay to attend any of them. Members could, however, if they wanted, purchase reasonably priced small sandwiches (under a tent on a softball field for example) at sites such as the Ozarks. But PCG members today must purchase tickets online (for U. S. sites only) by August 18, 2021 if they plan to attend any of the PCG functions at the FOT. And their purchases must appear on the back of their name badges. Here are some examples:

1st Holy Day Luncheon Ticket $12.00-$25.00
Sabbath Luncheon Ticket $12.00-$25.00
Senior Luncheon Ticket $25.00
Family Day Ticket $12.00-$20.00
Teen Activity Ticket $35.00
Singles Mixer Ticket $25.00
Older Singles Event Ticket $50.00
Younger Singles Activity Ticket $50.00
Last Great Day Luncheon Ticket $12.00-$25.00

This is simply another way for GF to extract a little more money out of the members. –[name withheld]

Certain Members Relegated to the Basement or the Balcony  During Feast Services:

April 10, 2020

Members with small children are to be seated in the basement of Armstrong Auditorium during Feast services. If you are in a wheelchair, are hard of hearing, or have translation needs, you are to sit in the balcony. (Taken from “Important Instructions” for PCG members attending or not attending the FOT). –[name withheld]

Important Feast Instructions Per Gerald Flurry:

GF has always had his strict rules for attending or not attending the Feast. I will only list a few excerpts (with comments):

(1) Name badges are required for those 18 (and out of high school) and older who will be attending North American Feast services. These pre-printed name badges must be obtained at the registration table prior to the Opening Night service… Please cooperate and wear yours. This rule has several reasons for enforcement. If you are told to go get your badge, do not argue or make excuses. (Comment: Don’t be rebellious. These name badges will help us pinpoint if someone has slipped into services who is not a member, especially if it is someone who wants to take pictures or cause trouble.)

(2) If you feel you are unable to attend the Feast for any reason, please counsel first with your local minister before making that final decision. (Comment: So he can find out if you haven’t been saving your 2nd tithe) If you are unable to attend, you still must register; (Comment: No reason; just do it. We may want to tally how many are in PCG.)

(3) If you have turned 18 and are out of high school, you must call HQs and update your status (ask for Accounts Receivable) (Comment: Accounts Receivable will show whether or not you have been robbing God with your tithes and offerings.)

(4) Females must wear one-piece swimsuits. One-piece swimsuits are the standard for females. The cut should not run too high up the thigh. A safe guideline would be for it to approximately follow the natural crease in the groin. Also, be sure it completely covers the buttocks. Tankinis are unacceptable unless the two pieces are sewn or tacked together so that they don’t come apart and expose the midsection. Swimsuits can be worn with skirts or shorts over them, but this is not required of our ladies. Lastly, as with shirts, no cleavage should be exposed. (Comment: We do not want our young men (or especially any of our ministers) gawking at the ladies and getting wrong ideas [as if they don’t have enough]. Read: What Happened At Robber’s Cave?)

–[name withheld]

Ryan Malone Gave Sermon on First Day of Unleavened Bread:

April 12, 2021

I regret that I didn’t see the letter sooner before you removed it from the person who said Ryan Malone and family were MIA. I could have told you that Ryan Malone gave a sermon on the First Day of Unleavened Bread: “The Desire to Overcome.” I’m sorry you had to endure so much trouble from him.  However, I do have notes from Joel Hilliker’s sermon to send you and you may want make comments. –[name withheld]

Heretical Statements in Sermon by Joel Hilliker:

April 12, 2021

It would be far better if members in PCG could make the decision to walk away so they would not have to listen to the Bible being twisted week after week. The ministers do not know how to properly teach it because only the Holy Spirit can open someone’s mind to understand the Bible.

On the Last Day of Unleavened Bread, Joel Hilliker gave a sermon, “The Will to Be Righteous.”

There were many words by Joel about the Law and obedience and sin and “God really loves His Law.” He asked, “How much do we love God’s Law?” The question should have been, “How much do we love the Lord Jesus Christ?” But PCG will never say those words. Neither will they say, “Jesus is Lord” (which has been brought up before).

He also did much quoting from books authored by HWA.

One of his many heretical statements in this sermon was when he said there was the possibility that God “knew He could lose His Son forever.” (before He came down to earth) What blasphemy! God never could have “lost His Son” because His Son, the Lord Jesus, was fully man and fully God.

Others heretical statements were when he said “God is reproducing Himself” and “God is recreating Himself in us” and “To fulfill His purpose, He (God) needs more beings like Himself.” This was a teaching from HWA and has been proven false in our two critical reviews of Mystery of the Ages. (See our PDF downloads)

The day will come when GF and all his high and mighty ministers who have hardened their hearts to the true gospel of Jesus Christ and His grace will face the judgement and “Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:11)

An excellent letter to read is: I Have Made the PCG a Thing of the Past.

–L. S.

Baptized Singles in PCG Worldwide:

April 14, 2021

A friend who just left PCG, told me there are approximately 390 baptized singles worldwide in PCG. –[name withheld]

PCG Cooks the Books:

April 14, 2021

From my experience, the reason GF wants members and their families to still register for the FOT even if they aren’t attending (i. e.,  unable to attend), is so they can “cook the books” on the number of attendees. –T. C.

Jim Cocomise Attending Again:

April 15, 2021

Jim Cocomise is attending PCG again in the Dayton-Cincinnati area but obviously not as a minister. My informant who is married to someone in PCG believes he will be moving to Florida soon. I would have never thought Cocomise would be allowed even to come back to services so soon. But I knew he would never be permitted to be a minister again. –OH

When Members Say They Prayed For the Truth:

April 15, 2021

I read your update at the end of Life at Herbert W. Armstrong College. Kieren didn’t want “the truth,” but wanted the truth to be what he believed. This is why many are still entrapped in Armstrong Church of God splinter groups, such as PCG. They can’t accept that anything other than what they believe to be “the truth” as told to them by Herbert Armstrong as true. It’s sad, really. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

Reply: What is really sad is that even if they throw out Herbert Armstrong’s teachings (which Kieren evidently did), they don’t go on to fully recover emotionally, psychologically and spiritually; and in their “intellect” they begin dabbling in other books and material that will never bring lasting peace but lead them further away from the true God of love.

PCG Focusing on Death and Martyrdom:

Update: More comments for this Bible Study have been added by ESN.

April 19, 2021

The following notes were sent to ESN:

Andrew Locher, April 9 Bible Study, spoke on the “Mark of the Beast.”

Comment: For those who don’t know who Locher is, read April 17 letter: Shameless Sermonette Exploits Members Financially which shows a true picture of Andrew Locher.

AL: (Quoting HWA) “the mark is Sunday” and “those with the mark of the beast will suffer God’s wrath, but those without the mark will be tortured and killed by man. Do you want to die at the hands of man or by God? We can be protected in a Place of Safety during the Tribulation. It requires faith and obedience to God’s Law.”

Comment: What an option! To believe that “Sunday is the mark of the beast” came from the 7th-day Adventists, which HWA plagiarized from. Also read: What About Sunday Worship? and Sabbath and Sunday (Common Arguments and Misunderstandings) to show how this is absolute falsehood!

AL: “Satan was cast down at the death of HWA. It was the transition into the Laodicean era. The 7th head, the Holy Roman Empire is here.”

Comment: This is a myth and lie spread by PCG. There is no biblical basis at all for this. Satan will be cast down (Revelation 12:9 during the Great Tribulation which hasn’t even begun yet!

AL: “We are the only ones that keep the Sabbath.”

Comment: Those tutored under HWA have heard this a thousand times. What Locher is referring to is that PCG is the only ones that keep it like it should be kept. The 7th-day Adventists and other cults would disagree.

–[name of country withheld]

GF and His Spirit of Prophecy Sermon:

Note: The following was mistakenly included in the B. S. above by Andrew Locher but was actually a sermon given by GF (the last sentence is new):

April 19, 2021

The following notes were gathered from a PCG conference in the past with Gerald Flurry giving a sermon, “The Spirit of  Prophecy”:

GF: (admitted he doesn’t emphasize certain verses or words on his programs because he) “will lose listeners.”

Comment: He definitely would lose listeners so he has to pussyfoot around in what he says.

GF: “God’s law is a law of love.”

Comment: There is no place in the Bible where it says God’s law is a “law of love.” The Law was given to the nation of Israel and not to the Church nor to the Gentiles. Read: The Law of Moses and the Grace of God.

GF: “God wants us to get it into our minds about the Father and the family.”

Comment: God is not a “family” of two (i. e., Father and Son) that man can be born into. God cannot change. Mike mentioned this in his Final Exit Letter to Craig Winters with Scripture references in Footnote #2. Jesus and the Father are One (John 1:1-4) What God wants  us to understand is about His Son who gave His life for us so we might have everlasting life.

GF: “The Laodiceans would forget everything in the Tribulation if it wasn’t for us. They will know they are being punished for their sins.”

Comment: GF continually focuses on the “Laodiceans.” I wonder if he will know he is being punished for his sins when he finds himself in the Tribulation?

GF: “If we don’t have the Law we are going to be deceived by the Devil.”

Comment: No, if we hold to the Law (have the Law), we will not understand the grace of God.

GF: “There is the possibility that we will be martyred. So what if you have to give up your life?”

Comment: GF takes a non-nonchalant view of members’ death as if to say, “Yeah, so what? No big deal.” He frightens them that they could be in the Tribulation when the Tribulation is referred to as “Jacob’s trouble”  (Jeremiah 30:7) and contrary to what he teaches, the church is not Jacob.

GF: “There is no way we can ever get in this Paradise without God teaching and correcting us.”

Comment: We are not living in O. T. times. “Teaching and correcting” by God has nothing whatsoever to do with whether we will be in Paradise. It is a matter of accepting the sacrifice of Jesus and trusting in Him for eternal life. Jesus took all our punishment (bare our sins) on Calvary. (I Peter 2:24)

GF: We will rule over all the universe and all the planets will blossom like a rose.

Comment: The Bible says not one word about us “ruling over all the universe. Also, it is the wilderness that is to blossom like a rose not the planets. (Isaiah 35:1) To say otherwise is a figment of one’s imagination.

GF: “God feeds us so much new revelation.”

Comment: No, GF thinks God is feeding him new revelation. GF’s “revelations” have contained nothing but biblical errors, false doctrines, and false prophecies! God said everything He had to say in the 66 books of the Bible.  This is a good offsite article with much info: Is God Still Giving Men Revelation Today?

GF: “The Laodiceans have no new revelation. God cuts them off because Elijah [HWA] prayed that He would.”

Comment: This view that HWA prayed and there was a 3 l/2 spiritual drought on the church (until PCG began) is total lunacy. This is covered in ESN’s reply to the letter: What is the Baptism Cut-Off Date of Laodiceans?/SF and Malachi’s Message.

GF: “The greatest woe on this earth was what happened to the Laodicean church.”

Comment: No, the greatest woe is what GF has concocted in his head for members to dwell on and which is keeping them from the freedom they could experience if they walked away from PCG.

–[name of country withheld]


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